Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Hynes signed for $ 600,00 a year, the other offer was $400,ooo a yr from the Donkeys -- What a low ball offer ! He,s a bargain at that price. Would have been a good buy for us.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379306) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379305) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

I'm halfway there with you on this one but it sounds like something a bad recruiter would say. Has someone at the club said this?

No not at all, just my opinion. For example, if Munster came on the market and we attempted to sign him but missed out. I can accept that.

What I wouldn't be able to accept is if we turned around and signed Matt Moylan after that. I would want us to make a smart recruitment decision after that.

Yep, fair enough. I get it.
 
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379358) said:
Hynes signed for $ 600,00 a year, the other offer was $400,ooo a yr from the Donkeys -- What a low ball offer ! He,s a bargain at that price. Would have been a good buy for us.

I’m not convinced. He looks good at Melbourne, but don’t they all!

I’m glad we never chased. Long live the Great Dane!
 
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379355) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379081) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379079) said:
@sly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379073) said:
Good luck to nicho Hynes getting those dollars but this time next year people will be saying what a waste of money besides Cronk how many players come out of that system and play well elsewhere

Particularly at the sharkies Moylan,Dugan they have had success with Graham and Lewis but they were established first graders when they joined anyway good luck Nicko

wrong move for Nicko he woukd have been better going to Brisbane
sharks get Hynes and McInnes good buys

Do you realise you have contradicted your own statement within the same post?

no
Hynes would be better going to Brisbane for his game as a fullback
Sharks have done well buying Hynes and McInnes good buys for them not for the players development
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.
 
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379316) said:
@goanna57 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379289) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

We have been missing out for a couple of years now I have asked the question many times still no answer

I know, it is depressing, IMHO Madge is far from an attraction, in fact I have seen stories on coaches players least like to play under, Madge features highly, also heard some players say it on FOX

I've heard a lot of players say the exact opposite.
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379352) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379316) said:
@goanna57 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379289) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

We have been missing out for a couple of years now I have asked the question many times still no answer

I know, it is depressing, IMHO Madge is far from an attraction, in fact I have seen stories on coaches players least like to play under, Madge features highly, also heard some players say it on FOX

I don't care. We've never been a marquee club. Our major success happened of the back of some brilliant kids.

Madge has been the best coach I've seen in relation to recruitment at the Tigers. To me that is his best attribute. They seem to be building a club for the future.

I wish we had signed a couple more juniors if anything. That Walsh kid and Burton are ones I'd wish we'd gotten.

Burton yes - Walsh has not proven anything that I have seen - except that he can throw forward passes and come down on peoples faces with his elbow. Looks like a "KAT" to me. Not in the same class as Burton, Walker or Suaalii.
 
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379027) said:
@izotope said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378997) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378994) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378992) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378931) said:
I'm hearing Fergo is going cheapo today...sign him up for $200k!

Would hate to see that nose in a Tigers jersey?

Surprised parra benched him was he at fault for their bad defence?

Well him and Waqa blake, but waqa blake makes nofo look like defensive player of the year

Worst part for parra is they wer on opposite sides last weekend so they had terrible defence on both edges

Funny thing - if I was one of their fans I would be feeling worse than us. I think it is now apparent that Parramatta can't win the comp. We know our team is slowly getting better, but not near a premiership force. Parramatta are supposed to be in a 'window' of opportunity to win the comp, but the shutters are closing in.
 
if they did not sign with us... we missed the signature
that is how it works we made an offer they didn't take the offer.
Forget that we pulled an offer that was only to save face.
If you are selling widgets and someone does not buy th then you miss the sale
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379490) said:
if they did not sign with us... we missed the signature
that is how it works we made an offer they didn't take the offer.
Forget that we pulled an offer that was only to save face.
If you are selling widgets and someone does not buy th then you miss the sale

Who cares, they didn't sign, move onto the next target.
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

So we pulled out because we knew we wouldn't recruit them?
Let's look at some reasons the players might use:
Poor facilities?
Poor coach?
Team management?
70 home grounds?

Our reasons might be:
Salary cap?
Player not the right position/fit?
Depth


So we use these reasons to account for our recruitment?
If we are in the market for a player and that player doesn't sign with us, that's a fail.


@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379493) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

So we pulled out because we knew we wouldn't recruit them?
Let's look at some reasons the players might use:
Poor facilities?
Poor coach?
Team management?
70 home grounds?

Our reasons might be:
Salary cap?
Player not the right position/fit?
Depth


So we use these reasons to account for our recruitment?
If we are in the market for a player and that player doesn't sign with us, that's a fail.


@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

There are many reason that a player doesn't come here that have absolutely nothing to do with the club.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379445) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379355) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379081) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379079) said:
@sly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379073) said:
Good luck to nicho Hynes getting those dollars but this time next year people will be saying what a waste of money besides Cronk how many players come out of that system and play well elsewhere

Particularly at the sharkies Moylan,Dugan they have had success with Graham and Lewis but they were established first graders when they joined anyway good luck Nicko

wrong move for Nicko he woukd have been better going to Brisbane
sharks get Hynes and McInnes good buys

Do you realise you have contradicted your own statement within the same post?

no
Hynes would be better going to Brisbane for his game as a fullback
Sharks have done well buying Hynes and McInnes good buys for them not for the players development

Ahh that’s clearer. I read it as wrong move for the sharks to get Nicko. Your clarification makes more sense thanks.
 
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379340) said:
@facepalmer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379284) said:
Heard today that the Burgess thing is still very much on the cards.

Sam?

I was told is that the Tigers are speaking as though they have already got an agreement with him to start playing for them at some point in the future. The person did not know exactly when it would occur.
 
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379304) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

Are we failing to to sign them or choosing not to pay the overs that they are seeking?

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to have an elite player signed, but there seems a strong determination to go another way.

I think You and Cochise combined are :100: correct with your reasoning.
I feel Pascoe, Madge and Hartigan are concentrating on getting what they believe are the more important aspects of the make up of our team sorted before we go spending BIG $$$ on elite players.
I feel there will be massive changes and improvements from now till the end of 2022.
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

Let’s make this clear.

Latrell has said he didn’t want to come here because he wanted to craft into his fullback position, not hold the team together and look for him to make the big decision during the game..

Although I do agree the grub didn’t want to come here regardless, which is fine.. I never wanted him.

Jai Arrow has said:

"No disrespect to the Tigers, but the proud history of Souths and obviously Wayne Bennett and the coaching staff here is second-to-none,"

He chose south’s because he had been in the origin camp multiple times with Bennet and Dimitri.

As for Addo-Carr, most likely came down to money and paying $600K a year for what 4 years? For a winger that more or less has 2 years of his playing form before he declines.. I’d prefer to bring a new kid in for less..

We know what we need and I’m glad we’re not paying overs for duds in a few years.. ITS THE FUTURE !
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379465) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379316) said:
@goanna57 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379289) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

We have been missing out for a couple of years now I have asked the question many times still no answer

I know, it is depressing, IMHO Madge is far from an attraction, in fact I have seen stories on coaches players least like to play under, Madge features highly, also heard some players say it on FOX

I've heard a lot of players say the exact opposite.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
@facepalmer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379500) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379340) said:
@facepalmer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379284) said:
Heard today that the Burgess thing is still very much on the cards.

Sam?

I was told is that the Tigers are speaking as though they have already got an agreement with him to start playing for them at some point in the future. The person did not know exactly when it would occur.

Wow big call.
 
@isaaktigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379503) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

Let’s make this clear.

Latrell has said he didn’t want to come here because he wanted to craft into his fullback position, not hold the team together and look for him to make the big decision during the game..

Although I do agree the grub didn’t want to come here regardless, which is fine.. I never wanted him.

Jai Arrow has said:

"No disrespect to the Tigers, but the proud history of Souths and obviously Wayne Bennett and the coaching staff here is second-to-none,"

He chose south’s because he had been in the origin camp multiple times with Bennet and Dimitri.

As for Addo-Carr, most likely came down to money and paying $600K a year for what 4 years? For a winger that more or less has 2 years of his playing form before he declines.. I’d prefer to bring a new kid in for less..

We know what we need and I’m glad we’re not paying overs for duds in a few years.. ITS THE FUTURE !


Yes sir
 
@isaaktigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379503) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379461) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379313) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

Let’s make this clear.

Latrell has said he didn’t want to come here because he wanted to craft into his fullback position, not hold the team together and look for him to make the big decision during the game..

Although I do agree the grub didn’t want to come here regardless, which is fine.. I never wanted him.

Jai Arrow has said:

"No disrespect to the Tigers, but the proud history of Souths and obviously Wayne Bennett and the coaching staff here is second-to-none,"

He chose south’s because he had been in the origin camp multiple times with Bennet and Dimitri.

As for Addo-Carr, most likely came down to money and paying $600K a year for what 4 years? For a winger that more or less has 2 years of his playing form before he declines.. I’d prefer to bring a new kid in for less..

We know what we need and I’m glad we’re not paying overs for duds in a few years.. ITS THE FUTURE !

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

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