Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

What’s the point of a draft of players aren’t tied to the team for their career like in other leagues. You’d just have the best rookies going to the lower clubs and getting experience before moving on at the first opportunity

 

[finnzo]

What’s the point of a draft of players aren’t tied to the team for their career like in other leagues. You’d just have the best rookies going to the lower clubs and getting experience before moving on at the first opportunity

Not if the lower clubs start winning because if it but

 

[full80]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

A draft, with certain conditions, would be a great idea.

But there's absolutely zero chance anything of this magnitude getting off the ground in time for 2022.

No thank you, last thing I want to see in the game is tanking.

I haven't given it too much thought but I have always been a fan of the idea of a draft, as it seems to even things out so much in the AFL. Is 'tanking' an issue, when times are out of the hunt (and so can guarantee good talent from the draft). Serious question.

 

[cochise]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

A draft, with certain conditions, would be a great idea.

But there's absolutely zero chance anything of this magnitude getting off the ground in time for 2022.

No thank you, last thing I want to see in the game is tanking.


I haven't given it too much thought but I have always been a fan of the idea of a draft, as it seems to even things out so much in the AFL. Is 'tanking' an issue, when times are out of the hunt (and so can guarantee good talent from the draft). Serious question.

A team that plays a tanking side at the end of the season has an advantage. I don't mind a draft in the NFL, but I follow Rugby League in a different manner, there are better ways to fix the parity of the competition than a draft.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

What’s the point of a draft of players aren’t tied to the team for their career like in other leagues. You’d just have the best rookies going to the lower clubs and getting experience before moving on at the first opportunity

Not if the lower clubs start winning because if it but

Not going to start winning with 1 or 2 rookies

 

[Odessa]

Is it true wests tigers have no brown paper bags ?

No just Gatorade on Monday Wednesday and Fridays

 

[tony soprano]

God there is some negative people on this forum.

Hard not to be when you look back at the last ten years and in particular last year.

Life's tough.

 

[tigger]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

A draft, with certain conditions, would be a great idea.

But there's absolutely zero chance anything of this magnitude getting off the ground in time for 2022.

No thank you, last thing I want to see in the game is tanking.


I haven't given it too much thought but I have always been a fan of the idea of a draft, as it seems to even things out so much in the AFL. Is 'tanking' an issue, when times are out of the hunt (and so can guarantee good talent from the draft). Serious question.

A team that plays a tanking side at the end of the season has an advantage. I don't mind a draft in the NFL, but I follow Rugby League in a different manner, there are better ways to fix the parity of the competition than a draft.

Tanking to get preferential draft picks could be a problem. But I don't think the current distribution of talent across NRL clubs is working for the good of the game. The draft has been ruled to be a restriction of trade, but I can't see a better option. What better ways did you have in mind?

 

[happy_tiger]

Is it true wests tigers have no brown paper bags ?

Clear plastic bags ...why they get caught out all the time ....

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Liddle is already mid 20s

Liddell is 24 , I think , and cook didn’t even look like a first grader until he was 26.
That’s the timeline I’m talking about .

 

[cochise]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

A draft, with certain conditions, would be a great idea.

But there's absolutely zero chance anything of this magnitude getting off the ground in time for 2022.

No thank you, last thing I want to see in the game is tanking.


I haven't given it too much thought but I have always been a fan of the idea of a draft, as it seems to even things out so much in the AFL. Is 'tanking' an issue, when times are out of the hunt (and so can guarantee good talent from the draft). Serious question.

A team that plays a tanking side at the end of the season has an advantage. I don't mind a draft in the NFL, but I follow Rugby League in a different manner, there are better ways to fix the parity of the competition than a draft.

Tanking to get preferential draft picks could be a problem. But I don't think the current distribution of talent across NRL clubs is working for the good of the game. The draft has been ruled to be a restriction of trade, but I can't see a better option. What better ways did you have in mind?

Just properly reward teams that develop their own talent, huge cap discounts to local juniors or players brought to the club by a certain age.

A draft destroy one of my favourite parts of supporting Rugby League, watching a junior coming through the ranks. Imagine robbing the Penrith guys of representing their local club, why would you do that? It would destroy the fabric of the game.

 

[happy_tiger]

God there is some negative people on this forum.

Whats to be positive about as far as the WT's are concerned

We will finish lower than 13 th next season ...that excite you ????

 

[jrtiger]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

Not interested in a draft to be honest.

thank you. will kill off clubs putting money into junior pathways and completely kill off loyalty. the draft does not work in an NRL context.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

A draft, with certain conditions, would be a great idea.

But there's absolutely zero chance anything of this magnitude getting off the ground in time for 2022.

No thank you, last thing I want to see in the game is tanking.

Well you can be negative and list various draft systems failings but two things are on notice:

- Our current NRL recruitment methodology is a failure ….. so many holes in it that it’s policing is just regarded as a joke., and
- There are many well run examples of draft systems which have had many years to evolve and improve. As a result they do provide a better solution for NRL to follow.

Whether the Players association and the Courts would allow it ….. is the big ?……

 

[cochise]

There’s is some NRL hierarchy chatter today about the importance of having more balanced rosters and have a competition where teams begin each season with genuine hope for competitiveness.

That includes the possibility of a rookie draft. So Clubs with some $$$ cap space like WT may hold off some money to see how any of this that pans out and if it impacts 2022 recruitment year.

A draft, with certain conditions, would be a great idea.

But there's absolutely zero chance anything of this magnitude getting off the ground in time for 2022.

No thank you, last thing I want to see in the game is tanking.

Well you can be negative and list various draft systems failings but two things are on notice:

- Our current NRL recruitment methodology is a failure ….. so many holes in it that it’s policing is just regarded as a joke., and
- There are many well run examples of draft systems which have had many years to evolve and improve. As a result they do provide a better solution for NRL to follow.

Whether the Players association and the Courts would allow it ….. is the big ?……

Would completely change the fabric of the game, no thank you.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

God there is some negative people on this forum.

Whats to be positive about as far as the WT's are concerned

We will finish lower than 13 th next season ...that excite you ????

Disagree …. time will tell and our recruitment between now and March as well as the effectiveness of our revised coaching structures ….. will tell the full story.
Too early to be too negative.

 

[happy_tiger]

God there is some negative people on this forum.

So it's not ok to be negative about the club ...but people neg rep .....this place is just full of hypocrites of the highest order .....gutless ......argue your point instead

 

[Deleted member 3518]

What’s the point of a draft of players aren’t tied to the team for their career like in other leagues. You’d just have the best rookies going to the lower clubs and getting experience before moving on at the first opportunity

The reason for the long contracts , is the enormous difference between extending with your existing club , and going on the open market .
Eg. the rookie max extension was 5 years 200 mil for nba recently.
And I think the max ,you could offer in free agency for that player was 4 years 150 or something like that.
That’s 50 mil being left on the table .
In baseball , the draft places have slot value , so you can only pay them between that threshold . So if for example sake , a top player doesn’t want to go to a team with the first pick they can negotiate the absolute max of that draft slot . Most teams will balk at the price and shift to whoever is the number 2 on their board , as much like the NRL , it’s really no given that that player will be worth it at any point .
For reference the best player in baseball Mike Trout went 24th in his draft , and it was pretty immediate that he was going to be a stud . the moment he played in the minors.
That’s how up in the air it all is. In the NBA , unless you’re an absolute moron/ have the worst draft crop imaginable , if your picking at the top you’ll more often than not have a key piece to your team .
My point is , the NRL would be closer to the MLB system , than any other system . Maybe the NFL . John Elway , and The Manning brothers all infamously refused to workout and go to certain teams .

 

[bathursttiger1]

4 days til Nov 1,

I hope the recruitment team have their hit list and are primed.

31 days in October. 5 days to go.

 

[weststigerman]

God there is some negative people on this forum.

So it's not ok to be negative about the club ...but people neg rep .....this place is just full of hypocrites of the highest order .....gutless ......argue your point instead

I didn’t downvote any of your posts but I don’t know why people so negative bother coming here every day.

It’s all been said already about the last 10 years. If you have no hope for the future wouldn’t you be better off doing something else rather than torturing yourselves here shooting anyone down who tries to look for something positive to look forward to next year?