Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I wonder if the board still needs to sign off every new player/ contract or whether Sheens has full autonomy here. If the latter, expect much faster movement on the signing front.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499528) said:
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499516) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499512) said:
Papali’i should be our starting prop with Big Stefano. Our best defensive forward, and has some decent plays in him ..
But Tamou will still start for no apparent reason.
Therefore, I really hope seyfarth doesn’t get lost in the shuffle. He was really good before that aloiai dog shot damaged his leg.

He is a 2nd rower, not a prop

He can play both very effectively and did so for eels this year

We need backrowers not props
 
@roar_power said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499559) said:
I wonder if the board still needs to sign off every new player/ contract or whether Sheens has full autonomy here. If the latter, expect much faster movement on the signing front.


Getting them to agree on personnel changes is a challenge apparently, but getting them in the same room at a specific time has proved impossible even with the use of technology.
 
@pablox said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499560) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499528) said:
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499516) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499512) said:
Papali’i should be our starting prop with Big Stefano. Our best defensive forward, and has some decent plays in him ..
But Tamou will still start for no apparent reason.
Therefore, I really hope seyfarth doesn’t get lost in the shuffle. He was really good before that aloiai dog shot damaged his leg.

He is a 2nd rower, not a prop

He can play both very effectively and did so for eels this year

We need backrowers not props

We got dominated through the middle all season. We definitely should be targeting a middle imo.
 
@pablox said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499560) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499528) said:
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499516) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499512) said:
Papali’i should be our starting prop with Big Stefano. Our best defensive forward, and has some decent plays in him ..
But Tamou will still start for no apparent reason.
Therefore, I really hope seyfarth doesn’t get lost in the shuffle. He was really good before that aloiai dog shot damaged his leg.

He is a 2nd rower, not a prop

He can play both very effectively and did so for eels this year

We need backrowers not props

He would play mostly second row for us for sure if we got him
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499562) said:
@pablox said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499560) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499528) said:
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499516) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499512) said:
Papali’i should be our starting prop with Big Stefano. Our best defensive forward, and has some decent plays in him ..
But Tamou will still start for no apparent reason.
Therefore, I really hope seyfarth doesn’t get lost in the shuffle. He was really good before that aloiai dog shot damaged his leg.

He is a 2nd rower, not a prop

He can play both very effectively and did so for eels this year

We need backrowers not props

We got dominated through the middle all season. We definitely should be targeting a middle imo.

A few injuries and we got forced to play Amone and other guys who are just okay and not really ready for grade. One more prop would be good

It's amazing that we can have so many holes in the roster yet only have 3 spots left. Papali'i is perfect because he can play both. Now we need a bloke who can cover centre, wing and fullback if necessary lol
 
@roar_power said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499559) said:
I wonder if the board still needs to sign off every new player/ contract or whether Sheens has full autonomy here. If the latter, expect much faster movement on the signing front.

Sheens ain't a details person.
NO WAY should he have full control or Authority like this. Des Haslier at the Dogs, etc.

Were talking expenses of 130k to 1million. They should have signoff.
But if they are not meeting regularly enough then delegate this or find people who will meet.

Tim Sheens won't read every line in a contract and he is not a lawyer. No your head coach should not put your club into red finances. But if we can't reasonably sign off on a market deadline then we have a problem.
 
Wish we could do signings roosters style. Couple of weeks ago there was noise momorovski was going to roosters. Two weeks later it’s done. No fuss. We go back and forth all off season and end up with precious little. Frustrating
 
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499571) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499564) said:
Papali’i is perfect because he can play both

Yes Yes yes

How on earth can we have 3 spots left.

Scary considering we lack in so many positions... need a backup fullback, another centre, backup winger, backup prop, second rower...
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499466) said:
I would not even give it a second thought of getting Papali'i over LL... If LL does want to accept the 550k I would say off you go and increase the offer for Papali'i to 650k..
The problem is even if we get him (unlikely IMO) Eels won't release him early as he is on small money next year and they have cap problems. He would be massive for us

Matterson's decision to take up his option has probably done us a favour. Actually I wouldn't mine both Papali and Matterson at WTs. We'd be a far stronger forward unit with them in the team.
 
@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.



@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.

Joey Johns was fuming at Newcastle for letting him go. I'll trust his judgement
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499585) said:
@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.



@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.

Joey Johns was fuming at Newcastle for letting him go. I'll trust his judgement

Madden imo is going to be a very good organising half. I don't believe it is as clear cut as some believe that Hastings will partner Brooks in the halves. Madden has a lot to offer and it wouldn't surprise me if Brooks and Madden were the halves with Hastings on the interchange.
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499585) said:
@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.



@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.

Joey Johns was fuming at Newcastle for letting him go. I'll trust his judgement

No stopping them going after him
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499586) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499585) said:
@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.



@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499271) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.

Joey Johns was fuming at Newcastle for letting him go. I'll trust his judgement

Madden imo is going to be a very good organising half. I don't believe it is as clear cut as some believe that Hastings will partner Brooks in the halves. Madden has a lot to offer and it wouldn't surprise me if Brooks and Madden were the halves with Hastings on the interchange.

They have to decide Madden or Brooks
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499582) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499571) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499564) said:
Papali’i is perfect because he can play both

Yes Yes yes

How on earth can we have 3 spots left.

Scary considering we lack in so many positions... need a backup fullback, another centre, backup winger, backup prop, second rower...

You know you don’t need backups if your starters are fit and playing consistent footy. Let’s just get a really strong starting squad before we get too stressed about next man up. That’s what development is for IMO.
 
@mighty-mouse said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499546) said:
Why on earth would papalii come to the wests tigers and ruin his career just when it’s on the up?!

Because he currently plays for Parramatta who haven't won a premiership for nearly 40 years.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499592) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499582) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499571) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499564) said:
Papali’i is perfect because he can play both

Yes Yes yes

How on earth can we have 3 spots left.

Scary considering we lack in so many positions... need a backup fullback, another centre, backup winger, backup prop, second rower...

You know you don’t need backups if your starters are fit and playing consistent footy. Let’s just get a really strong starting squad before we get too stressed about next man up. That’s what development is for IMO.

Good clubs have depth in every position - of course you need good starters but you're going to get injuries every season. When roosters or Storm get injuries they have blokes who can come in and do a good job. We have rookies who aren't ready and journeyman

With no backup fullback we will have to play someone out of position too
 

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