Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[hammertime]

Well how long do you give him to?????

Why not let him stay at Parra and go hard for RTS to play fullback and buy Jesse Ramien???

Would be great to have Moses but we are losing time.

How are we losing? Talking to Mitch doesn't stop discussions with the other two. Wiping out an option makes our position weaker, not stronger.

 

[crazycat]

…which makes his decision to axe an experienced first grade coach who did want to be here all the more ridiculous.

Yea, those games were wonderful to watch.
Poor defence, team not really trying and getting walked on.
Attack slow and sloppy.

The worst bit, it was Groundhog day. Other then Hastings occasionally helping us to a 1-2 point win and yes some horrible decisions not going our way, 2022 was a total failure.

Ill fault Sheens in punting McGuire in May. He should have brought a replacement in sooner or much later. I have zero problem letting Madge wait it out while a replacement is lined up. Let McGuire chew his losses, not let Kimmorley take his fall.

Otherwise, McGuire was going to be doing the same thing week in week out. I apologise to the forum that I did not realise this in 2021!

 

[crazycat]

We need a playmaker..theyre scarce as hens teeth..had one but he wasnt fast enuff according to coach Sheens

With Sheens and Benji at the helm do we need a Playmaker?
I think we need an organiser. I think Moses will help with this.
I also think we need to be hiring solid defenders, we have a huge gap and Defence is our real weakness.

Seriously with Benji and Sheens if we are not crossing the line then something is really wrong.

 

[clontarfkid]

With Sheens and Benji at the helm do we need a Playmaker?
I think we need an organiser. I think Moses will help with this.
I also think we need to be hiring solid defenders, we have a huge gap and Defence is our real weakness.

Seriously with Benji and Sheens if we are not crossing the line then something is really wrong.

What on field position does Sheens play these days...?
..and for that matter Benji.
Someone needs to organise the plays ON the field(that covers both our bases!)..and we dont have anyone remotely capable of that atm.Just Brooks and Douhi...
Improved defence critical after our numerous beltings last season... where coaching can make the biggest difference is defence structures..and of course attitude..neither Sheens nor Benji were renowned for being at the leading edge in this key area
So it will be an interesting year to say the least

 

[liltiger]

That worked out really good with the big 4 when Ivan put a deadline on them.

It was obvious they were just playing games with the club to shop themselves around for the best possible deal.

 

[liltiger]

The problems associated with merge originally damaged the perception of the club, but now it has become the inability to turn things around on the field under the current management. Quality players and their managers have been giving us a wide berth for years - although use us to prop up client contracts- and now there is some reason to believe there are coaches who see us as a risk that they are not prepared to take. They know better than anyone you can't be successful without a quality squad and we have just not been able to successfully rebuild in a competitive market for 11 years - even being in a much better position financially.
If Sheens can play his part in turning things around - on paper we have recruited well -job well done. If the team fails it won't because of him alone although history will show he will carry most of the burden.

If things fail this time, there can be no question. The board and CEO need to go. They need to be replaced by people who understand business and others who have played the game. I'm actually surprised once Sheens and the club mended things he wasn't offered a seat on the board.

 

[liltiger]

Re giving Moses a deadline.
Why not? We can't reach out with 1m offers to RTS or Olam or any other player while we have our cap zapped by Moses. If they both say "yes" then we would be in breech of the cap...
i.e.
Bulldogs under Haslier, Brisbane, Easts, Melbourne in 2007/2009....

Well hey I guess if other fish bite we should just sign them, aim for a grand final and stuff the books. What were going to get the spoon?

Not necessarily, If both agree we sign who we want and tell the other sorry thanks but too late.

 

[Kelce68]

Again sacked the coach because;
A poor performance.
B to get Ciraldo as he said he would come if Fadge was gone.
If u can’t see that Fadge was going nowhere, then there’s no help for you.

Why do you keep referring to madge as 'fadge'?

Does changing a single letter do a great job of relaying that fact that you didn't like him as a coach?

Because from this end it does sfa.

 

[liltiger]

Why does every Manly coach have a gruff voice?
Siebold
Hasler
Toovey

Because they are the biggest providers of the tpas we collect from the Glen Morrisson toilet block gloryhole.

 

[Alltheway]

Why do you keep referring to madge as 'fadge'?

Does changing a single letter do a great job of relaying that fact that you didn't like him as a coach?

Because from this end it does sfa.

Because of his ineptitude to coach! Making Luciano and liddle play 80 minutes is just the start ti how bad he is. Look at how the brown Staines use api, some meathead hooker on for 20min then api on. No wasting his talents on crap work. Look at how payten is using Luciano. Let’s hope the new coaching team no how to coach because the last one had no idea!!

 

[liltiger]

All his decisions, so why do you think he wont need to take responsibly of the results?

Only leeway he would be given is because of the years of mismanagement, poor recruitment and poor coaching before him. Excluding Maguire and Cleary who both had the squads available to them playing above their ability.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Well how long do you give him to?????

Why not let him stay at Parra and go hard for RTS to play fullback and buy Jesse Ramien???

Would be great to have Moses but we are losing time.

jesse ramien on the cards irrespective of Mitch or Brooks signing in 2024, we have the cash for that

 

[Telltails]

Because of his ineptitude to coach! Making Luciano and liddle play 80 minutes is just the start ti how bad he is. Look at how the brown Staines use api, some meathead hooker on for 20min then api on. No wasting his talents on crap work. Look at how payten is using Luciano. Let’s hope the new coaching team no how to coach because the last one had no idea!!

You are comparing the use of players at clubs with a wealth of talent in numerous positions not even close to what we have had to work with in recent times if ever. LL got a 750k contract to his credit after playing at WTs he must have been doing something right to earn it.

 

[Alltheway]

He doesn't mind backing himself.
You are comparing the use of players at clubs with a wealth of talent in numerous positions not even close to what we have had to work with in recent times if ever. LL got a 750k contract to his credit after playing at WTs he must have been doing something right to earn it.

Not 80 minutes 60, that’s why he’s playing better. Not because of his previous coach, me was more of a hindrance.

 

[Kelce68]

Because of his ineptitude to coach! Making Luciano and liddle play 80 minutes is just the start ti how bad he is. Look at how the brown Staines use api, some meathead hooker on for 20min then api on. No wasting his talents on crap work. Look at how payten is using Luciano. Let’s hope the new coaching team no how to coach because the last one had no idea!!

Yeh, but you could still have the same opinion and call him Madge.

Adding the 'f' in does nothing.

Like..... nothing at all.

 

[Tito Santana]

We need a playmaker..theyre scarce as hens teeth..had one but he wasnt fast enuff according to coach Sheens

Agreed. So make a deadline as to when you plan to give him to. His signing or non signing has a knock on effect to how we resource other positions. I wouldn’t be letting him drag on any further. I’m surprised Douhei resigned with so much uncertainty about Moses. Brave really. I would have left to go elsewhere. Increase my pay on the basis Moses falls through the Tigers are rooted for a 5/8.

I make sense.

 

[cktiger]

Why do you keep referring to madge as 'fadge'?

Does changing a single letter do a great job of relaying that fact that you didn't like him as a coach?

Because from this end it does sfa.

He does it because he loves Feenius. 🤣🤣🤣

 

[sleeve]

Agreed. So make a deadline as to when you plan to give him to. His signing or non signing has a knock on effect to how we resource other positions. I wouldn’t be letting him drag on any further. I’m surprised Douhei resigned with so much uncertainty about Moses. Brave really. I would have left to go elsewhere. Increase my pay on the basis Moses falls through the Tigers are rooted for a 5/8.

I make sense.

Api will be the playmaker, and Paps and Bateman will create more space on the edges.Brooks and AD just have to polish their passing and kicking games for us to improve. I would doubt AD hasn't tested the market, but he's on FB money of $650,000 and i don't think he had many takers.

 

[innsaneink]

Brad Arthur interviewed before the trial game said he asked Mitch if was staying in front of everyone & he didn’t give him an answer .

Playing with the media

 

[Telltails]

Not 80 minutes 60, that’s why he’s playing better. Not because of his previous coach, me was more of a hindrance.

I don't think he is playing any better he is just playing with a better squad of players. Payten has a gun pack and can afford to play him 60 minutes if he so chooses. We could hardly field a pack that was FG standard by the the time LL was moved on. Anyway you made it very clear where you stand with Maguire and his role as coach, but clearly if Sheens backed the squad Maguire had to work with, he wouldn't have been so active in trying to overhaul it. Here is hoping for a much better 2023.