Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jadtiger]

So when do we buy players?

When they are at their peak, like Moses Mbye? Anyone remember how he was "ripping it up" in a Bulldogs side coming dead set last, him getting 750k there and then 750k HERE! (sure subsidised for 1 year) then the form dip. We buy players at the peak, they will go down a little OR a lot. Buying at the peak though is top $$$. BJ Leulia, Russell Packer comes to mind as well.

When they are at the bottom? I.e. a player sucks and we take them here and turn them into a good player. Sure they are "cheap" at this stage. The main player that comes to mind is Braith Anasta when we signed him, although he wasn't at the "suck eggs" stage of his career.

The best time to buy IMHO is when we find a player who is "mid" performance and we identify a weakness/point of improvement that we can coach in. I.e. Gareth Ellis, very strong forward but did not pass. Sheens coached in passing and scoring over the try line. BOOM!

Gareth Ellis was not "mid performance" when he came here,in tests against Australia he was the best forward on the field despite the score and that was before he arrived.

 

[rugbygoated]

Adam Doueihi's next club will surely be Manly.

Good on him. He's an embarrassing footballer, but my respect for him has gone up now for saying this. Also good to see earlier in the year Luai going against that sexually explicit mural in the city

 

[Tom Shines]

So when do we buy players?

When they are at their peak, like Moses Mbye? Anyone remember how he was "ripping it up" in a Bulldogs side coming dead set last, him getting 750k there and then 750k HERE! (sure subsidised for 1 year) then the form dip. We buy players at the peak, they will go down a little OR a lot. Buying at the peak though is top $$$. BJ Leulia, Russell Packer comes to mind as well.

When they are at the bottom? I.e. a player sucks and we take them here and turn them into a good player. Sure they are "cheap" at this stage. The main player that comes to mind is Braith Anasta when we signed him, although he wasn't at the "suck eggs" stage of his career.

The best time to buy IMHO is when we find a player who is "mid" performance and we identify a weakness/point of improvement that we can coach in. I.e. Gareth Ellis, very strong forward but did not pass. Sheens coached in passing and scoring over the try line. BOOM!

I’ll say again when you shouldn’t be buying them… when they have peaked already and are on the decline … like Olam…( Josh Reynolds deal also comes to mind )

if you do buy him for THREE more years … he better be cheap because you are taking a risk..

Mbye was a terrible deal… most people thought that at the time …don’t remember a lot saying it was a good deal for the Tigers …

 

[rugbygoated]

Interesting words from Jayden

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

Interesting words from Jayden

Benji & Robbie used to say similar things. He’s a kid who grew up in Wollongong it’s understandable he feels that way. He’s here & he came to pre season training 3 weeks earlier than he needed to. He’s committed

 

[Asu Kepaoa's #1 Fan]

Interesting words from Jayden

Fair enough. The guy is obviously loyal to them. But when a first grade halves opportunity comes knocking, you do not say no, especially when Benji is the one knocking.

 

[rugbygoated]

Benji & Robbie used to say similar things. He’s a kid who grew up in Wollongong it’s understandable he feels that way. He’s here & he came to pre season training 3 weeks earlier than he needed to. He’s committed

I know. I don't think there is much to it. Just a discussion point. He will be fully committed I'm sure but I'm sure in the back of his mind the "who's to know where my career is going to end up" statement could refer to instability at the Tigers. I doubt if he joined the Storm or Broncos he'd say that

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

Adam Doueihi's next club will surely be Manly.

He’s coming across as a massive hypocrite here & this is coming from someone who is religious.

 

[Todd Packer]

Here’s a metaphor. A fish rots from the head down.

Not a metaphor and factually incorrect.
The guts of a fish rot first.
It's an incorrect proverb that started as a fish stinks from the head down

 

[Leck]

Not a metaphor and factually incorrect.
The guts of a fish rot first.

We all know that. But it is a metaphor, it refers to how poor management will rot any organisation.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

He did some great things in that game but ultimately we won that day, so for all the flashy brilliance, the lack of consistency didn’t get the job done.

Made Blore look pedestrian..........twice!

 

[Todd Packer]

We all know that. But it is a metaphor, it refers to how poor management will rot any organisation.

If you said "Wests are a fish rotting from the head down", that's a metaphor.
By itself it isn't.
For homework I want you to give me 20 examples of a metaphor by end of school tomorrow.

 

[crazycat]

Why would we pay $550k (as reported) for a 14?

Pay Sullivan $550k as a 14 is a Horrible decision.

That said, yea there are players who I would hire in a second to play 14.
Craig Wing, later in his career was a ballistic 14 and got an Origin selection based off his versatility and try scoring ability at 14.
Tabilo Fistio... ok the Hammer owned the role at the Cowboys. Versatile gun, could rip up the opposition when they were set up against the normal Cowboy squad.
Ben Barba did a similar role at the Bulldogs.

Any of those 3, in their respective primes - Barba's idiocracy would be awesome as 14.

why 14 and not 1 or a center? Some players have lower energy, but very fast movers. Bringing them at 14 means the opposition is a little more tired and they just exploit that. Also good for a versatile player who isn't the best defender as they can jump into the existing squad for injuries and just mix stuff up.

We really don't have a player like this. The closest would be an in form Doueihi or AJ Kepaoa. Maybe Sullivan can do this, but from what I have seen he isn't that kind of player. Fainu is a possibility.

 

[Leck]

If you said "Wests are a fish rotting from the head down", that's a metaphor.
By itself it isn't.
For homework I want you to give me 20 examples of a metaphor by end of school tomorrow.

My bad teach, you're right.

 

[Spartan117]

I think we should spend less time telling other clubs which of our juniors will be the stars of the NRL in future

 

[Snidest 0]

Made Blore look pedestrian..........twice!

Because Blore is pedestrian with his lateral defence

 

[Tucker]

Made Blore look pedestrian..........twice!

Is that good?

 

[hank37w]

He did some great things in that game but ultimately we won that day, so for all the flashy brilliance, the lack of consistency didn’t get the job done.

Haven't really seen him play all that much apart from that game but thought he was a real game changer and we looked a bit shaky from the time he came on.

I think he only played a bit over half the game and scored the majority of St.Georges points with 2 converted tries, so he came pretty close to pulling it off. I have to say I was pretty impressed but at the time I thought he came across as a little smart arse, but since then have seen a much humbler side to him.

 

[KingRobbie]

Made Blore look pedestrian..........twice!

Pretty sure it was Papali’i.

 

[Todd Packer]

He's gonna end up giving the club a reason to void his contract .