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Telling TDS to wait 3-4 years to get a starting spot when he could walk straight into a first grade team right now and call it selfish for him wanting to leave after his contract EXPIRES just isn’t fair and completely biased for us fans to think that.

TDS has made it very clear…. he’s happy for the next 18 months to work under Api and grow into the position then hopefully take over in 2027 when API’s contact expires at 34-35.

Don’t see a problem with that… the kid wants to stay but wants a chance to play. The club coming first want him as the starting 9 and he still made it clear he prefers stay with us if we can give him the chance to play in 2027. Absolutely crazy for us to blame Tallyn or shame him for wanting that.

The last few games he has played he looked excellent and very comfortable within the top grade, so much so that up to 4 clubs are already circling trying to get him NOW and more clubs are expected to come to the party. I think it’s quite obvious in 2027 he’ll be ready to be a starting 9 in the NRL. If I’m being honest, he’s ready now for the NRL.

So I really hope us as fans don’t blame TDS for this request as it’s completely reasonable, we as a club made the decision to prioritise Api. I love Api and I personally think he’s been our best signing this last decade, but he’ll also be 34. Picking a 34 year old to try squeeze 1-2 more years of him instead of a junior who will look more than ready to take over in 2027 that could be our long term option for the next 15 years makes me scratch my head.

He’s willing to wait 1.5 years instead of going the Galvin route and forcing himself out as he knows he could get a starting spot next week at an NRL club. Expecting him to wait longer than the 18 months and risk himself getting injured and derailing his career doesn’t make sense for himself.

I think how Tallyn has handled this is perfect - he has made it clear he wants to stay and wants a chance to play allowing the club to make a decision between himself or Api and it seems like we made the wrong one if you ask me.
Mate …. It’s 2025 . How is this reasonable ? Serious question? Why is this decision being made now ?
And also why wouldn’t he want api around to understudy him … also provide competition?
Also what player is guaranteed a spot in any team when they’re not a marquee player ? The best any club can and should offer a player like TDS is first crack .
So I don’t get why if he truely wants to stay , that he’s not willing to compete for the spot.
I think that’s bullshit because he doesn’t want to get tarred with the Galvin betrayer label …
He’s got IMO the best number 9 in the comp not playing for the storm to learn off , and he wants it all tomorrow .
I also think his defence is shithouse 1 on 1 , way worse than APIs , and he doesn’t have anywhere near the same line speed , ruck control , ruck manipulation. He shoots out quick , and he’s good at attacking markers close to the line . His service is crisp as well . I do not think he’s at a level where we would and should consider picking him over api at 32 . If you’re talking in 2 years time , you’d want to hope he’s surpassed him . But I don’t believe that’s The issue .
IMO this is more to do with Hayward than api , because that kid is coming fast . If Tallyn wasn’t here , he’d already have been tried in KOE .
I think Tallyn is looking over his shoulder at Hayward .. and striking whilst the iron is hot making the tigers really , make the choice between him and Hayward and framing it as Api.
Because I think IMO Hayward is a better footy player potentially than Tallyn , and more importantly is far more similar to Api than TDS. TDS is Damien Cook …. Hayward is Api , Farah etc .
It smells like bullshit to me ..
 
Mate …. It’s 2025 . How is this reasonable ? Serious question? Why is this decision being made now ?
And also why wouldn’t he want api around to understudy him … also provide competition?
Also what player is guaranteed a spot in any team when they’re not a marquee player ? The best any club can and should offer a player like TDS is first crack .
So I don’t get why if he truely wants to stay , that he’s not willing to compete for the spot.
I think that’s bullshit because he doesn’t want to get tarred with the Galvin betrayer label …
He’s got IMO the best number 9 in the comp not playing for the storm to learn off , and he wants it all tomorrow .
I also think his defence is shithouse 1 on 1 , way worse than APIs , and he doesn’t have anywhere near the same line speed , ruck control , ruck manipulation. He shoots out quick , and he’s good at attacking markers close to the line . His service is crisp as well . I do not think he’s at a level where we would and should consider picking him over api at 32 . If you’re talking in 2 years time , you’d want to hope he’s surpassed him . But I don’t believe that’s The issue .
IMO this is more to do with Hayward than api , because that kid is coming fast . If Tallyn wasn’t here , he’d already have been tried in KOE .
I think Tallyn is looking over his shoulder at Hayward .. and striking whilst the iron is hot making the tigers really , make the choice between him and Hayward and framing it as Api.
Because I think IMO Hayward is a better footy player potentially than Tallyn , and more importantly is far more similar to Api than TDS. TDS is Damien Cook …. Hayward is Api , Farah etc .
It smells like bullshit to me ..
Interesting post tbh.

There's probably some underlying issues.
I think what you say + some promises that haven't been kept.
 
I love the ‘improvement’ line…
Like it’s not a bare minimum after
We bought the most successful half in the last 4 years!! Plus a bunch of other decent players, our best juniors have another year behind them and we got rid of some dead wood.
Coming off 3 spoons no less

Slight improvement is the very minimum we should be seeing on the personnel alone.
It’s not an achievement or something we should be bragging about
What do you do though man ? They should have won every one of the last 4 matches . In fact probably 7 or 8 of all our losses . The team is a good footy team . They just don’t know how to win … it’s beyond frustrating to watch …
 
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They keep saying he wants to stay.

I hope we're letting him see what's out there and we can at least try and keep him.
Hopefully we haven't let him down.

Either way I'll be sad to see him leave.
He looks a really good player.
no reason why he can't come back when Api retires
 
He was ! . He never used to wrap players with his arms and dogged contact . Which made zero sense when you saw how big the guy was . Now he’s starting to understand how big he is , he’s making tackles . And sometimes whacking blokes .
I was his biggest critic , and I’m rapped that he’s figured out how to use his shoulders and trust them .
But he was beyond shit . Lost us many games because of it.
Masons not afraid to get his body in the way . He’s just a kid getting run over by men . His intent is for all to see . AD was not Mason .
Hopefully adam can give kpp some tips on using the shoulder tho it looks like he wont be here
 
Interesting post tbh.

There's probably some underlying issues.
I think what you say + some promises that haven't been kept.
I think he’s miles of base.
Miles.
This has nothing to do with football, mentorship, wanting it all now etc.
Tallyn has proven and stated time and again that he doesn’t think this way…at least not until very recently.
Something else has happened.
 
Long bow to draw for a similarity
Bit different being able to do everything but play the game
- to being in Jail I would have thought?

Edit - I like how it’s overlooked that he stabbed someone…
All the highround heros here, I’d have thought that might come up.
Sure. If you say so. Still plausible, therefore, still worthy of discussion.

Re; edit - I haven't seen anyone overlook anything. The assumption once someone has served their sentence is that they have paid their penance to society.

Though I'm sure there's plenty of pearl clutchers floating around that would take issue. They're irrelevant.
 
I think he’s miles of base.
Miles.
This has nothing to do with football, mentorship, wanting it all now etc.
Tallyn has proven and stated time and again that he doesn’t think this way…at least not until very recently.
Something else has happened.
Yeah, something going on for sure.

To me, it feels like, he was promised something and it hasn't been delivered.

He and Api are both contracted until the end of 2026. Maybe he thought he'd put the work in to take over after that and now all this Api extension talks has come to light.

In an ideal world we can keep both.
I really want that to happen.

I'd be happy to give Api + 1 year then a job after footy with him being aware that we're building TDS to be the #1 hooker

It's disheartening for sure that we'll be losing another serious talent, one that I thought had a serious future at our club.
 
Yeah, something going on for sure.

To me, it feels like, he was promised something and it hasn't been delivered.

He and Api are both contracted until the end of 2026. Maybe he thought he'd put the work in to take over after that and now all this Api extension talks has come to light.

In an ideal world we can keep both.
I really want that to happen.

I'd be happy to give Api + 1 year then a job after footy with him being aware that we're building TDS to be the #1 hooker

It's disheartening for sure that we'll be losing another serious talent, one that I thought had a serious future at our club.
sheensy made a lot of empty promises to the HM kids . didn’t stay long enough to fulfill them , tds is probably one of them
 
Anyway, moving on from TDS.

We need to be active in the player market.
I know they like the waiting game.
So did Pascoe.

We need;
- figure out who of our off contract lads we may be wanting to keep
- who we're extending [Starford, Api, etx]
- improve our depth +
- bring in further players to benefit our squad

I'm hoping Taylan May comes out strong this weekend as I've got high hopes for him, filling our starting centre role.

KPP in is also an upgrade.

But it can't stop there.
 
Yeah, something going on for sure.

To me, it feels like, he was promised something and it hasn't been delivered.

He and Api are both contracted until the end of 2026. Maybe he thought he'd put the work in to take over after that and now all this Api extension talks has come to light.

In an ideal world we can keep both.
I really want that to happen.

I'd be happy to give Api + 1 year then a job after footy with him being aware that we're building TDS to be the #1 hooker

It's disheartening for sure that we'll be losing another serious talent, one that I thought had a serious future at our club.
100% agree and have been saying so for a while now.
This could have been managed to work.
For Tallyn to take such a hardline stance, I.e. it’s him or me, gives me a bad feeling that there’s a freight train coming straight at this club and it might cost us more names yet.
 
100% agree and have been saying so for a while now.
This could have been managed to work.
For Tallyn to take such a hardline stance, I.e. it’s him or me, gives me a bad feeling that there’s a freight train coming straight at this club and it might cost us more names yet.
I've seen a few group photos 📸

It's Jordan Miller + Galvin + TDS & the Lualilii bros.

Two gone already and one appears likely the same way.

More names, u say.....
 
Yeah, something going on for sure.

To me, it feels like, he was promised something and it hasn't been delivered.

He and Api are both contracted until the end of 2026. Maybe he thought he'd put the work in to take over after that and now all this Api extension talks has come to light.

In an ideal world we can keep both.
I really want that to happen.

I'd be happy to give Api + 1 year then a job after footy with him being aware that we're building TDS to be the #1 hooker

It's disheartening for sure that we'll be losing another serious talent, one that I thought had a serious future at our club.
I dunno maybe . Maybe api said he was going to move on at the end of this contract , and now he doesn’t want to .
I still think the rapid rise of Hayward is a variable . Even if it’s to offer an alternate path should TDS want to go .
His management arnt stupid though . Another year , and now TDS is starting 9 in KOE , and in and out of first grade either starting or off the bench . By that point Hayward would be well and rely entrenched in the KOE team , and heaping pressure on TDS / turning heads .
The kid is rising and rising fast. .His arrivsl
In Jersey flegg along with the sacking of thier coaching staff , has led to a rapid form reversal in that team , and he’s front and centre in everything that’s good about them at the moment .
 

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