Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Do you think they're 'letting him walk'?

My understanding is that they want him to stay and he wants to stay, but he will not continue to wait long enough for the transition from Api.

I don't care what anyone says, someone willing to walk away from his childhood club, where he wants to stay and who want to keep him because he's being asked to play a smaller role a little longer, to the betterment of both his own experience and the club itself, only to then almost be guaranteed the starting role a year later in 2028 or otherwise.... is the wrong decision by Tallyn.

Like, almost laughably bad.

He'll be 22 at the start of the 2028 season. Twenty-two.

And, if he's good enough, he should be backing himself to win the hooking role of Api earlier.

It's just woeful, woeful stuff from the TDS camp in my opinion. It's non-sensical and really poor advice from Tartak if he's recommending a change.

There HAS to be more to it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think there's every chance we sound out Manase following his sentence and that we see him on a T and T in 27 alongside his brothers. He's eligible for parole in October next year, will be only 28 years old for the 2027 season, hasn't had the wear and tear of week in week out first grade for the past 6 years and originally, was that good that he forced Api out of Manly.

Maybe Tallyn sees the writing on the wall competing with Manase, Haywood and Api, the same way that many are suspecting Galvin did with Latu. Maybe its a case of the HM crew from back in the day being a little too egoist for their own good.

Who knows.

Telling TDS to wait 3-4 years to get a starting spot when he could walk straight into a first grade team right now and call it selfish for him wanting to leave after his contract EXPIRES just isn’t fair and completely biased for us fans to think that.

TDS has made it very clear…. he’s happy for the next 18 months to work under Api and grow into the position then hopefully take over in 2027 when API’s contact expires at 34-35.

Don’t see a problem with that… the kid wants to stay but wants a chance to play. The club coming first want him as the starting 9 and he still made it clear he prefers stay with us if we can give him the chance to play in 2027. Absolutely crazy for us to blame Tallyn or shame him for wanting that.

The last few games he has played he looked excellent and very comfortable within the top grade, so much so that up to 4 clubs are already circling trying to get him NOW and more clubs are expected to come to the party. I think it’s quite obvious in 2027 he’ll be ready to be a starting 9 in the NRL. If I’m being honest, he’s ready now for the NRL.

So I really hope us as fans don’t blame TDS for this request as it’s completely reasonable, we as a club made the decision to prioritise Api. I love Api and I personally think he’s been our best signing this last decade, but he’ll also be 34. Picking a 34 year old to try squeeze 1-2 more years of him instead of a junior who will look more than ready to take over in 2027 that could be our long term option for the next 15 years makes me scratch my head.

He’s willing to wait 1.5 years instead of going the Galvin route and forcing himself out as he knows he could get a starting spot next week at an NRL club. Expecting him to wait longer than the 18 months and risk himself getting injured and derailing his career doesn’t make sense for himself.

I think how Tallyn has handled this is perfect - he has made it clear he wants to stay and wants a chance to play allowing the club to make a decision between himself or Api and it seems like we made the wrong one if you ask me.
 
Cut the BS.
This kid is not tanking or pouting or creating division.
Such a pathetic statement lol..
I was sitting in the front row right behind where Tallyn was constantly warming up last Friday night and I can assure everyone he was like a caged Tiger, full of energy and desperate to get on the field.
There are no signs of any disconnect between he and any of our other players, in fact he and Terrell look extremely tight.
He is nothing like Galvin, he bleeds for our club and he’s one we should be desperately trying to keep.
 
I was sitting in the front row right behind where Tallyn was constantly warming up last Friday night and I can assure everyone he was like a caged Tiger, full of energy and desperate to get on the field.
There are no signs of any disconnect between he and any of our other players, in fact he and Terrell look extremely tight.
He is nothing like Galvin, he bleeds for our club and he’s one we should be desperately trying to keep.
yeah , i don’t buy any of the crap , he loves being here and he wants to stay . he’s supported the club growing up , but not being given the role in 2027 it’s fair enough to see what’s out there. more disappointed with the club not being able to convince him he’ll still be in our plans at that time whilst also retaining API . even his manager said it’s not a LG situation .
 
It's true we aren't in the 8 and that is what we would hope after the last decade (winning is just unrealistic at this point) but as someone pointed out most losses have been by 4 points. Think back to the last few years and there is no doubt there is improvement. While not want I would really like it does give me hope.
We bought one of the best halves in the world as well as other experienced talent to win these types of games.
 
Telling TDS to wait 3-4 years to get a starting spot when he could walk straight into a first grade team right now and call it selfish for him wanting to leave after his contract EXPIRES just isn’t fair and completely biased for us fans to think that.

TDS has made it very clear…. he’s happy for the next 18 months to work under Api and grow into the position then hopefully take over in 2027 when API’s contact expires at 34-35.

Don’t see a problem with that… the kid wants to stay but wants a chance to play. The club coming first want him as the starting 9 and he still made it clear he prefers stay with us if we can give him the chance to play in 2027. Absolutely crazy for us to blame Tallyn or shame him for wanting that.

The last few games he has played he looked excellent and very comfortable within the top grade, so much so that up to 4 clubs are already circling trying to get him NOW and more clubs are expected to come to the party. I think it’s quite obvious in 2027 he’ll be ready to be a starting 9 in the NRL. If I’m being honest, he’s ready now for the NRL.

So I really hope us as fans don’t blame TDS for this request as it’s completely reasonable, we as a club made the decision to prioritise Api. I love Api and I personally think he’s been our best signing this last decade, but he’ll also be 34. Picking a 34 year old to try squeeze 1-2 more years of him instead of a junior who will look more than ready to take over in 2027 that could be our long term option for the next 15 years makes me scratch my head.

He’s willing to wait 1.5 years instead of going the Galvin route and forcing himself out as he knows he could get a starting spot next week at an NRL club. Expecting him to wait longer than the 18 months and risk himself getting injured and derailing his career doesn’t make sense for himself.

I think how Tallyn has handled this is perfect - he has made it clear he wants to stay and wants a chance to play allowing the club to make a decision between himself or Api and it seems like we made the wrong one if you ask me.
why then is the club so solid on Api, 2027 change over sounded the smartest thing to do . What happened ? tick tick,wow , that puts another spin on the gossip
 
We bought one of the best halves in the world as well as other experienced talent to win these types of games.
I love the ‘improvement’ line…
Like it’s not a bare minimum after
We bought the most successful half in the last 4 years!! Plus a bunch of other decent players, our best juniors have another year behind them and we got rid of some dead wood.
Coming off 3 spoons no less

Slight improvement is the very minimum we should be seeing on the personnel alone.
It’s not an achievement or something we should be bragging about
 
Apparently Doueihi was the worst defender people had seen too.
He was ! . He never used to wrap players with his arms and dogged contact . Which made zero sense when you saw how big the guy was . Now he’s starting to understand how big he is , he’s making tackles . And sometimes whacking blokes .
I was his biggest critic , and I’m rapped that he’s figured out how to use his shoulders and trust them .
But he was beyond shit . Lost us many games because of it.
Masons not afraid to get his body in the way . He’s just a kid getting run over by men . His intent is for all to see . AD was not Mason .
 
Telling TDS to wait 3-4 years to get a starting spot when he could walk straight into a first grade team right now and call it selfish for him wanting to leave after his contract EXPIRES just isn’t fair and completely biased for us fans to think that.

TDS has made it very clear…. he’s happy for the next 18 months to work under Api and grow into the position then hopefully take over in 2027 when API’s contact expires at 34-35.

Don’t see a problem with that… the kid wants to stay but wants a chance to play. The club coming first want him as the starting 9 and he still made it clear he prefers stay with us if we can give him the chance to play in 2027. Absolutely crazy for us to blame Tallyn or shame him for wanting that.

The last few games he has played he looked excellent and very comfortable within the top grade, so much so that up to 4 clubs are already circling trying to get him NOW and more clubs are expected to come to the party. I think it’s quite obvious in 2027 he’ll be ready to be a starting 9 in the NRL. If I’m being honest, he’s ready now for the NRL.

So I really hope us as fans don’t blame TDS for this request as it’s completely reasonable, we as a club made the decision to prioritise Api. I love Api and I personally think he’s been our best signing this last decade, but he’ll also be 34. Picking a 34 year old to try squeeze 1-2 more years of him instead of a junior who will look more than ready to take over in 2027 that could be our long term option for the next 15 years makes me scratch my head.

He’s willing to wait 1.5 years instead of going the Galvin route and forcing himself out as he knows he could get a starting spot next week at an NRL club. Expecting him to wait longer than the 18 months and risk himself getting injured and derailing his career doesn’t make sense for himself.

I think how Tallyn has handled this is perfect - he has made it clear he wants to stay and wants a chance to play allowing the club to make a decision between himself or Api and it seems like we made the wrong one if you ask me.
I think there's a way we can make this work.

Penrith did this, with Mitch Kenny coming through.

Api would play in the 9 jersey but from the bench.
Love to see a way where we can bring this in down the track with TDS.

I'm still hopeful a deal can be done where we keep both.
 
I love the ‘improvement’ line…
Like it’s not a bare minimum after
We bought the most successful half in the last 4 years!! Plus a bunch of other decent players, our best juniors have another year behind them and we got rid of some dead wood.
Coming off 3 spoons no less

Slight improvement is the very minimum we should be seeing on the personnel alone.
It’s not an achievement or something we should be bragging about
Especially in this competition.
Penrith have come back to the field and although some good chasers have emerged, the premiership is open wider than I’ve seen in a long long time and pretty much every side can lose on any given weekend.
That said, we still don’t win real often.
 
I think there's a way we can make this work.

Penrith did this, with Mitch Kenny coming through.

Api would play in the 9 jersey but from the bench.
Love to see a way where we can bring this in down the track with TDS.

I'm still hopeful a deal can be done where we keep both.
I think that time has passed mate.
Whatever happened external to footy has made the situation untenable.
 
So 4 clubs are currently sniffing around with more expected to enquire. Would Api get the same amount of attention? Pretty doubtful. Other clubs don’t prioritise players in their mid 30’s over 20 year olds. So why are we?
did you forget cowboys asked us if they could have api for next year like a month ago

Perth bears have already said they’d be interested
 
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