Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[The Chad]

The only thing I’ll say is… did you watch the Dogs v Penrith game ?

The improvement in a lot of those Dogs players is remarkable …. And I can only put that down to the coaching staff…

I mean …Connor Tracey is 29 years old ! He is now one of the top 3 FBs going around this season … where the hell did that come from ?

As much as it pains me because I hate them ..but I’ll say that Dogs team is winning a premiership soon …might be this year…

Connor Tracey would be just like all the rest of our guys here if he was at the Tigers.

Difference is about 2-3 seasons of squad development.

Gus has been building this for 4 years since leaving the Warriors. And they are not complete yet.

Richo & Benji are in year 2 (Richo being the important factor before I hear how Benji has overseen 4006 wooden spoons already).

I'm pretty confident we will be better again next season. Remember, the Dogs are only a couple of years removed from fighting us for the spoon themselves.

 

[The Chad]

I don’t agree … the best are still guys like Martin, Kikau and Olakawatu who are all about the aggression

If our middles dominated the field more, the likes of KPP & Fifita could pile on those big hits as well.

Our issue tends to stem from constantly being in retreat.

 

[Le Tiger]

Connor Tracey would be just like all the rest of our guys here if he was at the Tigers.

Difference is about 2-3 seasons of squad development.

Gus has been building this for 4 years since leaving the Warriors. And they are not complete yet.

Richo & Benji are in year 2 (Richo being the important factor before I hear how Benji has overseen 4006 wooden spoons already).

I'm pretty confident we will be better again next season. Remember, the Dogs are only a couple of years removed from fighting us for the spoon themselves.

I think Bulldogs are about 2 years ahead of us in their rebuild.

Biggest change for them has been culture and buy in.

Anyone that didn't buy in has left.

We are on the same journey, difference is we don't have the money that they do to expedite the process.

HBG needs to pull their finger out or sell the club to the highest bidder.

 

[Tom Shines]

If our middles dominated the field more, the likes of KPP & Fifita could pile on those big hits as well.

Our issue tends to stem from constantly being in retreat.

Personally I would prefer them to persevere with Sam F … he is still only 21 and played less than 50 games …. It’s harder to find edges then middles

I think people have some short memories of how he played last year … obviously there is some second year syndrome this season … no doubt because he has been targeted on the opposition game plans and tip sheets each week given the lack of other threats in the team …

To my naked eye he appears a bit lighter this year …maybe they asked him to drop some weight and it’s had a negative impact on his form ?

 

[The Chad]

I think Bulldogs are about 2 years ahead of us in their rebuild.

Biggest change for them has been culture and buy in.

Anyone that didn't buy in has left.

We are on the same journey, difference is we don't have the money that they do to expedite the process.

HBG needs to pull their finger out or sell the club to the highest bidder.

That might be a bit harsh. We brought in Luai. The Dogs started with Burton & a bunch of guys. Both May's are in. Turuva is in. It's not like we are not in the marketplace. We just are not as far down the road.

 

[Vicious]

The only thing I’ll say is… did you watch the Dogs v Penrith game ?

The improvement in a lot of those Dogs players is remarkable …. And I can only put that down to the coaching staff…

I mean …Connor Tracey is 29 years old ! He is now one of the top 3 FBs going around this season … where the hell did that come from ?

As much as it pains me because I hate them ..but I’ll say that Dogs team is winning a premiership soon …might be this year…

Smart recruitment.
Connor Tracey has always been a high energy, all action player with plenty of speed and toughness. He was a regular standout whenever called up to NRL for the Sharks and consistently dominated NSW Cup.
This is why myself and quite a few others regularly bang on about looking closely at recruiting NSW Cuo or Qld Cup standouts.
Jacob Preston another prime example, he was killing it in NSW Cup for the Roosters for the best part of 2 years, making regular tackle busts, line breaks and scoring plenty of tries before being recruited by the Bulldogs.
Jacob Kiraz was off the charts with his stats in making plenty of tackle breaks and regularly making over 200 run metres for the Knights in NSW Cuo before being signed for a 2nd time by the Bulldogs.

 

[The Chad]

Personally I would prefer them to persevere with Sam F … he is still only 21 and played less than 50 games …. It’s harder to find edges then middles

I think people have some short memories of how he played last year … obviously there is some second year syndrome this season … no doubt because he has been targeted on the opposition game plans and tip sheets each week given the lack of other threats in the team …

To my naked eye he appears a bit lighter this year …maybe they asked him to drop some weight and it’s had a negative impact on his form ?

My issue isn't with his ability to play backrow.

My issue is with our ability to win the middle.

I think Samuela gives us the best chance to do that. I can't see a middle on the market that offers what we need.

I think a guy like Fifita could though. On the edge.

 

[tigahhh]

Personally I would prefer them to persevere with Sam F … he is still only 21 and played less than 50 games …. It’s harder to find edges then middles

I think people have some short memories of how he played last year … obviously there is some second year syndrome this season … no doubt because he has been targeted on the opposition game plans and tip sheets each week given the lack of other threats in the team …

To my naked eye he appears a bit lighter this year …maybe they asked him to drop some weight and it’s had a negative impact on his form ?

samuela is playing on one leg currently

 

[Tom Shines]

Smart recruitment.
Connor Tracey has always been a high energy, all action player with plenty of speed and toughness. He was a regular standout whenever called up to NRL for the Sharks and consistently dominated NSW Cup.
This is why myself and quite a few others regularly bang on about looking closely at recruiting NSW Cuo or Qld Cup standouts.
Jacob Preston another prime example, he was killing it in NSW Cup for the Roosters for the best part of 2 years, making regular tackle busts, line breaks and scoring plenty of tries before being recruited by the Bulldogs.
Jacob Kiraz was off the charts with his stats in making plenty of tackle breaks and regularly making over 200 run metres for the Knights in NSW Cuo before being signed for a 2nd time by the Bulldogs.

I can’t remember anyone here ever suggesting the WT recruit Tracey..which is amazing given the amount of players that do get mentioned … he has been your definition really of a journeyman ..and as mentioned earlier,,,,just because he has had success at the Dogs, doesn’t mean he would have that success at the WT this season if he was playing here …

What about Montoya ? Again ..a player no one here would have ever suggested ..but he is playing better than his previous form would indicate or even allow …. He is obviously being well coached within a strongly defined system on both sides of the ball… those systems don’t exist at our club

 

[Tito Santana]

No to Bullemor.

Thought he was lame.

 

[tigahhh]

Smart recruitment.
Connor Tracey has always been a high energy, all action player with plenty of speed and toughness. He was a regular standout whenever called up to NRL for the Sharks and consistently dominated NSW Cup.
This is why myself and quite a few others regularly bang on about looking closely at recruiting NSW Cuo or Qld Cup standouts.
Jacob Preston another prime example, he was killing it in NSW Cup for the Roosters for the best part of 2 years, making regular tackle busts, line breaks and scoring plenty of tries before being recruited by the Bulldogs.
Jacob Kiraz was off the charts with his stats in making plenty of tackle breaks and regularly making over 200 run metres for the Knights in NSW Cuo before being signed for a 2nd time by the Bulldogs.

yup , fringe first graders that can’t get a crack in the FG side . Thats how you build depth . Easy for bulldogs they have many recruitment officers because of a big money backing, as far as i can tell richo does it himself.

 

[tigahhh]

No to Bullemor.

Thought he was lame.

moses client too

 

[Vicious]

Personally I would prefer them to persevere with Sam F … he is still only 21 and played less than 50 games …. It’s harder to find edges then middles

I think people have some short memories of how he played last year … obviously there is some second year syndrome this season … no doubt because he has been targeted on the opposition game plans and tip sheets each week given the lack of other threats in the team …

To my naked eye he appears a bit lighter this year …maybe they asked him to drop some weight and it’s had a negative impact on his form ?

It’s not hard at all to find edges with speed, size, tackle bust and line breaking ability.
Sam Fainu is a keeper, but I’m adamant he lacks that explosive speed off the mark to make him an elite edge, but will offer plenty if moved back to the middle where he played most of his junior rep football.
If w don’t want to take the risk and pay the big money for someone such as David Fifita, we should then be looking at the likes of Simi Sasagi, Connelly Lemuelu, Kayliss Fatiofa as options who can provide us with the explosive speed, tackle bust and line breaking ability on an edge that we are currently so badly lacking.

 

[lathami]

No our attack was much worse this week for the majority of the game.
It still doesn’t exclude his bad it’s like week, 2 weeks in a row we have dished up attack that is well below NRL standard.

Gee I wonder why with bunji switching the halves twice in the game adding to the one before the game started! FNI

 

[Vicious]

yup , fringe first graders that can’t get a crack in the FG side . Thats how you build depth . Easy for bulldogs they have many recruitment officers because of a big money backing, as far as i can tell richo does it himself.

Get him on this forum

 

[Odessa]

Smart recruitment.
Connor Tracey has always been a high energy, all action player with plenty of speed and toughness. He was a regular standout whenever called up to NRL for the Sharks and consistently dominated NSW Cup.
This is why myself and quite a few others regularly bang on about looking closely at recruiting NSW Cuo or Qld Cup standouts.
Jacob Preston another prime example, he was killing it in NSW Cup for the Roosters for the best part of 2 years, making regular tackle busts, line breaks and scoring plenty of tries before being recruited by the Bulldogs.
Jacob Kiraz was off the charts with his stats in making plenty of tackle breaks and regularly making over 200 run metres for the Knights in NSW Cuo before being signed for a 2nd time by the Bulldogs.

The Tigers tried to get Tracy a few times first time Cronulla said no to a release and the second time he said no and went to the dogs

 

[Tom Shines]

It’s not hard at all to find edges with speed, size, tackle bust and line breaking ability.
Sam Fainu is a keeper, but I’m adamant he lacks that explosive speed off the mark to make him an elite edge, but will offer plenty if moved back to the middle where he played most of his junior rep football.
If w don’t want to take the risk and pay the big money for someone such as David Fifita, we should then be looking at the likes of Simi Sasagi, Connelly Lemuelu, Kayliss Fatiofa as options who can provide us with the explosive speed, tackle bust and line breaking ability on an edge that we are currently so badly lacking.

It seems hard for our club to find them …that’s why they have persevered with Seyfarth all year ..

And wanting to move the player of the year from last year at the position for some current no name isn’t the brightest idea I have heard from you today …

 

[tigahhh]

It’s not hard at all to find edges with speed, size, tackle bust and line breaking ability.
Sam Fainu is a keeper, but I’m adamant he lacks that explosive speed off the mark to make him an elite edge, but will offer plenty if moved back to the middle where he played most of his junior rep football.
If w don’t want to take the risk and pay the big money for someone such as David Fifita, we should then be looking at the likes of Simi Sasagi, Connelly Lemuelu, Kayliss Fatiofa as options who can provide us with the explosive speed, tackle bust and line breaking ability on an edge that we are currently so badly lacking.

warriors are littered with young explosive edges, they have the most depth there currently. their cup team is flying. Benji needs to channel that kiwi connection and get some of them under his wing

bunty afoa and TMM would be good depth too , raid the warriors BENJI ‼️‼️

 

[426Tlgerland]

samuela is playing on one leg currently

I feel this is correct he just isn’t hitting as hard as last year and it’s def and niggle injury hampering him , we know he can go well , him and KPP on the edges will be strong if both are fit , we need an aggressive middle , we also need Hunt back on the bench , last night we got 5 mtrs out multiple times only for Pole to get caught standing still where Hunt should have been barging in from 5 - 10 metres back , we score 2 tries early last night we win that game and we had many Chances to do this .

 

[Vicious]

I can’t remember anyone here ever suggesting the WT recruit Tracey..which is amazing given the amount of players that do get mentioned … he has been your definition really of a journeyman ..and as mentioned earlier,,,,just because he has had success at the Dogs, doesn’t mean he would have that success at the WT this season if he was playing here …

What about Montoya ? Again ..a player no one here would have ever suggested ..but he is playing better than his previous form would indicate or even allow …. He is obviously being well coached within a strongly defined system on both sides of the ball… those systems don’t exist at our club

Connor Tracey was mentioned in this very thread multiple times before the Bulldogs signed him and so too was Montoya.
I do agree that the Bulldogs no doubt currently have much better coaching structures in place than what we do, but good players are good players, we do not currently have enough of them.