Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[wonka]

I think you will find Arrow wants to play under Bennett,the old Broncs connection…nothing to do with dismissing WTs,just not where he wants to be,Unca Wayne is at Souths…

Why, Did not Bennett get rid of him at the Broncs.

 

[Rugba]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

 

[Tiger5150]

If south’s don’t want to pitch in then can he just get a full release the Join us on less money?

Why would he simply throw money away? Its not his problem that Souffs have screwed the cap management. He has a contract with Souffs for $x and he is entitled to it. Tigers deem him worthy to pay him $y. Doueihi should recieve $(x+y). If this cant happen, Souffs have to out their hands in their pockets to make it happen.

 

[Bones]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?

 

[Tiger5150]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?

They dont. For the sake of explaining my argument lets imagine your above example is Doueihi. Tiger DONT have to cover that (and I assume that is part of the hold up). Also, he is under contract to Souffs so Souffs dont HAVE to pay any of his contract for him to leave...BUT if it is in Souffs interest for him to leave, then they may be interested in chipping in. By the same token if Tigers value him enough, they may be prepared to pay more.

At the end of the day it is good old fashioned suppy and demand capitalism and there is no reason to interfere.

 

[Bob]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?

Because if has a great year and in year 2 he was worth 650 a year, another club would sign a him On year 3 for 650 and you got yourself a bargain for years 1 and 2

 

[TrueTiger]

I think you will find Arrow wants to play under Bennett,the old Broncs connection…nothing to do with dismissing WTs,just not where he wants to be,Unca Wayne is at Souths…

Why, Did not Bennett get rid of him at the Broncs.

I presume so,but why would he be keen to go to souths other than Bennett being there,he had other offers apparently..

 

[Bones]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?

Because if has a great year and in year 2 he was worth 650 a year, another club would sign a him On year 3 for 650 and you got yourself a bargain for years 1 and 2

Yes the club do, but the player didn’t. That’s the point. It’s a potential career killer for a player because nobody wants to pick up the tab. It may work for the players that turn into stars, but for the other 90% it’s a bad idea.

 

[hobbo1]

Bring on jac

Hound the fox 🦊

 

[Bones]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?


They dont. For the sake of explaining my argument lets imagine your above example is Doueihi. Tiger DONT have to cover that (and I assume that is part of the hold up). Also, he is under contract to Souffs so Souffs dont HAVE to pay any of his contract for him to leave...BUT if it is in Souffs interest for him to leave, then they may be interested in chipping in. By the same token if Tigers value him enough, they may be prepared to pay more.

At the end of the day it is good old fashioned suppy and demand capitalism and there is no reason to interfere.

So now In this Doueihi scenario he is stuck with the choice of staying at Souths and potentially playing the next 2 years as a bench player/backup, and possibly blocking his development as a player, or leaving and sacrificing the $ he is owed because his deal is back ended and nobody wants to pay full toll. The only winner is Souths and if I’m a manger or even the players association would be trying to put an end to it.

Rarely is it going to be in the players favour because the only reason to backend a deal is because the club can’t pay what you are worth in the first few years.

 

[Tiger5150]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?


They dont. For the sake of explaining my argument lets imagine your above example is Doueihi. Tiger DONT have to cover that (and I assume that is part of the hold up). Also, he is under contract to Souffs so Souffs dont HAVE to pay any of his contract for him to leave...BUT if it is in Souffs interest for him to leave, then they may be interested in chipping in. By the same token if Tigers value him enough, they may be prepared to pay more.

At the end of the day it is good old fashioned suppy and demand capitalism and there is no reason to interfere.

So now In this Doueihi scenario he is stuck with the choice of staying at Souths and potentially playing the next 2 years as a bench player/backup, and possibly blocking his development as a player, or leaving and sacrificing the $ he is owed because his deal is back ended and nobody wants to pay full toll. The only winner is Souths and if I’m a manger or even the players association would be trying to put an end to it.

Rarely is it going to be in the players favour because the only reason to backend a deal is because the club can’t pay what you are worth in the first few years.

Pretty much but I'd suggest even Souffs arent the winners because they potentially have a guy on the bench or CC on $600K pa (we know how that feels). Ultimately it will be a melding of Souffs desire to get rid of him , Tigers or other clubs desire to sign him, Doueihi's desire to nail down a first grade spot. Somewhere on this threeway scale the scale slides to the ultimate result and the market looks after itself.

 

[Newtown]

Matheson Johns was NSW under 20s centre in 2018 and NSW residents in 2019. Partnered Billy Smith who was to start at the Roostwrs in the nsw under 20s and Papemhuyzen was fb at the time. So plenty of potential and has succeeded every year in stepping up a grade. Wouldnt shock me if he got a top 30 spot but more shocking if he started at 1

I'm trying to remember how old Tim Brasher was when he debuted for Balmain.

 

[Furious1]

Matheson Johns was NSW under 20s centre in 2018 and NSW residents in 2019. Partnered Billy Smith who was to start at the Roostwrs in the nsw under 20s and Papemhuyzen was fb at the time. So plenty of potential and has succeeded every year in stepping up a grade. Wouldnt shock me if he got a top 30 spot but more shocking if he started at 1

I'm trying to remember how old Tim Brasher was when he debuted for Balmain.

18 i think. Pretty sure he was still at school.

 

[Rugba]

And don’t forget if the deal is not backended the player will want to leave ala matto , JAC etc.
At end of the day Douehi signed a contract for x amount over y years. He can either stay and be paid like Eastwood was at the dogs , or he can try find a club that will pay the same terms of his deal ala KLEMMER at the knights
also isn’t t e issue with Douehi he wants a 4 year deal , I’m certain his contract with Souths is not for 4 years

 

[Bones]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?


They dont. For the sake of explaining my argument lets imagine your above example is Doueihi. Tiger DONT have to cover that (and I assume that is part of the hold up). Also, he is under contract to Souffs so Souffs dont HAVE to pay any of his contract for him to leave...BUT if it is in Souffs interest for him to leave, then they may be interested in chipping in. By the same token if Tigers value him enough, they may be prepared to pay more.

At the end of the day it is good old fashioned suppy and demand capitalism and there is no reason to interfere.

So now In this Doueihi scenario he is stuck with the choice of staying at Souths and potentially playing the next 2 years as a bench player/backup, and possibly blocking his development as a player, or leaving and sacrificing the $ he is owed because his deal is back ended and nobody wants to pay full toll. The only winner is Souths and if I’m a manger or even the players association would be trying to put an end to it.

Rarely is it going to be in the players favour because the only reason to backend a deal is because the club can’t pay what you are worth in the first few years.


Pretty much but I'd suggest even Souffs arent the winners because they potentially have a guy on the bench or CC on $600K pa (we know how that feels). Ultimately it will be a melding of Souffs desire to get rid of him , Tigers or other clubs desire to sign him, Doueihi's desire to nail down a first grade spot. Somewhere on this threeway scale the scale slides to the ultimate result and the market looks after itself.

Well they win if they release him without chipping in any coin, which is what they want. In that case they under pay for 2 years then get someone else to pick up the tab for the payback.

 

[gallagher]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

Totally different scenario.

Look at it this way. If you are on a 3 year deal, year 1 Is 200k, year 2 Is 400k and year 3 is 600k. In the 3rd year you are basically getting paid the 200k you were short paid in year 1. Why should another club have to cover that?


They dont. For the sake of explaining my argument lets imagine your above example is Doueihi. Tiger DONT have to cover that (and I assume that is part of the hold up). Also, he is under contract to Souffs so Souffs dont HAVE to pay any of his contract for him to leave...BUT if it is in Souffs interest for him to leave, then they may be interested in chipping in. By the same token if Tigers value him enough, they may be prepared to pay more.

At the end of the day it is good old fashioned suppy and demand capitalism and there is no reason to interfere.

So now In this Doueihi scenario he is stuck with the choice of staying at Souths and potentially playing the next 2 years as a bench player/backup, and possibly blocking his development as a player, or leaving and sacrificing the $ he is owed because his deal is back ended and nobody wants to pay full toll. The only winner is Souths and if I’m a manger or even the players association would be trying to put an end to it.

Rarely is it going to be in the players favour because the only reason to backend a deal is because the club can’t pay what you are worth in the first few years.


Pretty much but I'd suggest even Souffs arent the winners because they potentially have a guy on the bench or CC on $600K pa (we know how that feels). Ultimately it will be a melding of Souffs desire to get rid of him , Tigers or other clubs desire to sign him, Doueihi's desire to nail down a first grade spot. Somewhere on this threeway scale the scale slides to the ultimate result and the market looks after itself.

Well they win if they release him without chipping in any coin, which is what they want. In that case they under pay for 2 years then get someone else to pick up the tab for the payback.

Yes, they get an advantage from dealing with a stupid club. Thank God Madge is around this time.

 

[Sabre]

And don’t forget if the deal is not backended the player will want to leave ala matto , JAC etc.
At end of the day Douehi signed a contract for x amount over y years. He can either stay and be paid like Eastwood was at the dogs , or he can try find a club that will pay the same terms of his deal ala KLEMMER at the knights
also isn’t t e issue with Douehi he wants a 4 year deal , I’m certain his contract with Souths is not for 4 years

I think it would be shortsighted of Doueihi to stay at Souths this year. He might earn more money by doing so but he would be harming the value of his next contract if he was to be stuck playing off the bench or in reserve grade.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him

 

[Cairnstigers]

Matheson Johns was NSW under 20s centre in 2018 and NSW residents in 2019. Partnered Billy Smith who was to start at the Roostwrs in the nsw under 20s and Papemhuyzen was fb at the time. So plenty of potential and has succeeded every year in stepping up a grade. Wouldnt shock me if he got a top 30 spot but more shocking if he started at 1

I'm trying to remember how old Tim Brasher was when he debuted for Balmain.

18 i think. Pretty sure he was still at school.

Yes he was still at school
Was a great player at a young age

 

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Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him

That was a damn good read until the last 2 sentences lol