Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jrtiger]

we're at the point where we need to recruit players that will be there when we win a comp. look at Parramatta's signings the season after they copped the spoon. Ferguson, Paulo, Lane and Waqa Blake have become mainstays of their side.

find project players like Luciano and Blore (Staines, Burton, Trindall, Saab etc), but balance them out with the likes of proven winners like Addo-Carr, Welch, Tamou, even Proctor. this club consists of a bunch of perennial losers that need to be taught what it takes to win.

 

[Sart0ri]

The in house barber might have something to do with the Covid bubble

 

[Wombat]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

We need to go after the best coaches, not rookies.

I agree and I'm not sure who mentioned it when I suggested Matty Johns, but we'll have limited finances for these types of resources once the the squad sizes decrease. Basically a throwaway suggestion who may possibly do it cheaper. That's all.

But so many claim we're one of the few clubs that make a profit? We so proudly say we're profitable but then say we're poor to excuse failure.

Well a few weeks back..there was a meeting with Pascoe attended by a few from here and I can tell you they increased the spend on the football dept bring in Hartigan from the Rorters and Gray from the Sharpies as well as dietitian's new physio's and sports science guys, various equipment even a barber..the spend was increased by close to 2mill on the previous 3 seasons

Hartigan Gray and Maguire all come from successful Clubs who won Premierships with their respective Clubs whilst there..

The money is going where it needs to go..yes we are all sick of waiting but often just throwing money at something doesn't fix it..

Thanks for the info. You could have shared that a few weeks ago when I questioned you on it.
So we can afford specialist coaches and not Benji and Elijah. Let's do that hey, and sack the barber.

Wait, is the barber a joke?

Barber would be based around player welfare... for this generation at least

 

[diedpretty]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

We need to go after the best coaches, not rookies.

I agree and I'm not sure who mentioned it when I suggested Matty Johns, but we'll have limited finances for these types of resources once the the squad sizes decrease. Basically a throwaway suggestion who may possibly do it cheaper. That's all.

But so many claim we're one of the few clubs that make a profit? We so proudly say we're profitable but then say we're poor to excuse failure.

Well a few weeks back..there was a meeting with Pascoe attended by a few from here and I can tell you they increased the spend on the football dept bring in Hartigan from the Rorters and Gray from the Sharpies as well as dietitian's new physio's and sports science guys, various equipment even a barber..the spend was increased by close to 2mill on the previous 3 seasons

Hartigan Gray and Maguire all come from successful Clubs who won Premierships with their respective Clubs whilst there..

The money is going where it needs to go..yes we are all sick of waiting but often just throwing money at something doesn't fix it..

Thanks for the info. You could have shared that a few weeks ago when I questioned you on it.
So we can afford specialist coaches and not Benji and Elijah. Let's do that hey, and sack the barber.

Wait, is the barber a joke?

No..you know the younger generation..hair is very important..they actually think it's a great thing..

That's brilliant. I'll make sure I pledge my membership for next year knowing they are paying for a barber. And people cry poor that we can't afford to compete with the rich clubs.
Why doesn't Pascoe use him?

You understand the spend on support staff can't be used in the salary cap for players, don't you? Who cares if they spend dollars on a barber - its from a separate allocation from the NRL. We have been spending under the cap for support staff so why not spend a bit more and bring in these type of initiatives.

 

[rustycage]

Have we got a finger nail manicurist yet? I'm sure the boys would appreciate that role being filled. It seems kind of ridiculous to have the hair on point and the nails letting the team down. We may not make the 8 but by God we could look good and feel amazing near the bottom of the ladder.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Why not loan out Brooks for a season to a strong club and see if he can come good out of his comfort zone? Just an outside of the box idea.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

 

[Viking Warrior]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo us better with a quick oass out of dh. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Paws for whatever reason Brooks isn't the player we want him to be, saddens me he hasn't had success as he has been loyal to us and is one of our own. He could still come good but maybe it's best we and him start a fresh.

 

[cochise]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

 

[cochise]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

Liddle is not better.

 

[Tigrrs]

I find it hard to believe that Madge is one of the toughest coaches in the NRL.
The other teams seem to rush up in defence all game, get more players into tackles then back onside, offer support when a break is made, all sprint for a kick chase, all sprint in cover defence.
They all seem much fitter than the Tigers.

Penrith were so much more energetic in defence and I think it is a mental attitude as well

 

[pawsandclaws1]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

Liddle is not better.

Liddle has a bullet pass out of dh and it gets our forwards on the front foot. This is what, his second game back from a very serious knee injury? It usually takes a year to get back to full fitness? Even now I can see he has a better all round game than Grant. But this is a forum and we each have our opinions.

 

[cochise]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

Liddle is not better.

Liddle has a bullet pass out of dh and it gets our forwards on the front foot. This is what, his second game back from a very serious knee injury? It usually takes a year to get back to full fitness? Even now I can see he has a better all round game than Grant. But this is a forum and we each have our opinions.

Our game went to water when Grant went off last night. Liddle is a very good player, Grant is a great player

 

[Red88_Tiger]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

Liddle is not better.

Liddle has a bullet pass out of dh and it gets our forwards on the front foot. This is what, his second game back from a very serious knee injury? It usually takes a year to get back to full fitness? Even now I can see he has a better all round game than Grant. But this is a forum and we each have our opinions.

Our game went to water when Grant went off last night. Liddle is a very good player, Grant is a great player

Didn’t see the game but were there any other changes at that point.

 

[sheer64]

Matt Burton cant get a game at the panthers........

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Let's hope the deals for JAC and Saab to WTs have been finalised.

 

[tiga4eva]

I wonder what a survey on how many Wests Tiger supporters intend to watch tonight's tonight would show. Clean out the loafers in the team Madge. The sooner the better. If it can be done at the end of this season then so be it.


Tonight will be the first game I haven’t watched live on TV or at the ground in over 10 years. It’s my personal protest, won’t count for much, I’m only one person, but I’m just sick of our mediocrity. It’s boring. Still want them to win, but sick of being angry and annoyed at our inability to compete

Same here just check the results.....

Had an awesome dinner with my Bride,kept ignoring the texts and calls from Tigers mates, judging by the anger on here, good call by me.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

Liddle is not better.

Liddle has a bullet pass out of dh and it gets our forwards on the front foot. This is what, his second game back from a very serious knee injury? It usually takes a year to get back to full fitness? Even now I can see he has a better all round game than Grant. But this is a forum and we each have our opinions.

Our game went to water when Grant went off last night. Liddle is a very good player, Grant is a great player

No our game was lost from the start. Our try was against the run of play. The forwards were smashed, going backwards all night. Bigger, fitter faster.

 

[cochise]

After tonight's display why don't we offer Brooks, Momirovski and Talau for Grant and JAC??
Give Brooks and Talau a year under Bellamy - and it could do them wonders - and we should go and target young Brayden Trindall from Sharks.
Staggs would also be a dream to have in this team.
Also feel someone of Walmsley's build would be good - a bulldozer type with limited minutes.

Though Benji's a bit unpopular on here atm, think he deserves to be considered as a halves coach and someone like ET could be great for our defensive coaching also - he's got one of the best techniques in the game.

Lauren that would confirm what a garbage club we have become. **Brooks is a fine player. He was outstanding under Cleary and if it means we need to adjust our style of play to get him back to his best, then so be it. Our forwards were smashed and we have no pace except for Brooks.**

Not sure what the club or team's style has to do with his performance.
I mean no offence to Luke but some things shouldn't need coaching and has more to do with how a player conducts himself.
Plus we may be years out from having such a team, which is the reason why I suggested a Brooks trade with Melbourne - though I think he could be quite useful for a few teams.

I think Luciano Leilua is the perfect example.
He's been brought into a new team but has shown nothing but continued development(in all areas of his game).
- He makes the concious effort to compete in each game he plays.
- He fulfills his role every game.
- He motivates others around him and
- He's possibly made the most changes of any of our players - on a physical level - by showing the right attitude toward getting into great physical shape.
- Oh and he's also playing 60 more minutes than he was last year.

So I'd say Luciano has not only acclimated to a new system but also has evolved as a player in a weak rostered team.
The club shouldn't be held accountable for how a player chooses to apply himself professionally - that's ultimately on them.
Club's don't usually change the construction of a whole team to accommodate one player in a form slump.
I honestly believe we should get a sports psychologist in for the team and hopefully this will benefit him, because going forward we can't keep players who aren't committed.

However, I totally agree with you on is our lacklustre attack.

Lauren, Brooks is one of our best. You don't trade away one of your best. There is also a chronic shortage of halves in the NRL.

A coach should be flexible enough to structure a game plan around the players' strengths. In my experience, attempting to impose a playing style without first considering players' strengths will result in failure.

As for trading, the JAC deal us not subject to a player trade, as was advised by CCTW. Moving forward, while Grant is a good player, Liddle imo is better with a quick pass out of dh and great speed. Simpkins also imo will be better than Grant.

Grant is at a different level to anyone in our team, it is not even close.

He's been in the Storm system and it is there for all to see. But imo, Liddle is a better player and Simpkin may be best of all. This does not mean I don't believe Grant us s good player, he is obviously.

Liddle is not better.

Liddle has a bullet pass out of dh and it gets our forwards on the front foot. This is what, his second game back from a very serious knee injury? It usually takes a year to get back to full fitness? Even now I can see he has a better all round game than Grant. But this is a forum and we each have our opinions.

Our game went to water when Grant went off last night. Liddle is a very good player, Grant is a great player

No our game was lost from the start. Our try was against the run of play. The forwards were smashed, going backwards all night. Bigger, fitter faster.

Rubbish, we were struggling for metres but our long kicking game was keeping us in the game, the game was in the balance when the Panthers made an error and when turned that into a 6-0 lead, we were also centimetres from making it 10-0. Yes they are a much better team than us, but I knew that before the game, but our fight early was keeping us in the game and Grant was a huge part of the game early on. He throws a beautiful long ball out of dummy half onto the chest of our forwards to get them away from the ruck. I sometimes think you don't watch the game and just make things up.