Simpkin

@seant said in [Simpkin](/post/1358723) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Simpkin](/post/1357725) said:
Liddle will end up at a club where he's appreciated.
Madge has done everything in his power to alienate the kid.
If you were his manager would you advise him to stay?
He'll be tearing us up with the Roosters next year.

Pfft Liddle wouldn't get into the roosters reserve grade side sorry.

Like Brooks he belongs in the lower teams.

Have a lie down, you're clearly not feeling well with comments like that.
 
@shooter-mcgavin said in [Simpkin](/post/1358327) said:
Would like to see both Simpkin and Liddle in the 17.

Starting hooker 0-30 minutes
Bench hooker 30-65 minutes
Starting hooker 65-80 minutes

Don’t know who I’d start and who I’d bench but that’s just a rough idea of how it could potentially be balanced better

How about both hookers the last 20-25 minutes ..obviously all dependent on the scoreboard of course

Start would be Simpkins ...utilize Liddle's speed with tiring middle defenders and edges that have hopefully been pulled apart

Then tear them apart with 2 hookers going out of dummy half with us just loading the middle with the speed we do have ...be a great way of utilizing Roberts if the tank isn't empty along with Laurie and Brooks .......
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1358673) said:
@speed2burn said in [Simpkin](/post/1358660) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1358649) said:
@gnr4life said in [Simpkin](/post/1358507) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1358486) said:
@inmadgewetrust said in [Simpkin](/post/1358240) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Simpkin](/post/1358166) said:
I'm sure if we looked at Cam Smith or Robbie Farah at 19 they would not resemble in playing skills the great hooker forwards they became. Remember Simpkin has been thrown into a badly beaten team and asked to perform as an established hooker. This is different to debuting with the Roosters or Penrith.

On Liddle, it takes 12 months of playing to regain confidence and speed after a serious knee injury. He has done remarkably well and I hope we can retain him. I believe he is Captain material.

Sorry but Robbie made a clean line break with his first touch in 1st grade. Let’s not compare Jake to Robbie or Cam Smith.

I get the point you’re trying to make. But you can’t make it with the two best hookers of the past 20 years.

Hate to say it but if Jake was as classy as Robbie or Smith, we’d already know about it. Doesn’t mean he still can’t be a quality player.

let's give liddle some time like another 49 games over 5 years

Who says Liddle needs time? He’s playing just fine

people are judging simpkin off 3 games
Liddle has had 49 games in 5 years to prove himself

More so people assessing where he’s at after 4 games in top flight rugba league

He’s still very much a work in progress , and for what it’s worth I’d keep him there for now but swap the roles

Liddle to start and Simpkin to bench. Mbye gone

that's what I meant simpkin has had less than 5 games and judged already, liddle has had 49 you know what he is capable of a very solid hooker but nothing special. Let's judge simpkins after 50 games


I think 30 odd of those games have been off the bench. Got caught behind aging players that would not move on.
 
@harvey said in [Simpkin](/post/1359328) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1358673) said:
@speed2burn said in [Simpkin](/post/1358660) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1358649) said:
@gnr4life said in [Simpkin](/post/1358507) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1358486) said:
@inmadgewetrust said in [Simpkin](/post/1358240) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Simpkin](/post/1358166) said:
I'm sure if we looked at Cam Smith or Robbie Farah at 19 they would not resemble in playing skills the great hooker forwards they became. Remember Simpkin has been thrown into a badly beaten team and asked to perform as an established hooker. This is different to debuting with the Roosters or Penrith.

On Liddle, it takes 12 months of playing to regain confidence and speed after a serious knee injury. He has done remarkably well and I hope we can retain him. I believe he is Captain material.

Sorry but Robbie made a clean line break with his first touch in 1st grade. Let’s not compare Jake to Robbie or Cam Smith.

I get the point you’re trying to make. But you can’t make it with the two best hookers of the past 20 years.

Hate to say it but if Jake was as classy as Robbie or Smith, we’d already know about it. Doesn’t mean he still can’t be a quality player.

let's give liddle some time like another 49 games over 5 years

Who says Liddle needs time? He’s playing just fine

people are judging simpkin off 3 games
Liddle has had 49 games in 5 years to prove himself

More so people assessing where he’s at after 4 games in top flight rugba league

He’s still very much a work in progress , and for what it’s worth I’d keep him there for now but swap the roles

Liddle to start and Simpkin to bench. Mbye gone

that's what I meant simpkin has had less than 5 games and judged already, liddle has had 49 you know what he is capable of a very solid hooker but nothing special. Let's judge simpkins after 50 games


I think 30 odd of those games have been off the bench. Got caught behind aging players that would not move on.

caught behind Harry Grant last year and Robbie both superior players
 
im thinking its madge/farah coaching his game away from him (and liddle)

i dont know about you guys but i thought liddles strength was his service from the turf, and from what i have seen he is now picking it up and throwing it, and even then the service seems slow and wayward

same deal with simpkin; all his lower grade stats which are through the roof seem to be non-existent in first grade, yes there is a step up so you cant expect the same try scoring rate, but a run is a run, whether it results in a line break or a try, and i can probably count on one hand how many times simpkin ran as a natural instinct.

if either are naturally talented surely you should be coaching to maximise that rather than try and change their style to suit the rest of the (bog average) team

i'm not saying sach madge/farah but maybe they need to reassess how they are coaching the boys
 
It's pointless to boot Simpkin back to reserves. The gulf between reserves and NRL is bigger than it has ever been. He isn't going to get any better there.

No doubt this will have the resident Jacob Liddle fanboys scrambling for the thumbs down button, but it's time to give him the flick.

Our win percentage with him in the side is even worse than Brooks.
 
@papacito said in [Simpkin](/post/1359354) said:
It's pointless to boot Simpkin back to reserves. The gulf between reserves and NRL is bigger than it has ever been. He isn't going to get any better there.

No doubt this will have the resident Jacob Liddle fanboys scrambling for the thumbs down button, but it's time to give him the flick.

Our win percentage with him in the side is even worse than Brooks.

Can you name any tigers player who has a win percentage over the last 5 years greater than 50% (must have played 10 games)
 
@papacito said in [Simpkin](/post/1359354) said:
No doubt this will have the resident Jacob Liddle fanboys scrambling for the thumbs down button, but it’s time to give him the flick.
Our win percentage with him in the side is even worse than Brooks.

Great point. Let's sack every player due to our winning percentage.
 
@harvey said in [Simpkin](/post/1359378) said:
@papacito said in [Simpkin](/post/1359354) said:
It's pointless to boot Simpkin back to reserves. The gulf between reserves and NRL is bigger than it has ever been. He isn't going to get any better there.

No doubt this will have the resident Jacob Liddle fanboys scrambling for the thumbs down button, but it's time to give him the flick.

Our win percentage with him in the side is even worse than Brooks.

Can you name any tigers player who has a win percentage over the last 5 years greater than 50% (must have played 10 games)

Robert Jennings.
 
@harvey said in [Simpkin](/post/1359378) said:
@papacito said in [Simpkin](/post/1359354) said:
It's pointless to boot Simpkin back to reserves. The gulf between reserves and NRL is bigger than it has ever been. He isn't going to get any better there.

No doubt this will have the resident Jacob Liddle fanboys scrambling for the thumbs down button, but it's time to give him the flick.

Our win percentage with him in the side is even worse than Brooks.

Can you name any tigers player who has a win percentage over the last 5 years greater than 50% (must have played 10 games)

Paul Momirovski the ?
 
Poor kid.

The bench was designed for players like him.

Favouring the likes of Brooks and Mybe over young players you are trying to build a roster around is the clear sign we are about to look for a new coach.
 
The kid needs a spell. Was good early but has come back to earth. Same for Utoikamanu.

I’m happy they are using rookies properly and not running them into the ground like the Dogs have done to a lot of players over the last few years.

He will be back. Hopefully liddle plays well he has been poor.
 
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359769) said:
Poor kid.

The bench was designed for players like him.

Favouring the likes of Brooks and Mybe over young players you are trying to build a roster around is the clear sign we are about to look for a new coach.

Do we really need to drag Brooks into every conversation. I’m not saying you are wrong, but it’s tiring, and isn’t the only issue.
 
@gnr4life said in [Simpkin](/post/1359779) said:
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359769) said:
Poor kid.

The bench was designed for players like him.

Favouring the likes of Brooks and Mybe over young players you are trying to build a roster around is the clear sign we are about to look for a new coach.

Do we really need to drag Brooks into every conversation. I’m not saying you are wrong, but it’s tiring, and isn’t the only issue.



I dont usually do that but tell me i am wrong.

No im not.
 
@gnr4life said in [Simpkin](/post/1359779) said:
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359769) said:
Poor kid.

The bench was designed for players like him.

Favouring the likes of Brooks and Mybe over young players you are trying to build a roster around is the clear sign we are about to look for a new coach.

Do we really need to drag Brooks into every conversation. I’m not saying you are wrong, but it’s tiring, and isn’t the only issue.


Its not BJ, Liddle, Mikaele, Stefano and Simpkin who have us in this position. Yet these guys are the ones he is punishing.

Its not an even playing field.

Almost like the coach is trying to win the senior playing group back, knowing he has lost the dressing shed and is too scared to upset them anymore.

Whats next drop Daine Laurie?
 
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359786) said:
@gnr4life said in [Simpkin](/post/1359779) said:
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359769) said:
Poor kid.

The bench was designed for players like him.

Favouring the likes of Brooks and Mybe over young players you are trying to build a roster around is the clear sign we are about to look for a new coach.

Do we really need to drag Brooks into every conversation. I’m not saying you are wrong, but it’s tiring, and isn’t the only issue.




Almost like the coach is trying to win the senior playing group back, knowing he has lost the dressing shed and is too scared to upset them anymore.

Whats next drop Daine Laurie?

That's the best theory to date.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Simpkin](/post/1359863) said:
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359786) said:
@gnr4life said in [Simpkin](/post/1359779) said:
@the_patriot said in [Simpkin](/post/1359769) said:
Poor kid.

The bench was designed for players like him.

Favouring the likes of Brooks and Mybe over young players you are trying to build a roster around is the clear sign we are about to look for a new coach.

Do we really need to drag Brooks into every conversation. I’m not saying you are wrong, but it’s tiring, and isn’t the only issue.




Almost like the coach is trying to win the senior playing group back, knowing he has lost the dressing shed and is too scared to upset them anymore.

Whats next drop Daine Laurie?

That's the best theory to date.


Ive only been thinking it for about 4 weeks. Only thing that makes sense.
 

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