SMH: Maguire not the problem

[Harvey]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.

I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

 

[Geo]

Chammas best bud Sam Ayoub..Sam Ayoub manages Jackson Hastings..interesting..

Club drip feeds Chammas as well too though.

I've been told Tigers don't have a special relationship with any one journalist, even ones they don't dislike they can't simply avoid because that's not how rugby league journalism works.

So I wouldn't assume that one journo or another has inside running every time they go to print.

Yeah fair enough, I get the feeling just by his journalism regarding the club appears to be either better reasoned or first to break. Just came to the conclusion that some at the club might be directing the narrative. Kinda the same way Crawley simps for Bennett.

If it was from the Club I'd be more concerned about the 'we can sack the coach without any financial hit' being disclosed but we wont than anything else...

 

[TigerWest]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

A spot on the hill apparently and some WT trinkets.

 

[hobbo1]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Contact dept of fair training

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

.............. At half time one of the most respected figures in rugby league walked into the corporate suite full of Tigers directors and hanger-onners to an avalanche of questions............

Blocker?

Nah they said "respected" :joy: Hopefully Gould, at least he has some clue of what he's talking about.

I find it strange that anyone on this forum is unaware of the disdain that Gould has for Wests.
It's even more annoying that the architect of the greatest piece of treachery perpetrated on this club would ever be mentioned in a positive light.
Gould is loathsome.
He never misses an opportunity to kick the club when it's down with a snide tweet or remark.

I recall Gould referring quite fondly to the Tigers on many occasions.

About as fondly as a schoolyard bully patting his victim on the head after pantsing him.
Memories like goldfish on here.

Gould always talks about packed Leichhardt

 

[kiwitiger]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

 

[Furious1]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

Who said that?

 

[The_Patriot]

Unfortunately I can't help but look at this from another angle.
Our coaches and players have often been used as scapegoats, for our lack of onfield success, just as much as our club and team club culture is brought into the conversation.
So perhaps when players don't sign with us it's not only because of our image - due to the exacerbation caused by any negative media attention - but that they just don't wish to have that added pressure on them.
I don't think the lower standard of being assigned with helping a club makes finals footy is the biggest reason that we can't land top line signatures. But moreso no one wants to risk becoming the whipping boy due to the club's/team's ongoing failure.

I'm actually stunned by the number of comments suggesting that Luke Brooks needs to feel all the pressure of this. As I think the club is a little demoralising (or certainly has been in the past) and a pressure cooker environment which has only caused players to languish. Not many players will thrive in these conditions and it needs to be rectified for our next lot of talented juniors, so we're not only a chance of keeping them but more importantly a club capable of optimally nurturing their development.

153 games.

Thats enough nurturing imo.

Will never achieve anything that way. Although i do agree with the principle you outlined. That applies to someone like Jacob Liddle not your seasoned pros like Luke Brooks

 

[TIGERPOWER]

I don't think Brooks is the main problem but he's clearly not a 7.... he can play well but he's not the man you want to have leading your team around. He's much better suited to 5/8. You cannot blame the club for giving up on him though, he's been here for 8 years and has had 2 good seasons?

Also I'm glad the club has a fail safe in case Madge fails - should help the people worried about his extension sleep at night. Club was very smart in their dealings there.

Do we agree AD is a 6 yet?

He's definitely a 6. Needs to work on his short kicking but he's got good passing, good bombs and a good running game and he's still only learning. Been one of our best lately

His defence is abysmal. Seriously for a big guy he just never finds his shoulder

Its his weakness at the moment. He needs to hit the gym and build some upper body muscle. His a big boy and too easily are opposition players going through him.

 

[kiwitiger]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

Who said that?

Webster in a tweet. Its in some tread

 

[avocadoontoast]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

Who said that?

Webster in a tweet. Its in some tread

He's not the assistant coach, he's the journalist.

 

[Geo]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

Who said that?

Webster in a tweet. Its in some tread

Webster the Panthers assistant..? good to know he still cares...

 

[Lauren]

Unfortunately I can't help but look at this from another angle.
Our coaches and players have often been used as scapegoats, for our lack of onfield success, just as much as our club and team club culture is brought into the conversation.
So perhaps when players don't sign with us it's not only because of our image - due to the exacerbation caused by any negative media attention - but that they just don't wish to have that added pressure on them.
I don't think the lower standard of being assigned with helping a club makes finals footy is the biggest reason that we can't land top line signatures. But moreso no one wants to risk becoming the whipping boy due to the club's/team's ongoing failure.

I'm actually stunned by the number of comments suggesting that Luke Brooks needs to feel all the pressure of this. As I think the club is a little demoralising (or certainly has been in the past) and a pressure cooker environment which has only caused players to languish. Not many players will thrive in these conditions and it needs to be rectified for our next lot of talented juniors, so we're not only a chance of keeping them but more importantly a club capable of optimally nurturing their development.


153 games.

Thats enough nurturing imo.

Will never achieve anything that way. Although i do agree with the principle you outlined. That applies to someone like Jacob Liddle not your seasoned pros like Luke Brooks

The point of my whole post is the problem is bigger than Brooks. Or Madge.
Replace both but the problem still lies.

FYI I'm specifically talking about recruitment issues with our inability of luring elite talent.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I don't think Brooks is the main problem but he's clearly not a 7.... he can play well but he's not the man you want to have leading your team around. He's much better suited to 5/8. You cannot blame the club for giving up on him though, he's been here for 8 years and has had 2 good seasons?

Also I'm glad the club has a fail safe in case Madge fails - should help the people worried about his extension sleep at night. Club was very smart in their dealings there.

Do we agree AD is a 6 yet?

He's definitely a 6. Needs to work on his short kicking but he's got good passing, good bombs and a good running game and he's still only learning. Been one of our best lately

His defence is abysmal. Seriously for a big guy he just never finds his shoulder

Its his weakness at the moment. He needs to hit the gym and build some upper body muscle. His a big boy and too easily are opposition players going through him.

Hmmmm ... nah I think it’s the RU in him . Whacking a bloke up top , takes a while to not feel like your going to do a shoulder or a peck . It’s probably mental more than anything .

 

[kiwitiger]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

Who said that?

Webster in a tweet. Its in some tread

Webster the Panthers assistant..? good to know he still cares...

Crap it was actually the journalist.

Ok i'll ban myself from commenting.

 

[kiwitiger]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game


Who would have thought running a law firm and having a bucket load of cash suddenly makes you a rugby league expert.

The more I see of Chairman Lee, the more convinced I am that he is a tool, completely out of his depth.

We have handed over the keys to the club to someone completely unqualified in return for sponsorship.

I think you misunderstand the role and expected experience of the Chairperson. Marina Go didn't have a league background, neither did Barry O'F. The current Wests Ashfield CEO (and Tigers board member, interim Chair) Simon Cook isn't from League. They are business people. At that level, Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Club are a business.

I'd rather Lee H "shoot his mouth off" on occasion and keep his sponsorship money and connections, than punt Lee to the kerb.

Exactly. He is a business person, they hire football people to make football decisions and yet Chairman Lee seems to keep wanting to place himself front and centre.

Recruitment, leave the meetings to him. Tommy Raudonikis commemoration, let him display the jersey. Can someone at the ground tell me did he do that in all grades, or only when the TV cameras were around.

Best thing he could bring from his business knowledge is introducing a no win no pay to membership, tickets and some of our bludgers contracts.

I think his money and the fact he is chairman of the club gives him some entitlements, I don't see a problem, at least he cares.


I have paid memberships and I care. What am I entitled to?

Well definitely not the right to boo, according to 1 of the assistant coaches.

Who said that?

Webster in a tweet. Its in some tread

He's not the assistant coach, he's the journalist.

You are right. And the other guy had left anyway

 

[The_Patriot]

Unfortunately I can't help but look at this from another angle.
Our coaches and players have often been used as scapegoats, for our lack of onfield success, just as much as our club and team club culture is brought into the conversation.
So perhaps when players don't sign with us it's not only because of our image - due to the exacerbation caused by any negative media attention - but that they just don't wish to have that added pressure on them.
I don't think the lower standard of being assigned with helping a club makes finals footy is the biggest reason that we can't land top line signatures. But moreso no one wants to risk becoming the whipping boy due to the club's/team's ongoing failure.

I'm actually stunned by the number of comments suggesting that Luke Brooks needs to feel all the pressure of this. As I think the club is a little demoralising (or certainly has been in the past) and a pressure cooker environment which has only caused players to languish. Not many players will thrive in these conditions and it needs to be rectified for our next lot of talented juniors, so we're not only a chance of keeping them but more importantly a club capable of optimally nurturing their development.


153 games.

Thats enough nurturing imo.

Will never achieve anything that way. Although i do agree with the principle you outlined. That applies to someone like Jacob Liddle not your seasoned pros like Luke Brooks

The point of my whole post is the problem is bigger than Brooks. Or Madge.
Replace both but the problem still lies.

FYI I'm specifically talking about recruitment issues with our inability of luring elite talent.

Sorry disagree, but thats ok.

And we have also recruited elite talent. Unfortunately they are rookies and are not big names yet. The recruitment is just fine its the overly patient approach to under performing players that is the real issue.

 

[Tim Sheens]

You can't blame Brooks for the forwards running one-out all year, for the drop balls, for the stupid penalties...

When we were attacking near their line chasing points in the second half, he went right looking for runners. The backline was so flat he had to turn back inside because the Cowboy defence was upon them. Where is the depth?

And when there was a bit of depth he created a two man overlap to allow the space for Garner to spear through for his try and similarly for Nofoaluma getting a clear run to the corner off Doueihi passes.

The halves combined well for them, but Brooks clearly controlled the play, plus nailed two tries with great kicks.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Your patience can be tested but that first half performance on Sunday was all about effort and attitude.”

The Wests Tigers lost 34-30 and were booed off the paddock at half-time, trailing 28-6.

**“This is something no administration has got control over,” Hagipantelis said.**

“Once the boys cross that line and run onto the paddock they’ve got to do their jobs.


What garbage.... They weren't ready, they didn't turn up... That's meant to be addressed by the head cosch BEFORE and in the lead up to the game

How do you figure that ? If they train well , do everything they’re supposed to do , warm up well , and then mentally fall into a heap , whilst out there , how is it the coaches fault ? Outside of engaging mental health professionals.

They clearly weren't prepared... You couldn't see that?
First try to them... no hunger it was like as someone else put it "oh well well get that one back next"
It's clear the preparation and whatever they're doing to in still some aggro and attitude isn't there... It's. Like they didn't give a stuff.. I'm sick of it

Tend to agree and unlike most here don't blame Nofoaluma so much for the early try, nor Roberts.

Our three edge players were involved in the tackle and none of our middle got over to help Nofo and at least limit the space there.

Lack of effort.

 

[Lauren]

Unfortunately I can't help but look at this from another angle.
Our coaches and players have often been used as scapegoats, for our lack of onfield success, just as much as our club and team club culture is brought into the conversation.
So perhaps when players don't sign with us it's not only because of our image - due to the exacerbation caused by any negative media attention - but that they just don't wish to have that added pressure on them.
I don't think the lower standard of being assigned with helping a club makes finals footy is the biggest reason that we can't land top line signatures. But moreso no one wants to risk becoming the whipping boy due to the club's/team's ongoing failure.

I'm actually stunned by the number of comments suggesting that Luke Brooks needs to feel all the pressure of this. As I think the club is a little demoralising (or certainly has been in the past) and a pressure cooker environment which has only caused players to languish. Not many players will thrive in these conditions and it needs to be rectified for our next lot of talented juniors, so we're not only a chance of keeping them but more importantly a club capable of optimally nurturing their development.


153 games.

Thats enough nurturing imo.

Will never achieve anything that way. Although i do agree with the principle you outlined. That applies to someone like Jacob Liddle not your seasoned pros like Luke Brooks

The point of my whole post is the problem is bigger than Brooks. Or Madge.
Replace both but the problem still lies.

FYI I'm specifically talking about recruitment issues with our inability of luring elite talent.


Sorry disagree, but thats ok.

And we have also recruited elite talent. Unfortunately they are rookies and are not big names yet. The recruitment is just fine its the overly patient approach to under performing players that is the real issue.

I understand frustrations and emotions are high but there's really no need for it in your responses to me.
I don't care if you wish to argue semantics or contradict yourself in doing so but to suggest one player deserves all pressure of our decade long failure is vile.