Stefano Utoikamanu extends until 2025..

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I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.
 
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

Medical retirement coming up Catain Tamou???
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Stefano](/post/1459194) said:
It was great watching him run over the top of Kikau. Sick of hearing how he's a barnstorming forward when all he does is run at halves and centres. Stef levelled him.

Next stop haas
 
@aceshigh said in [Stefano](/post/1459313) said:
Would be nice to be able to tie him up long term but the way player managers are these days we will be paying big to do so . He has def been improved after his SOO stint

So what pay big he’s worth it.

Avoid the dramas that haas is bringing to the broncos because they got a deal.

His upgrade is a statement to the kids coming through
 
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

I think Joffa has been played all over the place.
He looks lean as atm almost like Madge is trying to mould him into a backrow/lock style motor player.

Agree on someone like Thompson. Stefano needs support up front and very soon otherwise he will pack up and leave or get burnt out. Stefano is one heck of a talent someone we can build off for sure.
 
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

So does that mean we would now have Twal, Steph, Mickaele, Musgrove, Offas, Tamou and now we want another Prop. How much is this one gonna cost and is that what this club really needs. I didnt count amone also as who knows what is happening with him. That would mean we have 7 props (with Thompson) in a 30 man squad and 8 if you count amone. I think we have enough props. We are now stuck with Tamou for another year and correct me if im wrong but Offas for 2 more. Dont get me started on that one though.
 
@weststigerman said in [Stefano](/post/1459266) said:
Anyone else worried about him wanting out in the off season?

The trend for the last 2 years has been one of our best performed players ends up getting released and before that it was the coach.

**It would be nice if we can get through the off season without losing one of our better players.**

Damn it!
Heard we're losing Mbye.
 
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459723) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

So does that mean we would now have Twal, Steph, Mickaele, Musgrove, Offas, Tamou and now we want another Prop. How much is this one gonna cost and is that what this club really needs. I didnt count amone also as who knows what is happening with him. That would mean we have 7 props (with Thompson) in a 30 man squad and 8 if you count amone. I think we have enough props. We are now stuck with Tamou for another year and correct me if im wrong but Offas for 2 more. Dont get me started on that one though.

A good prop. The players you mention, only Stefano is playing well. Twal mostly plays lock these days and Joffa more like backrow.
 
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459766) said:
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459723) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

So does that mean we would now have Twal, Steph, Mickaele, Musgrove, Offas, Tamou and now we want another Prop. How much is this one gonna cost and is that what this club really needs. I didnt count amone also as who knows what is happening with him. That would mean we have 7 props (with Thompson) in a 30 man squad and 8 if you count amone. I think we have enough props. We are now stuck with Tamou for another year and correct me if im wrong but Offas for 2 more. Dont get me started on that one though.

A good prop. The players you mention, only Stefano is playing well. Twal mostly plays lock these days and Joffa more like backrow.

He is a good prop mate (when he is on the field) and of course he would make us better but we have snookered ourselves again with long term contracts to crap like Tamou and Offas. In my opinion Twal is a Prop and surely you cant have Offas on an edge so he is not a backrower so i dont know where he sits. If i had my way he would be in reggies. Why we keep persisting with him whilst Tuki is on the sidelines i dont know. Same goes for Luci. I thought we were developing these kids but that must be done from the sidelines these days.
 
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

either Thompson or Woods to support Stef
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Stefano](/post/1459843) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

either Thompson or Woods to support Stef


Haas is the guy I would like to see at WT. He’s clearly not happy.
 
@twentyforty said in [Stefano](/post/1459864) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Stefano](/post/1459843) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

either Thompson or Woods to support Stef


Haas is the guy I would like to see at WT. He’s clearly not happy.

Didn’t he just re-sign with the Broncos?
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Stefano](/post/1459865) said:
@twentyforty said in [Stefano](/post/1459864) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Stefano](/post/1459843) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

either Thompson or Woods to support Stef


Haas is the guy I would like to see at WT. He’s clearly not happy.

Didn’t he just re-sign with the Broncos?

That was FAKE News..Broncos even made a statement about it..
 
@geo said in [Stefano](/post/1459868) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Stefano](/post/1459865) said:
@twentyforty said in [Stefano](/post/1459864) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Stefano](/post/1459843) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

either Thompson or Woods to support Stef


Haas is the guy I would like to see at WT. He’s clearly not happy.

Didn’t he just re-sign with the Broncos?

That was FAKE News..Broncos even made a statement about it..

Hes sacking Orr. He is signed through to 24.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Stefano](/post/1459194) said:
It was great watching him run over the top of Kikau. Sick of hearing how he's a barnstorming forward when all he does is run at halves and centres. Stef levelled him.

Agree. No-one mentioned that Stephano ran over Kikau at LO to score a try in round 1.

Kikau is Stephano's bunny.
 
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459841) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459766) said:
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459723) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

So does that mean we would now have Twal, Steph, Mickaele, Musgrove, Offas, Tamou and now we want another Prop. How much is this one gonna cost and is that what this club really needs. I didnt count amone also as who knows what is happening with him. That would mean we have 7 props (with Thompson) in a 30 man squad and 8 if you count amone. I think we have enough props. We are now stuck with Tamou for another year and correct me if im wrong but Offas for 2 more. Dont get me started on that one though.

A good prop. The players you mention, only Stefano is playing well. Twal mostly plays lock these days and Joffa more like backrow.

He is a good prop mate (when he is on the field) and of course he would make us better but we have snookered ourselves again with long term contracts to crap like Tamou and Offas. In my opinion Twal is a Prop and surely you cant have Offas on an edge so he is not a backrower so i dont know where he sits. If i had my way he would be in reggies. Why we keep persisting with him whilst Tuki is on the sidelines i dont know. Same goes for Luci. I thought we were developing these kids but that must be done from the sidelines these days.

Tuki isn't quite ready and needs another offseason.
 
@cochise said in [Stefano](/post/1459889) said:
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459841) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459766) said:
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459723) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

So does that mean we would now have Twal, Steph, Mickaele, Musgrove, Offas, Tamou and now we want another Prop. How much is this one gonna cost and is that what this club really needs. I didnt count amone also as who knows what is happening with him. That would mean we have 7 props (with Thompson) in a 30 man squad and 8 if you count amone. I think we have enough props. We are now stuck with Tamou for another year and correct me if im wrong but Offas for 2 more. Dont get me started on that one though.

A good prop. The players you mention, only Stefano is playing well. Twal mostly plays lock these days and Joffa more like backrow.

He is a good prop mate (when he is on the field) and of course he would make us better but we have snookered ourselves again with long term contracts to crap like Tamou and Offas. In my opinion Twal is a Prop and surely you cant have Offas on an edge so he is not a backrower so i dont know where he sits. If i had my way he would be in reggies. Why we keep persisting with him whilst Tuki is on the sidelines i dont know. Same goes for Luci. I thought we were developing these kids but that must be done from the sidelines these days.

Tuki isn't quite ready and needs another offseason.

He sure does and probably more. But i reckon we have more of a chance of winning comp with him in a couple of years than Offa so for me out goes Offa and in comes Tuki. Same for Tualagi for Luci. We are playing the wooden spooners in a non event of a game after all. If ever you want your players "developed" this is it. Wont be happening from the grandstands though. I obviously think differently to Madge.
 
@cochise said in [Stefano](/post/1459889) said:
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459841) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459766) said:
@tigertuff said in [Stefano](/post/1459723) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

So does that mean we would now have Twal, Steph, Mickaele, Musgrove, Offas, Tamou and now we want another Prop. How much is this one gonna cost and is that what this club really needs. I didnt count amone also as who knows what is happening with him. That would mean we have 7 props (with Thompson) in a 30 man squad and 8 if you count amone. I think we have enough props. We are now stuck with Tamou for another year and correct me if im wrong but Offas for 2 more. Dont get me started on that one though.

A good prop. The players you mention, only Stefano is playing well. Twal mostly plays lock these days and Joffa more like backrow.

He is a good prop mate (when he is on the field) and of course he would make us better but we have snookered ourselves again with long term contracts to crap like Tamou and Offas. In my opinion Twal is a Prop and surely you cant have Offas on an edge so he is not a backrower so i dont know where he sits. If i had my way he would be in reggies. Why we keep persisting with him whilst Tuki is on the sidelines i dont know. Same goes for Luci. I thought we were developing these kids but that must be done from the sidelines these days.

Tuki isn't quite ready and needs another offseason.

I thought tuki was good in his limited stints

Just needs a good offseason to musclr up and get vus minutes up

Keep up those offloads tho
 
@mighty_tiger said in [Stefano](/post/1459670) said:
@jirskyr said in [Stefano](/post/1459333) said:
I'm starting to see the potential availability of Luke Thompson as a more obvious step to bolster the forward pack and support Stefano.

Tamou is more or less done - he'll do a job but he's not a forward leader any more, not unless his form dramatically improves 2022.

Blore is the real deal just needs more matches under his belt without injury.

Twal gives you guaranteed workman output.

Joffa has been very disappointing - maybe he can turn it around, but as an experienced campaigner he's been making less and less impact as the year has gone on, and we bought him for the purpose of providing that impact and mobility.

So it leaves us one prop short; a dynamic, aggressive prop to support Stefano's obvious talent.

I think Joffa has been played all over the place.
He looks lean as atm almost like Madge is trying to mould him into a backrow/lock style motor player.

Agree on someone like Thompson. Stefano needs support up front and very soon otherwise he will pack up and leave or get burnt out. Stefano is one heck of a talent someone we can build off for sure.

Im a fan of Joffa. He is really putting in and his effort is there every game. If we can get to a point where Joffa is the weak link in our pack, we are looking good.
 
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