Taylor thinking long-term for Tigers

[Eddie]

To say results do not matter and performances do is a bit of a slap in the face for the fans and members/sponsors etc.

Thats is the quote of a coch trying to take the heat off. You often here from European Soccer coaches of teams that play attractive football but can't handle the going when it gets tough.

We don't even play attractive football so that is a particularly depressing quote.

 

[TIGER]

Im starting to get a really strange feeling that we might roll the Bunnies tonight. Anyone else feel the same?

 

[tsjonathan]

Im starting to get a really strange feeling that we might roll the Bunnies tonight. Anyone else feel the same?

Honestly, not really. But I could be wrong.

 

[magpiecol]

I for one am with him.

Do your thing JT - I'll look at results next year but for this season get the young guys and the older guys on the same page.

Those that bought memberships expecting results were delirious.
Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

It will take time and I am waiting patiently. Whinging gets you nowhere except putting your own headspace in a better place. Doesn't help the team though and hopefully they are not reading it.

There I go - on my "High Horse" again Stryker

Good post.

Some people do not know the meaning of " long term ". These days it is about instant gratification. This club will take years to turn around because of our young roster. When they sort out the salary cap situation and add a couple of top shelf players ( as opposed to the ordinay players some people on this forum want to sign ) we will go ok.

At the start of the year, everybody wanted the coach of the Cowboys sacked because they lost 3 games in a row. Look at them now. If we had Thurston we would be in the same boat. Lay back, keep your whinging for the refs and our opposition and enjoy the ride to a new and better club.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

I've still not worked out what it was they were so hell bent on trying to fix. There were no problems until injuries and the "Smith-gate" saga.

I notice last night I heard Taylor mention injuries to us now. Guess it's different now.

 

[magpiecol]

Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

I've still not worked out what it was they were so hell bent on trying to fix. There were no problems until injuries and the "Smith-gate" saga.

I notice last night I heard Taylor mention injuries to us now. Guess it's different now.

Are you kidding?

What has this team done since 2005?

Sheens gate, Farah gate, Benji gate, injury gate, defence gate, Board gate, Potter gate.

I am running out of gates!!!!

 

[jirskyr]

Im starting to get a really strange feeling that we might roll the Bunnies tonight. Anyone else feel the same?

Yeah I'm feeling it, and I was at the Gold Coast game last week.

 

[TrueTiger]

Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

I've still not worked out what it was they were so hell bent on trying to fix. There were no problems until injuries and the "Smith-gate" saga.

I notice last night I heard Taylor mention injuries to us now. Guess it's different now.

Are you kidding?

What has this team done since 2005?

Sheens gate, Farah gate, Benji gate, injury gate, defence gate, Board gate, Potter gate.

I am running out of gates!!!!

Reminds me of the song…."please dont fence me in".....the place is starting to have that "gated residence"feel about it.... :laughing: :smiling_imp:

 

[jirskyr]

Worse coach/fit ever, these days are more depressing than supporting Balmain in the 90s

He has been the worst I have ever seen.

All I can hope is that he somehow wakes up to himself or the board fixes the issue. I've never watched such low quality footy.

You surely are both kidding, right?

I'll cop criticism of the 2015 side and JT as a coach, because it is justified. But to say it is worse than Balmain in the 90s, that this is the lowest-quality footy you've ever seen from the Tigers, only shows that you don't have a good memory of those times.

I was a teenager then, and we fielded some very very ordinary teams, teams where many of our first-choice players were not first-grade quality, and we came up against clubs like Broncos who were brimming with representative talent.

I remember games where we were simply happy not to be lapped, where a 20 point loss was a decent achievement, because it was not a 50-point loss. I remember boring 2-point wins, in the mud at Leichhardt, where both teams could do nothing except drop the footy. I remember thinking that winning 50% of our games was a huge achievement. I remember bright, warm, sunny afternoons at LO where the attendance was borderline 5000 people. I remember coming last in 1994 and being very very close to being ejected from the competition after the Super League war.

The Balmain Tigers post 1993 were a thoroughly ordinary and mostly disappointing side.

In 1993 Balmain won 6/22 games, and we still had rep players like Elias, Siro and Brasher going around. Same year Wests were no better, winning 7/22 games.

In 1994 Balmain won 4/22 games, including a 10-game losing streak where we were outscored 108-306.

In 1998 Balmain won 5 out of the first 6, then won 4 out of the next 18.

In 1999 Wests won 3/24 games, with a season-concluding losing streak of 12 (one of the worst season's I have ever witnessed).

Between 1993 and 1999 Balmain won 55 games, drew 2, lost 101 (35%).

By all means, give constructive criticism about the way the current team operates, but do so with the understanding that your expectations have vastly increased, and that you expect the team to be eager and competitive every single week, to be a chance to win every match. Some perspective, please.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Normally Russell i am very positive and rarely speak badly of the players. If they have a go i am happy.

But its this negative style of play that has me depressed…..its funny they say you dont know what you've lost till its gone....and i really liked the idea of no nonsense,olskool tough type team. A bit like that grand ol Balmain side of the 80's or the Wests one of the 70's.

But now we are doing it im SOOOOOO BORED with it.

Ive actually been going back and looking at ol footage of the 2005-11 tigers and what a joy it was.Im really missing the free flowing style and high scoring games.....i hadnt realized how used to it i had become.

This style reminds me of that 03-04 time when we would grind out the occasional win...man that was depressing to be a tiger then,as it is now.

I would like to temper the fact that we seem to have lost the agro we had at the start of this year,same as last year,we bashed Souffs and Manly and then lost that spark.

I guess i could handle the losing so much better with this supposed defense if we were actually BASHING sides but we dont seem to be doing that either.

Still love the boys and hoping they turn it around.....

This is me too Simon.
I wouldn't mind us losing if we were gaining respect in the process. The last two seasons now we have started with a rocket up the backside and fade into pussy cats. I hate seeing our young spine get bashed by the opposition and then they have to bridge up without support from the pigs. Credit to teddy, brooks and Moses, they all try to give it back to the opposition.

If this year isn't about results I can cop it, but make it about ticker.

In the words of many a great drunk on the hill "somebody kill somebody"'!

 

[simonthetiger]

Worse coach/fit ever, these days are more depressing than supporting Balmain in the 90s

He has been the worst I have ever seen.

All I can hope is that he somehow wakes up to himself or the board fixes the issue. I've never watched such low quality footy.

You surely are both kidding, right?

I'll cop criticism of the 2015 side and JT as a coach, because it is justified. But to say it is worse than Balmain in the 90s, that this is the lowest-quality footy you've ever seen from the Tigers, only shows that you don't have a good memory of those times.

I was a teenager then, and we fielded some very very ordinary teams, teams where many of our first-choice players were not first-grade quality, and we came up against clubs like Broncos who were brimming with representative talent.

I remember games where we were simply happy not to be lapped, where a 20 point loss was a decent achievement, because it was not a 50-point loss. I remember boring 2-point wins, in the mud at Leichhardt, where both teams could do nothing except drop the footy. I remember thinking that winning 50% of our games was a huge achievement. I remember bright, warm, sunny afternoons at LO where the attendance was borderline 5000 people. I remember coming last in 1994 and being very very close to being ejected from the competition after the Super League war.

The Balmain Tigers post 1993 were a thoroughly ordinary and mostly disappointing side.

In 1993 Balmain won 6/22 games, and we still had rep players like Elias, Siro and Brasher going around. Same year Wests were no better, winning 7/22 games.

In 1994 Balmain won 4/22 games, including a 10-game losing streak where we were outscored 108-306.

In 1998 Balmain won 5 out of the first 6, then won 4 out of the next 18.

In 1999 Wests won 3/24 games, with a season-concluding losing streak of 12 (one of the worst season's I have ever witnessed).

Between 1993 and 1999 Balmain won 55 games, drew 2, lost 101 (35%).

By all means, give constructive criticism about the way the current team operates, but do so with the understanding that your expectations have vastly increased, and that you expect the team to be eager and competitive every single week, to be a chance to win every match. Some perspective, please.

Agree completely…..In no way is this side even close to the horrors of Balmain through the 90's after our fab five retired and we had no coin or players.....it was just awful....but they did try their arses off and I reckon Junior Pearce squeezed every ounce out of them that he could.

This team has heaps of promise,stars and internationals in it,both junior and senior!

 

[simonthetiger]

This is me too Simon.
I wouldn't mind us losing if we were gaining respect in the process. The last two seasons now we have started with a rocket up the backside and fade into pussy cats. I hate seeing our young spine get bashed by the opposition and then they have to bridge up without support from the pigs. Credit to teddy, brooks and Moses, they all try to give it back to the opposition.

If this year isn't about results I can cop it, but make it about ticker.

In the words of many a great drunk on the hill "somebody kill somebody"'!

Glad im not on my Pat Malone here.

It is frustrating.

 

[TrueTiger]

I for one am with him.

Do your thing JT - I'll look at results next year but for this season get the young guys and the older guys on the same page.

Those that bought memberships expecting results were delirious.
Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

It will take time and I am waiting patiently. Whinging gets you nowhere except putting your own headspace in a better place. Doesn't help the team though and hopefully they are not reading it.

There I go - on my "High Horse" again Stryker

Good post.

Some people do not know the meaning of " long term ". These days it is about instant gratification. This club will take years to turn around because of our young roster. When they sort out the salary cap situation and add a couple of top shelf players ( as opposed to the ordinay players some people on this forum want to sign ) we will go ok.

At the start of the year, everybody wanted the coach of the Cowboys sacked because they lost 3 games in a row. Look at them now. If we had Thurston we would be in the same boat. Lay back, keep your whinging for the refs and our opposition and enjoy the ride to a new and better club.

Magpiecol,Jesus I hope your right,I couldnt take another couple of years doing the same thing week after week after week,you would reckon something will sink in eventually….

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

I've still not worked out what it was they were so hell bent on trying to fix. There were no problems until injuries and the "Smith-gate" saga.

I notice last night I heard Taylor mention injuries to us now. Guess it's different now.

Are you kidding?

What has this team done since 2005?

Sheens gate, Farah gate, Benji gate, injury gate, defence gate, Board gate, Potter gate.

I am running out of gates!!!!

I'm not talking about since 05\. I'm talking about last year. We had a new coach and a team going pretty ok, in the 8, a threat, and then in comes Smith. Farah has a hissy fit because he knows better than the coach, and Payten white ants away seeing an opportunity for a head coaching gig. But in reality, on field performance last year was looking the goods until Smith was invited to share his infinite wisdom. Great decision that one from Mayer. Nothing more than a clash of personalities in my opinion given the famous eye roll. Then he used his position to shift a hamstrung coach for what we have now. Lets see what we hear as we crawl to the finish line. Not all bad, defense is improving, better than last year, a way to go, blah, blah, blah….when does the cricket season start? :brick:

 

[TrueTiger]

WD,dont forget we had an injury list as long as the patient list at St Vincents Hospital….

 

[Juro]

Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

I've still not worked out what it was they were so hell bent on trying to fix. There were no problems until injuries and the "Smith-gate" saga.

I notice last night I heard Taylor mention injuries to us now. Guess it's different now.

Are you kidding?

What has this team done since 2005?

Sheens gate, Farah gate, Benji gate, injury gate, defence gate, Board gate, Potter gate.

I am running out of gates!!!!

Maybe that's the problem with our defence (or should that be "de-fence"), too many gates for the other team to run through…

 

[Mccarry]

Worse coach/fit ever, these days are more depressing than supporting Balmain in the 90s

He has been the worst I have ever seen.

All I can hope is that he somehow wakes up to himself or the board fixes the issue. I've never watched such low quality footy.

You surely are both kidding, right?

I'll cop criticism of the 2015 side and JT as a coach, because it is justified. But to say it is worse than Balmain in the 90s, that this is the lowest-quality footy you've ever seen from the Tigers, only shows that you don't have a good memory of those times.

I was a teenager then, and we fielded some very very ordinary teams, teams where many of our first-choice players were not first-grade quality, and we came up against clubs like Broncos who were brimming with representative talent.

I remember games where we were simply happy not to be lapped, where a 20 point loss was a decent achievement, because it was not a 50-point loss. I remember boring 2-point wins, in the mud at Leichhardt, where both teams could do nothing except drop the footy. I remember thinking that winning 50% of our games was a huge achievement. I remember bright, warm, sunny afternoons at LO where the attendance was borderline 5000 people. I remember coming last in 1994 and being very very close to being ejected from the competition after the Super League war.

The Balmain Tigers post 1993 were a thoroughly ordinary and mostly disappointing side.

In 1993 Balmain won 6/22 games, and we still had rep players like Elias, Siro and Brasher going around. Same year Wests were no better, winning 7/22 games.

In 1994 Balmain won 4/22 games, including a 10-game losing streak where we were outscored 108-306.

In 1998 Balmain won 5 out of the first 6, then won 4 out of the next 18.

In 1999 Wests won 3/24 games, with a season-concluding losing streak of 12 (one of the worst season's I have ever witnessed).

Between 1993 and 1999 Balmain won 55 games, drew 2, lost 101 (35%).

By all means, give constructive criticism about the way the current team operates, but do so with the understanding that your expectations have vastly increased, and that you expect the team to be eager and competitive every single week, to be a chance to win every match. Some perspective, please.

Good post. I agree. We are way better off than pre merge.

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[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Those that bought memberships expecting a quick fix and bright entertaining football were delusional.

I've still not worked out what it was they were so hell bent on trying to fix. There were no problems until injuries and the "Smith-gate" saga.

I notice last night I heard Taylor mention injuries to us now. Guess it's different now.

Are you kidding?

What has this team done since 2005?

Sheens gate, Farah gate, Benji gate, injury gate, defence gate, Board gate, Potter gate.

I am running out of gates!!!!

I'm not talking about since 05\. I'm talking about last year. We had a new coach and a team going pretty ok, in the 8, a threat, and then in comes Smith. Farah has a hissy fit because he knows better than the coach, and Payten white ants away seeing an opportunity for a head coaching gig. But in reality, on field performance last year was looking the goods until Smith was invited to share his infinite wisdom. Great decision that one from Mayer. Nothing more than a clash of personalities in my opinion given the famous eye roll. Then he used his position to shift a hamstrung coach for what we have now. Lets see what we hear as we crawl to the finish line. Not all bad, defense is improving, better than last year, a way to go, blah, blah, blah….when does the cricket season start? :brick:

I agree.

The most important factor was that Potter brought a new style to the Tigers that after the Sheens years was really needed.

It was a tough forward based game, pretty simple just involved continuous big men, collisions and effort. The backs were allowed to play what was in front of them off the back of that momentum.

The club didnt have a massive problem like Taylor and co like to make out, we had injury issues, player factions and some strength and conditioning and support staff changes that needed to be made.

Here we are under Taylor and a lot has changed but as yet nothing has changed as far as results go.

Lets hope tonight is the start.

 

[851]

Taylor and his flat out boring game plan better change and change tonight, or else JT might find himself inundated with media asking questions that he has no answer for.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

So why has Sironen been playing with a bulging discuss and no strength in his arm?

Performance is more important then results ay, we'll sadly that spin doesn't work cos our performances are actually worse than the actual results

And did anyone actually think that Nofa looked completely fit in his comeback game???