Taylor

[EndlessPassion]

The biggest issue is the money that Robbie is on. But I'm sick of people blaming Robbie for this. The wests tigers admin signed him to that and we shouldn't be turning on Robbie cause he wants his money. How many people would turn their back on money. Wests tigers should give him his farewell so us fans can say thankyou.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

yes ,agree with you chris.

taylor contradicts himself when he talks about farah not being in the top 17.

rankin,lovett,kevvie should have been dropped before farah,if form is the yardstick.

taylors rhetoric is a bore.he says a thousand things without saying anything.he should put a media ban on himself as well as the players.

let pascoe do the post game conferences,or the team captain.

Except Taylor isn't talking about form, he's constantly espoused team cohesion. That's not the same as form. You can have one player who plays outstanding to the detriment of the team, as opposed to a lesser individually talented player who allows those around him to play to their best.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

The biggest issue is the money that Robbie is on. But I'm sick of people blaming Robbie for this. The wests tigers admin signed him to that and we shouldn't be turning on Robbie cause he wants his money. How many people would turn their back on money. Wests tigers should give him his farewell so us fans can say thankyou.

I don't think that is the major issue. Whatever Farah decides to do, Wests have to pay out the contract or a significant portion and additionally, it still counts in the salary cap.

This is primarily a cultural issue. The team is going through the final stages of a generational change that began at the end of 2012.

 

[Tigertigertiger]

I hope Lovett gets dumped after yesterday's performance, he was dead set woeful….

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

In regard to money, can we stop talking like Farah will be shortchanged if he goes? He will be no worse off.

He will not leave Wests unless whatever another club plus what we make the difference up of is equal or more to what he should get here. If he stays here, he gets what he is owed paid straight out of Wests salary cap.

He has an economics degree, no way will he leave for less money. If we aren't offering enough to carry over what he is owed here at the very minimum, he will not go. It is as simple as that.

 

[Telltails]

Taylor frustrates the hell out of me. He has got the nucleus of something very special right in front of him but is so consumed with ousting Farah that there is no way he can possibly have his mind on the job of getting the most from the players.
Bugger the future - you and Farah will both not be there - coach what you have got in front of you now for God sake.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I hope Lovett gets dumped after yesterday's performance, he was dead set woeful….

He's been woeful all season.

 

[Nelson]

In regard to money, can we stop talking like Farah will be shortchanged if he goes? He will be no worse off.

He will not leave Wests unless whatever another club plus what we make the difference up of is equal or more to what he should get here. If he stays here, he gets what he is owed paid straight out of Wests salary cap.

He has an economics degree, no way will he leave for less money. If we aren't offering enough to carry over what he is owed here at the very minimum, he will not go. It is as simple as that.

Don't bother, it's been stated hundreds of times on here already, some people just don't want to listen…

 

[Club_Sandwich]

I hope Lovett gets dumped after yesterday's performance, he was dead set woeful….

X2.
He was playing in the centres for a bit though, which is a baffling decision. But when he was playing in the forwards he was abysmal. I think it's time he was dropped and Sirro got another shot

 

[rialto]

To me the main thing today was winning and not imploding.

We won comfortably and whilst the opposition was poor we defended well and had some adversity during the game.

It was not great but it was a whole lot better then what we dished up a couple of years ago in similar circumstances.

Eddie, never thought I would start agreeing with you ( on some things anyway) but you have posted some reasonable balanced views of late.

 

[Telltails]

In regard to money, can we stop talking like Farah will be shortchanged if he goes? He will be no worse off.

He will not leave Wests unless whatever another club plus what we make the difference up of is equal or more to what he should get here. If he stays here, he gets what he is owed paid straight out of Wests salary cap.

He has an economics degree, no way will he leave for less money. If we aren't offering enough to carry over what he is owed here at the very minimum, he will not go. It is as simple as that.

Don't bother, it's been stated hundreds of times on here already, some people just don't want to listen…

It all depends how much of the difference the WTs are prepared to pay. In their wisdom dropping him to reserve grade certainly does nothing to increase his appeal to other clubs if anything it devalues his worth.

If they are that desperate to get rid of him and he is deemed not good enough for our FG team pay what you owe him and get rid of him now.
But they can't afford that so instead treat him like an outcast, revealing exactly how desperate the club is to be rid of him. If you were another club after that how. much would you offer for hooker that is not good enough for the first grade squad at West s Tigers?
They want to force him out but don't want to pay the contract out, simple as that.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

In regard to money, can we stop talking like Farah will be shortchanged if he goes? He will be no worse off.

He will not leave Wests unless whatever another club plus what we make the difference up of is equal or more to what he should get here. If he stays here, he gets what he is owed paid straight out of Wests salary cap.

He has an economics degree, no way will he leave for less money. If we aren't offering enough to carry over what he is owed here at the very minimum, he will not go. It is as simple as that.

Don't bother, it's been stated hundreds of times on here already, some people just don't want to listen…

It all depends how much of the difference the WTs are prepared to pay. In their wisdom dropping him to reserve grade certainly does nothing to increase his appeal to other clubs if anything it devalues his worth.

If they are that desperate to get rid of him and he is deemed not good enough for our FG team pay what you owe him and get rid of him now.
But they can't afford that so instead treat him like an outcast, revealing exactly how desperate the club is to be rid of him. If you were another club after that how. much would you offer for hooker that is not good enough for the first grade squad at West s Tigers?
They want to force him out but don't want to pay the contract out, simple as that.

And Farah will not leave if he is to be shortchanged. Why is this so hard to grasp?

 

[rialto]

When Taylor is in the same league as bennett, bellamy,hasler or toovey-I would accept his judgment. he is wet behind the ears & has had no success at any other club. We got him cheaply and you get what you pay for.

Taylor coached Souths into the finals after they had been on the bottom of the ladder for
Many many years.

When Taylor took over from Smith as interim head coach at Parra when they were almost at the bottom of the ladder he coached them to 11 straight wins!

When the Roosters won the Premiership and the GF he was Robinsons right hand man.

 

[Telltails]

In regard to money, can we stop talking like Farah will be shortchanged if he goes? He will be no worse off.

He will not leave Wests unless whatever another club plus what we make the difference up of is equal or more to what he should get here. If he stays here, he gets what he is owed paid straight out of Wests salary cap.

He has an economics degree, no way will he leave for less money. If we aren't offering enough to carry over what he is owed here at the very minimum, he will not go. It is as simple as that.[/quote
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Don't bother, it's been stated hundreds of times on here already, some people just don't want to listen…

It all depends how much of the difference the WTs are
prepared to pay. In their wisdom dropping him to reserve grade certainly does nothing to increase his appeal to other clubs if anything it devalues his worth.

If they are that desperate to get rid of him and he is deemed not good enough for our FG team pay what you owe him and get rid of him now.
But they can't afford that so instead treat him like an outcast, revealing exactly how desperate the club is to be rid of him. If you were another club after that how. much would you offer for hooker that is not goodenough for the first grade squad at West s Tigers?
They want to force him out but don't want to pay the contract out, simple as that.

And Farah will not leave if he is to be shortchanged. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Isn't the point of this exercise to get him out? What kind of organisation is happy to have a player in reserve grade on $900 year.
Use him properly as a player or do your best to sell him and recoup something.

 

[Nelson]

It all depends how much of the difference the WTs are prepared to pay. In their wisdom dropping him to reserve grade certainly does nothing to increase his appeal to other clubs if anything it devalues his worth.

If they are that desperate to get rid of him and he is deemed not good enough for our FG team pay what you owe him and get rid of him now.
But they can't afford that so instead treat him like an outcast, revealing exactly how desperate the club is to be rid of him. If you were another club after that how. much would you offer for hooker that is not good enough for the first grade squad at West s Tigers?
They want to force him out but don't want to pay the contract out, simple as that.

But that overlooks the other problem they have, which is getting him out the door. Presumably they've tried negotiating to have him look elsewhere and it hasn't worked, so they feel the need to dump him to reggies to encourage him to move along. Sure it shows their desperation to move him on, but if another club wants Farah they're not going to be discouraged from picking him up (at this point in time) just because he's in reggies at the Tigers - few if any actually believe he belongs there on form. Further, the Tigers would know that the NRL would not register Farah at another club for less than say $300K, so they can bank on that floor in his value.

They've handled it badly from the start though. Threats were never going to work well with Farah, they needed to come up with a more creative solution to moving him on (if that's what they really wanted to do). Something that he wouldn't have taken as a mark of disrespect.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If they are that desperate to get rid of him and he is deemed not good enough for our FG team pay what you owe him and get rid of him now.
But they can't afford that so instead treat him like an outcast, revealing exactly how desperate the club is to be rid of him. If you were another club after that how. much would you offer for hooker that is not goodenough for the first grade squad at West s Tigers?
They want to force him out but don't want to pay the contract out, simple as that.

And Farah will not leave if he is to be shortchanged. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Isn't the point of this exercise to get him out? What kind of organisation is happy to have a player in reserve grade on $900 year.
Use him properly as a player or do your best to sell him and recoup something.

There's only two scenarios here:

- Another club makes an offer that WT seems reasonable to offset the balance of to ensure Farah gets what he's owed at WT at the minimum;
- Another club does not make such an offer, that Farah will stay until his contract is up with WT.

There's no other scenario. Farah will not go unless he gets what is owed. He will stay at WT and not play, or play reserve grade.

Farah will not leave for less than what he is owed. If another club is offering 450K, we'll have to offset the rest of what he's owed. And despite how I feel about him in this whole affair, he shouldn't go anywhere else and be financially disadvantaged, he should get what he would get here at a minimum.

 

[coopy]

Yesterday didn't really prove anything to me. We scored 25 pints without Robbie against a reasonable defensive team and only let in 12 points (but their attack was terrible) rarely if ever do teams miss 33 tackles and only give away two tries. I think Robbie's exclusion from the team has no meaningful bearing on the result.

It's interesting to read people now saying that Robbie was dropped due to "culture". If this is truly the case, then WT should pay him out and send him away now. If he is only going to play reserve grade for next season then there is not much to lose.

FWIW I don't think the Tigers can afford to kiss goodbye to that much cap space. They obviously want him to go but retain some cap relief hence they're crying out for a team to take him….sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it as well.

 

[Telltails]

If they are that desperate to get rid of him and he is deemed not good enough for our FG team pay what you owe him and get rid of him now.
But they can't afford that so instead treat him like an outcast, revealing exactly how desperate the club is to be rid of him. If you were another club after that how. much would you offer for hooker that is not goodenough for the first grade squad at West s Tigers?
They want to force him out but don't want to pay the contract out, simple as that.[/quote
And Farah will not leave if he is to be shortchanged. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Isn't the point of this exercise to get him out? What kind of organisation is happy to have a player in reserve grade on $900 year.
Use him properly as a player or do your best to sell him and recoup something.

There's only two scenarios here:

- Another club makes an offer that WT seems reasonable to offset the balance of to ensure Farah gets what he's owed at WT at the minimum;
- Another club does not make such an offer, that Farah will stay until his contract is up with WT.

There's no other scenario. Farah will not go unless hegets what is owed. He will stay at WT and not play, or play reserve grade.

Farah will not leave for less than what he is owed. If another club is offering 450K, we'll have to offset the rest of what he's owed. And despite how I feel about him in this whole affair, he shouldn't go anywhere else and be financially disadvantaged, he should get what he would get here at a minimum.

I guess the question now is did dropping him give him the final push that was needed or did it fuel his fire further ?
No doubt more to come with this ongoing saga.

 

[tigerman80]

yes ,agree with you chris.

taylor contradicts himself when he talks about farah not being in the top 17.

rankin,lovett,kevvie should have been dropped before farah,if form is the yardstick.

taylors rhetoric is a bore.he says a thousand things without saying anything.he should put a media ban on himself as well as the players.

let pascoe do the post game conferences,or the team captain.

Except Taylor isn't talking about form, he's constantly espoused team cohesion. That's not the same as form. You can have one player who plays outstanding to the detriment of the team, as opposed to a lesser individually talented player who allows those around him to play to their best.

If what your saying is true why was Farah not dropped at the start of the year when it didnt look like he was gelling with the halves and we lost a few gsmes with him. Why drop him when we have won our last 2 games with him coming of the bench and have scored over 30 points in both games. There is no consistency in his argument. Its either 1 personal and Taylor wants him gone, or 2 the club is throwing Taylor under a bus to get rid of both of them.The thing is Farah is going no where if he is left short changed. I cant begrudge him that because i know if my employer owed me money id be getting every cent they owed me out of them.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

yes ,agree with you chris.

taylor contradicts himself when he talks about farah not being in the top 17.

rankin,lovett,kevvie should have been dropped before farah,if form is the yardstick.

taylors rhetoric is a bore.he says a thousand things without saying anything.he should put a media ban on himself as well as the players.

let pascoe do the post game conferences,or the team captain.

Except Taylor isn't talking about form, he's constantly espoused team cohesion. That's not the same as form. You can have one player who plays outstanding to the detriment of the team, as opposed to a lesser individually talented player who allows those around him to play to their best.

If what your saying is true why was Farah not dropped at the start of the year when it didnt look like he was gelling with the halves and we lost a few gsmes with him. Why drop him when we have won our last 2 games with him coming of the bench and have scored over 30 points in both games. There is no consistency in his argument. Its either 1 personal and Taylor wants him gone, or 2 the club is throwing Taylor under a bus to get rid of both of them.The thing is Farah is going no where if he is left short changed. I cant begrudge him that because i know if my employer owed me money id be getting every cent they owed me out of them.

I don't know why, but it seems some are misrepresenting what he's saying. He said Farah was dropped due to cohesion. There's probably other issues sure, but when the coach cites team dynamic as the excuse for dropping a player, form of other players becomes a redundant argument because form was not the reason given for the player that was dropped.