The “secret meeting” results 🤫

[Tucker]

The best part of 360 last night was Braith telling Buzz that he really doesn't have a clue when it comes to players' ability. He pointed out that Buzz only thinks Fainu is special because other people said so and mocked him.

I loved when he said that.
There are tonnes on here suffering in the same way.
That origin game was the first time I saw Latu play…and colour me unimpressed. He wouldn’t help here at all.

 

[colinbh]

Honestly, listen to yourself. If you’ve been paying attention, this club is run by morons.

Let’s think about what you’re saying and look at possible scenarios.


1. Brooks management on day one of negation gave the club 24 hours to put and offer in


Or


2. The club kept moving timelines, not keeping with deadlines and brooks management had enough and gave an ultimatum.


Which one is more likely?

The club offered Brooks what they considered a fair offer. Brooks management indicated that it would be accepted. A couple of weeks later they indicated that if the club made a slightly bigger offer all would be well. At this stage Wests asked for a decision within a few days. Brooks stated that he would be leaving.

In my opinion Wests did everything that was asked of them. The upgraded offer was used to force Manly to pay Brooks more money.

It appears that he was never going to renew his contract no matter what Wests had done. I would have thought that most of the people on this forum would be doing handstands that Brooks was leaving. Apparently not! Their chief punching bag has gone, so let's punch our club instead.

We should encourage our club and players to do better. Not denigrate and chastise.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

The club offered Brooks what they considered a fair offer. Brooks management indicated that it would be accepted. A couple of weeks later they indicated that if the club made a slightly bigger offer all would be well. At this stage Wests asked for a decision within a few days. Brooks stated that he would be leaving.

In my opinion Wests did everything that was asked of them. The upgraded offer was used to force Manly to pay Brooks more money.

It appears that he was never going to renew his contract no matter what Wests had done. I would have thought that most of the people on this forum would be doing handstands that Brooks was leaving. Apparently not! Their chief punching bag has gone, so let's punch our club instead.

We should encourage our club and players to do better. Not denigrate and chastise.

I couldn’t be happier with Brooks gone.

My issue is, the club allegedly wanted to keep him. A guy who’s played for a decade with them and they bumbled it.

Either they actually didn’t want to keep him and low balled him/ strung him a long to make brooks leave or they wanted to keep him and again, completely screwed up negotiations.

If they didn’t want him and at the same time let Hastings go it’s incompetence. If they wanted him but stuffed up the offer / duration it’s incompetence.

I’m not sure what people are missing in all of this, for mine it’s a huge red flag on how shit and ill-equipped these muppets are. It’s not about BROOKS.

 

[Tucker]

The club offered Brooks what they considered a fair offer. Brooks management indicated that it would be accepted. A couple of weeks later they indicated that if the club made a slightly bigger offer all would be well. At this stage Wests asked for a decision within a few days. Brooks stated that he would be leaving.
In my opinion Wests did everything that was asked of them. The upgraded offer was used to force Manly to pay Brooks more money.

What you’ve said is the newspaper version of what happened.
Lee said last night that the club’s offer was based on advice. They didn’t consider it a fair offer, they were told it’s a fair offer by a third party. He didn’t elaborate on where this advice came from, but certainly indicated that the board felt that Luke’s management was taking advantage of the situation and that’s why they demanded an answer.

It was a poorly thought out and conducted retention process. They sought advice on what he’d take, and that’s what they offered. When it was rejected, they bumped it up apparently..again this is from Lee last night. At no stage does it appear apparent that they had any contingent plans should he reject their offer. In the end, they were way off what he ended up signing for and now are scrambling to find someone to replace him.

It appears that he was never going to renew his contract no matter what Wests had done. I would have thought that most of the people on this forum would be doing handstands that Brooks was leaving. Apparently not! Their chief punching bag has gone, so let's punch our club instead.
We should encourage our club and players to do better. Not denigrate and chastise.

If you read the room and listened to what Luke has been saying about his future for over a year now, you would have been fairly certain that he was going to leave. His body language was poor, he never spoke of long term strategies and even stated on several occasions that he would likely be ‘selfish’ on his next contract negotiations. Fans assumed that meant money. It clearly meant escaping the toxic fishbowl he’d been swimming in for a decade.

I was one of many who did not want him as our halfback. I’ve been saying, as have many others, for a long long time now that he is a running 6 not an organising 7. That said, I was shocked at how low our offer reportedly was…and that was the upgraded offer! I though we obviously had someone else coming here to lowball him like that and then put a time limit on his answer.
Nope. We just stuffed it up royally. This is not the first time this has happened. The club deserves its chastising for that and Lee cannot bullshit his way out of it even though he had a decent crack at it last night.

 

[hank37w]

I loved when he said that.
There are tonnes on here suffering in the same way.
That origin game was the first time I saw Latu play…and colour me unimpressed. He wouldn’t help here at all.

One of those Ethan guys would be a better option.

 

[Curaeus]

When Lee The Hat speaks, all lesser mortals must accept the great mans words without demur. Old Buzz seemed even more confused than usual!

 

[Tom Shines]

When Lee The Hat speaks, all lesser mortals must accept the great mans words without demur. Old Buzz seemed even more confused than usual!

Buzz has to go a bit easy as he is thinking about his next free lunch with Lee

 

[Tucker]

Buzz has to go a bit easy as he is thinking about his next free lunch with Lee

He was very measured in what he said. Some things he said so slowly you could see the gears behind his eyes turning.

 

[hank37w]

Love the way Lee dresses up to channel different characters like Inspector Gadget, depression era gangsters etc.

Last night on NRL 360 with his deeply creased hat and red jacket he looked like he was channeling a Royal Canadian Mountie.

Didn't see a shot of him below the waist but it would have been appropriate if he was wearing poop catchers which would be handy because he's always full of shit.

 

[diedpretty]

Actually, he was being quite specific. His point was that after Brooks' management had put a deadline on the club to make an offer, they put a deadline on a decision 3 weeks after the contract offer. 3 days is irrelevant- the Brooks management had the offer for weeks.

This is what gets me with fans. If the Tigers had let this drag on, and we were still waiting on a decision- we'd be blowing up deluxe calling them incompetant. If Brooks had signed? There'd be riots that the club had stuck with the 'dud' even though he's hopeless. Instead, the Tigers don't outbid themselves, they put a timeline on after it drags out, and Brooks signs for Manly for more than the Tigers offered.

Still not happy.

I agree - most of the negative comments on here are from the usual biased crowd. He answered their questions without a slip up. Didn't allow any crap talk. Some on here saying he Bs'd about Brooks deadline. I didn't see it that way - he told it as it was - offer made Brooks rejected it and said make a higher offer which they did and were led to believe it would be accepted - over a week later no answer. Obviously realising they were being played they put a deadline on the offer and lo behold Brooks signs with Manly. The deadline had nothing to do with it. The realisation that they were being played was spot on.

 

[diedpretty]

Not at all. He completely denied the time period. He then defended why they put the time period on.

I’m not sure if you watched it but he was straight caught out lying and then tried to cover it up. We will never know if brooks felt disrespected by the clock, all we have to work on is the facts. Tonight this clown said
no, we did not put a expiration date on the offer. When presented with more facts that they indeed did, he tried to defend the reasoning by suggesting the dribble you posted.

Ultimately the guy doubled down on being deceptive and full of double speak.

Rubbish - you need to watch it again. When first asked by Read was there a deadline put on him and he specifically said Thursday to Sunday, Hagipantellis answer was " Absolutely". The rest was the reasoning behind the deadline and the fact the offer had been on the table for a period that was considered long enough considering Brooks management had intimated the offer would be accepted. I can't stand Hagipantellis but i saw nothing whatsoever come close to what you are asserting. Your bias is way over the top.

 

[Kelce68]

I loved when he said that.
There are tonnes on here suffering in the same way.
That origin game was the first time I saw Latu play…and colour me unimpressed. He wouldn’t help here at all.

You need a bigger sample size.

 

[colinbh]

What you’ve said is the newspaper version of what happened.
Lee said last night that the club’s offer was based on advice. They didn’t consider it a fair offer, they were told it’s a fair offer by a third party. He didn’t elaborate on where this advice came from, but certainly indicated that the board felt that Luke’s management was taking advantage of the situation and that’s why they demanded an answer.

It was a poorly thought out and conducted retention process. They sought advice on what he’d take, and that’s what they offered. When it was rejected, they bumped it up apparently..again this is from Lee last night. At no stage does it appear apparent that they had any contingent plans should he reject their offer. In the end, they were way off what he ended up signing for and now are scrambling to find someone to replace him.

If you read the room and listened to what Luke has been saying about his future for over a year now, you would have been fairly certain that he was going to leave. His body language was poor, he never spoke of long term strategies and even stated on several occasions that he would likely be ‘selfish’ on his next contract negotiations. Fans assumed that meant money. It clearly meant escaping the toxic fishbowl he’d been swimming in for a decade.

I was one of many who did not want him as our halfback. I’ve been saying, as have many others, for a long long time now that he is a running 6 not an organising 7. That said, I was shocked at how low our offer reportedly was…and that was the upgraded offer! I though we obviously had someone else coming here to lowball him like that and then put a time limit on his answer.
Nope. We just stuffed it up royally. This is not the first time this has happened. The club deserves its chastising for that and Lee cannot bullshit his way out of it even though he had a decent crack at it last night.

I stated what was said last night. No newspaper involved. I do not know what you were watching but what you stated is rubbish I suggest you watch the interview again, this time without your biased glasses .

 

[diedpretty]

What you’ve said is the newspaper version of what happened.
Lee said last night that the club’s offer was based on advice. They didn’t consider it a fair offer, they were told it’s a fair offer by a third party. He didn’t elaborate on where this advice came from, but certainly indicated that the board felt that Luke’s management was taking advantage of the situation and that’s why they demanded an answer.

It was a poorly thought out and conducted retention process. They sought advice on what he’d take, and that’s what they offered. When it was rejected, they bumped it up apparently..again this is from Lee last night. At no stage does it appear apparent that they had any contingent plans should he reject their offer. In the end, they were way off what he ended up signing for and now are scrambling to find someone to replace him.

If you read the room and listened to what Luke has been saying about his future for over a year now, you would have been fairly certain that he was going to leave. His body language was poor, he never spoke of long term strategies and even stated on several occasions that he would likely be ‘selfish’ on his next contract negotiations. Fans assumed that meant money. It clearly meant escaping the toxic fishbowl he’d been swimming in for a decade.

I was one of many who did not want him as our halfback. I’ve been saying, as have many others, for a long long time now that he is a running 6 not an organising 7. That said, I was shocked at how low our offer reportedly was…and that was the upgraded offer! I though we obviously had someone else coming here to lowball him like that and then put a time limit on his answer.
Nope. We just stuffed it up royally. This is not the first time this has happened. The club deserves its chastising for that and Lee cannot bullshit his way out of it even though he had a decent crack at it last night.

I don't know what show you were watching but that is just total BS. At no stage did Lee say or intimate that Brooks offer was on advice and that the offer was considered fair by a 3rd party. This is the trouble with this forum lately. People just pushing their own agendas and making up crap to back up their point of view.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Rubbish - you need to watch it again. When first asked by Read was there a deadline put on him and he specifically said Thursday to Sunday, Hagipantellis answer was " Absolutely". The rest was the reasoning behind the deadline and the fact the offer had been on the table for a period that was considered long enough considering Brooks management had intimated the offer would be accepted. I can't stand Hagipantellis but i saw nothing whatsoever come close to what you are asserting. Your bias is way over the top.

Huh?

Why did Read specifically ask about the Thursday - Sunday? Because he originally asked “ was there a deadline in place. The joker said no. Read gave more detail and the joker saw he was cornered and then agreed there was a deadline.


I’m at a loss that anyone could defend this guy. I swear to god there are some sadist in WT ranks that get pleasure from pain.

 

[Tucker]

You need a bigger sample size.

That’s true, but you can only go off what you see and I saw a guy who doesn’t get involved enough and may have an attitude problem.
I don’t want to give him the sort of money that’s being bandied about.
Halfback is the primary target.

 

[diedpretty]

Huh?

Why did Read specifically ask about the Thursday - Sunday? Because he originally asked “ was there a deadline in place. The joker said no. Read gave more detail and the joker saw he was cornered and then agreed there was a deadline.


I’m at a loss that anyone could defend this guy. I swear to god there are some sadist in WT ranks that get pleasure from pain.

He didn't say no at all - he said Absolutely - after seeing stuff being written on here that i thought was wrong i went back and watched it again - he never denied there was a deadline. I'm not defending him - i can't stand him. But to just put stuff up that is blatantly false just because you don't like the guy is wrong.

 

[coivtny]

He didn't 'deny' it, He was arguing it wasn't 3 days...
And it seems it wasn't.
Also mentioned that Brooks management demanded the offer inside 24hrs
(Nobody has mentioned that)

If someone demanded an offer inside 24hrs, It would be a given you'd expect a timely response to the offer...
The deadline was imposed after Brooks had the offer for weeks (After demanding it be presented inside 1 day)

I think we're crazy to let Brooks go, But we were only ever fuel for a better offer....
Lee made that obviously clear last night if you listen to it...

Totally agree. I'm not a fan of Lee H at all but I thought he explained the Brooks situation quite well and, as far as I can see, WT have nothing to be apologetic for at all. And, if it comes to whether I'm more inclined to believe Lee H or Moses, it's a no-brainer. Moses is not to be trusted.

 

[Tucker]

I stated what was said last night. No newspaper involved. I do not know what you were watching but what you stated is rubbish I suggest you watch the interview again, this time without your biased glasses .

Call it what you will. You are reading it wrong.
Lee kept saying words to the effect we were lead to believe, the indicators were there etc. You may take it that Luke’s manager was lying to them I don’t. I don’t believe his manager said give me an offer in the 5 hundreds and we’ll take it.
Someone else was in the boards ear telling them that’s what he is worth.

 

[Kelce68]

That’s true, but you can only go off what you see and I saw a guy who doesn’t get involved enough and may have an attitude problem.
I don’t want to give him the sort of money that’s being bandied about.
Halfback is the primary target.

I agree.

But you can only buy what's on the shelf.

And given the halves market contains very little, a five-eighth prospect touted as one of the best in the country would be a good idea to pursue, concurrent with a continued search for a long overdue decent halfback.