Nucky_Thompson
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THE 4......THREAD
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goldcoast_tiger
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I agree with that. But there seems to be a deathly quiet when it comes to the amount of complaints about 4 people holding a gun at the clubs head when it comes to employing a coach.
I'm not sure if they want Taylor or not. But others who have supposedly thought that the Coach couldnt coach,but were extremely vilified here, but these players seem to be untouchable.
Funny I can't remember RF holding the gun and saying that he'd leave if he didn't get what he wanted.
Yet a group of players , two of which are less that stars , seem to be doing that. If the stories are correct
I actually don't have a problem with senior players , being at least consulted about the Coaching appointments, ( especially the Captain )it's more the hypocrisy of those who were willing to hang one player, yet are remarkably quite now . When it may be happening.
I thought that all our problems were one blokes fault.
It looks like Groundhog Day is here again.
Who do we hang this time?
Mighty_Tiger
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Apples and oranges.
Farah was pivotal in punting a few.
The top 4 want to know who the coach will be before committing their future. It's clear they want to stay but if JT or someone else joins it makes sense to know who will be leading the group.
Inhaven't heard or seen anything about JT staying being a negative, it's been the opposite. Previously with Farah that was far from the case. In saying that Incouldn't see them staying if we went another rookie coach as the players want to develope thier games which is natural. It would be JT or someone like Des/Bellamy/Robinson etc if they stay.
At the end of the day if JT can step up and get the team to perform now he will be safe, the big 4… will stay. If he doesn't then he shouldn't stay, we need to recruit a new coach and I doubt the big 4 will be consulted in that process....
MacDougall
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See my thread on the main forum for my opinion on JT.
I would be signing a new coach as a priority for before round 6\. Let JT see out the year if he wants to. If not put a caretaker coach in place for the season. I would then tell Brooks he is not required. Table a huge offer to Tedesco. A lifetime deal for Woods and a strong but not stupid offer to Moses.
If we lose Brooks and Moses tbh I won't lose sleep.
I would be signing a new coach as a priority for before round 6\. Let JT see out the year if he wants to. If not put a caretaker coach in place for the season. I would then tell Brooks he is not required. Table a huge offer to Tedesco. A lifetime deal for Woods and a strong but not stupid offer to Moses.
If we lose Brooks and Moses tbh I won't lose sleep.
goldcoast_tiger
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so it's ok for them to threaten to go if they don't agree on a coach
How selective is that
Actually there hasn't been anything to say that they do or don't support Jt.
They just want it their way whatever that is.
What happens next time if they aren't satisfied with who's here.
Hypocrisy is alive right here.
supercoach
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I have not read anything about Nofoaluma wanting some say in who is coaching in 2017\. If I was about to be coming off contract I would asking what outside backs and back rowers are they trying to sign because they will never get out of the cellar to they do
Harvey
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The tigers are not exactly known for the massive spending on the football department. If we spend to much on the coach, we may end up with a centre of mediocrity.
innsaneink
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Players off contact usually pull out something extra… Usually kill it in renegotiating year.
They were good in round one.... Did themselves no harm $$$ wise... Negated it all last week
Back to square one
They were good in round one.... Did themselves no harm $$$ wise... Negated it all last week
Back to square one
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Yes they do, if they're actually good enough.
I like Moses and I don't mind Brooks, but the big 4 tag is misplaced on them. Only Woods and Tedesco could be classed as elite players imo and they have the consistency in their games to warrant it - the other 2 don't.
hahahahaha
There are some sensitive types around these parts. There's been about one or two stories where no one aside from Woods has been quoted even mentioning the coach.
For Farah to even get brought up is ridiculous.
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Tedesco is exemplary with the media and considering the amount of false praise and fake friends he'd have coming towards him every time he leaves his home, seems remarkably grounded. Moses is a cocky fella and if he got paid TPA for every time he said "I'm leaving it up to my manager" would likely get what he's reported to be asking. He's never brought the coach up. Luke Brooks would struggle in a 5th grade show-and-tell, he's that shy and has never brought the coach up negatively.
The 'big 4' is a convenient term created by the media. Tedesco and Woods are the only 'big' players we have, Moses has potential and Brooks less so. The amount people buy into this crap is hilarious!
There are some sensitive types around these parts. There's been about one or two stories where no one aside from Woods has been quoted even mentioning the coach.
For Farah to even get brought up is ridiculous.
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Tedesco is exemplary with the media and considering the amount of false praise and fake friends he'd have coming towards him every time he leaves his home, seems remarkably grounded. Moses is a cocky fella and if he got paid TPA for every time he said "I'm leaving it up to my manager" would likely get what he's reported to be asking. He's never brought the coach up. Luke Brooks would struggle in a 5th grade show-and-tell, he's that shy and has never brought the coach up negatively.
The 'big 4' is a convenient term created by the media. Tedesco and Woods are the only 'big' players we have, Moses has potential and Brooks less so. The amount people buy into this crap is hilarious!
Mighty_Tiger
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Lol.
What are you basing your hypocrisy on?
You come across as one of those who spends all their time looking between the sand grains that turn out the reading of life direction.
goldcoast_tiger
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How very deep :unamused: the hypocrisy is what you just read, but as you didn't understand it, Il try and simplify it.
Why is it OK to vilify one player for supposedly wanting to get rid of a coach that he thought couldn't Coach ( by the way, despite many here asking at times for some concrete evidence for this, I've never seen anyone reply with any at all) but think it's completely ok for 4 Players to try to force a decision on whose coaching next year, and by tying that together with a refusal to sign without getting a coach that suits them ( which is made pretty obvious by saying that they won't sign until they know) that's the hypocrisy
One thing I've never heard about the previous scapegoat was that he'l leave if he didn't get his own way, that's what our so called big four have implied
The way I read this is the players want it all their way. They know money is no issue for the Tigers however, they seem to lack faith in the coaching staff.
I believe they will stay but it will cost WT as they will have to hire a better coach. Cleary is the only one on the market that would be a sure thing.
I believe they will stay but it will cost WT as they will have to hire a better coach. Cleary is the only one on the market that would be a sure thing.
Wests Tigers' chances of retaining 'big four' plummet after mystery mentor's departure
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/wests-tigers-chances-of-retaining-big-four-plummet-after-mystery-mentors-departure-20170318-gv12nb.html
Wests Tigers' chances of retaining their "big four" off-contract stars have plummeted after negotiations to bring their mystery mentor to the club broke down.
Tigers powerbrokers were in talks to find a role for Joe Wehbe, known in football circles as the "football whisperer". Wehbe has been a sounding board for free agents Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses, James Tedesco and Aaron Woods, who are among a legion of NRL stars secretly seeking his counsel. Knowing of the bond between Wehbe and the quartet, Tigers officials realised his presence at the joint-venture outfit could be an inducement for them to re-sign.
Wehbe spent time with the entire Tigers squad some weeks ago on a trial basis in a pointer towards an ongoing role at Concord. It is understood that Woods, Tedesco, Moses and Brooks welcomed the move, to the point they were poised to put pen to paper and commit to the Tigers long term. However, there was some resistance to Wehbe's presence from some staffers, resulting in the property developer walking away from the club.
Wehbe's departure has angered the quartet and is a major setback in contract negotiations. It is one of several hiccups in signing discussions with Isaac Moses, a friend of Wehbe's and the manager of all four players.
The Tigers stars continue to consult with Wehbe, a peak performance coach during Stephen Kearney's stint with the New Zealand Test team, on their own time. Wehbe is an intensely private person and the players respect his wish to keep their sessions confidential. Kearney, while an assistant at the Broncos last year, brought Wehbe to Red Hill for a series of training sessions. However, any media queries about the man described as a "touch footy guru" were quickly shot down.
The Wehbe situation is one of several stumbling blocks the Tigers face in retaining their most valuable players. Coach Jason Taylor is also off contract and the players would prefer to know who they'll be playing under before deciding whether to recommit. The club has also been rocked by revelations from disgraced former centre Tim Simona, who claimed he took cocaine with teammates during mad Monday celebrations several years ago.
Rival clubs are prepared to make big-money approaches to the Tigers quarter, but the club is still hopeful of retaining them all. The players' preference is to remain together, but it remains to be seen whether that will eventuate.
The signatures of the quartet remain the priority, but the Tigers can't afford to be idle in the player market. Former Maroons forward Chris McQueen has met with club officials and is a strong chance of making the shift from the Titans back to Sydney.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/wests-tigers-chances-of-retaining-big-four-plummet-after-mystery-mentors-departure-20170318-gv12nb.html
Wests Tigers' chances of retaining their "big four" off-contract stars have plummeted after negotiations to bring their mystery mentor to the club broke down.
Tigers powerbrokers were in talks to find a role for Joe Wehbe, known in football circles as the "football whisperer". Wehbe has been a sounding board for free agents Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses, James Tedesco and Aaron Woods, who are among a legion of NRL stars secretly seeking his counsel. Knowing of the bond between Wehbe and the quartet, Tigers officials realised his presence at the joint-venture outfit could be an inducement for them to re-sign.
Wehbe spent time with the entire Tigers squad some weeks ago on a trial basis in a pointer towards an ongoing role at Concord. It is understood that Woods, Tedesco, Moses and Brooks welcomed the move, to the point they were poised to put pen to paper and commit to the Tigers long term. However, there was some resistance to Wehbe's presence from some staffers, resulting in the property developer walking away from the club.
Wehbe's departure has angered the quartet and is a major setback in contract negotiations. It is one of several hiccups in signing discussions with Isaac Moses, a friend of Wehbe's and the manager of all four players.
The Tigers stars continue to consult with Wehbe, a peak performance coach during Stephen Kearney's stint with the New Zealand Test team, on their own time. Wehbe is an intensely private person and the players respect his wish to keep their sessions confidential. Kearney, while an assistant at the Broncos last year, brought Wehbe to Red Hill for a series of training sessions. However, any media queries about the man described as a "touch footy guru" were quickly shot down.
The Wehbe situation is one of several stumbling blocks the Tigers face in retaining their most valuable players. Coach Jason Taylor is also off contract and the players would prefer to know who they'll be playing under before deciding whether to recommit. The club has also been rocked by revelations from disgraced former centre Tim Simona, who claimed he took cocaine with teammates during mad Monday celebrations several years ago.
Rival clubs are prepared to make big-money approaches to the Tigers quarter, but the club is still hopeful of retaining them all. The players' preference is to remain together, but it remains to be seen whether that will eventuate.
The signatures of the quartet remain the priority, but the Tigers can't afford to be idle in the player market. Former Maroons forward Chris McQueen has met with club officials and is a strong chance of making the shift from the Titans back to Sydney.
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Tiger4life
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Oh dear that is not good reading.
greatodensraven
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No quotes, no worries
happy_tiger
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Moses will kill it when he has a decent forward pack in front of him Mac
Losing him ,Tedesco or Woods would be the biggest mistake in the club's history
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