The Storm Rorting Super Thread.....

@MGB said:
I dislike the Storm as much anyone on here trust me, but this is bad news for the game, truly a massive kick in the guts that the game didn't need. The new TV rights deal is just around the corner and the NRL have just lost some leverage I would imagine.
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Actually, I dont think it is as bad as everyone thinks it will be. Yes, it confirms that cheating goes on, but you tell me a professional sport where cheating (or bending the rules) does not take place - e.g. a lot of people will not be surprised that Melbourne were/are cheating, but they will be surprised by the severity of the punishment and this is a good thing. The NRL have sent a very clear message that they will not tolerate cheating and are not afraid to go back however far it was and strip whatever accolades the club received (but did not earn).

As for the TV deal, the NRL markteing guru's are much smarter that me - so I wont tell them how to do their job - but if it were me I would use this incident to gain leverage. For example, I would say it demonstrates that the NRL is tough on cheats - if this had happened in the AFL (and I dont know if they ever have a salary cap) to say Geelong would they have acted as decisively as the NRL have? I would also say that this action will make clubs realise that the cost of being caught far outweighs the benefits of cheating, so it (i.e. large systemic breaches, small breaches will always be there, if for no other reason than human error) will be weeded out of the game over time. This inturn will improve the product going forward - as the salary cap will continue to level out the playing field and dominant dynasties such as Melbourne will be a thing of he past, etc. etc.

If it had been a match fixing scandal that would have been far worse as it damages the integrity of the entire league. This incident damages the club and News Ltd (although they are teflon coated) but actually improves the integrity of the league - as it demonstrates that the system for catching cheats works and the punishment will be severe if caught - as it was with the dogs.
 
I found out on my afternoon ride which happened to be past (Storm training ground) Princes Park! They were flocking like media vultures - ABC, 7, 9, FOX and 10 along with at least another 40 media and print journos. I happened to be wearing a Wests Tigers 2006 training shirt (High vis - bright orange) and couldn't help myself - I did a ride past in the background…

They tried to heard me away from the channel 10 live broadcast, but I snuck past - no time to stop and give Wests Tigers any free airtime!
 
@stryker said:
Who else do you think is involved here?

I suggest the Titans
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The Roosters for sure - I work with the Bro of a very well known player agent who says their the dirtiest of all, just yet to be caught…
 
Who cares if the Premierships have been stripped.!! We know that they won them.!!!

I have gone to the Grand Final the last 4 years and seen them win 2 Premierships. They were my greatest moments in Sport. You can't take that away from me Gallop. Those memories will last forever.

Chin up guys!!!

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Well done idiots, we all know that you WON those titles coz of an unfair advantage...no sympathy whatsoever with these morons...stick to afl.
 
@Spartan117 said:
@stryker said:
Who else do you think is involved here?

I suggest the Titans

The Roosters for sure - I work with the Bro of a very well known player agent who says their the dirtiest of all, just yet to be caught…
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They better be careful - might get stripped of the 2009 wooden spoon
 
I love the bai stand - they are so insular and think they're hated because they're from melbourne.

That's not true - they just can't see the bad things the Storm as a club has done on and off the field!
(They've worked hard to do some good things as well, I have to admit)

Any Sydney club that behaved like this would be despised, and called the Sydney Roosters…
 
I am suprised the nrl were up to the task and didn't give a slap on the wrist, good to see them follow through for once. Tough break for the fans though. Can't help but wonder how parra are under the cap this year with additions such as poore and tahu. Hopefully any club cheating gets caught.
 
Without Melbourne the game loses miliions in sponsorship and television rights, a big psrt of companies sponsoring teams and the game is how it reaches the 3 bggest cities in Australia if we were to lose the 2nd biggest city then basically slash the money on offer by half…

I believe that retrospectively there punishment is well deserved but not allowing them to accure points for this year is typically harsh it punishes teh fans and teh game in Melbourne more then anyone...

Also the Melbourne side play a massive part in the representative season how is this going to affect their performance at this level??

The thing that irks me the most about this is how can Melbourne be stripped of everything but when Canberra did it in teh 80's and early 90's they had nothing taken off them including a premiership win over Balmain in 89
 
Got in the car after work and news is all over the airwaves here in NZ. Massive! Unbelievable! Speechless!
 
One question, now I can't see the Storm losing every game from now on for the rest of the year, but how fair is it playing against them when they have a couple of extra high paid players than they shouldn't have? In theory Jeff Lima probably shouldn't be there and neither should Brett Finch probably.
 
This is huge.

I do have a concern over what the effect will be this season. With no chance of semifinal football, how much will their crowd figures drop? Members demanding money back? A club that already gets piggybacked financially now owes the NRL $1.6 million???
 
@Digeze said:
This is huge.

I do have a concern over what the effect will be this season. With no chance of semifinal football, how much will their crowd figures drop? Members demanding money back? A club that already gets piggybacked financially now owes the NRL $1.6 million???
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Yeah I just can't see how the Storm are going to be able to move forward, if at all. I personally don't want to see the Storm fold, but this could do the job.
 
Cut the Storm fans some slack.
Their clubs administrators are scum but don;t blame the fans.

There's a thread on their forum (the Bai Stand) for fans of other teams to post support.
Show them some respect and support as one league fan to another. Their club certainly hasn;t.
 
Dark day for Rugby League. I still think this shows the incompetence of the NRLs enforcement of the salary cap. As far as I know the Schubert only looks at the clubs books, when really he should be investigating the players – their accounts, assets, where they live, what car they are driving etc.

Eels & Manly fans arguing they should be awarded the premierships are kidding themselves. That'd be unfair to the clubs that the Storm beat in the prelims and semis. And what about Wests Tigers, who finished 9th in 2007 & 2009? If you cancel out the Storm it changes the outcome of the season completely.

This is going to go deeper too. The players, if they were aware that they were being paid outside the salary cap (and how could they possibly be unaware), what punishment will they be dealt? Bans? Fines? Unavailable for rep selection etc..
 
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Re: Melbourne win World Club Challenge

Postby Tigerdazz » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:15 pm

innsaneink wrote:Yet another trophy for the storm, as much as we love to hate em, theyre a class act
Looked a great game - saw most of the 1st half this morning before work…very tough, physical game
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Definately with you in hating them. I still think they are a waste. That playing talent that could be spread throughout NSW & QLD . I would rather a regional /country team from QLD or NSW or even New Guinea than Melbourne in the comp.

As manufactured as "The Monkeys" or " Spice Girls" or "Pussy Cat Dolls" , they have had a great deal of hype /exposure/onfield success. However they will NEVER have a decent fan base ( The population of Melbourne is second only to Sydney...their crowd figures ???.) They will be ( and have been ) an impost on ALL other NRL teams.

Yet the DAILY TELEGRAPH , and its " LEAGUE EXPERT ".. Phil Rothfield.. have made out as if the Melbourne Storm, and its players are the " PILLARS" of the competition...put on a pedestle the height of Centrepoint !!

Many years from now, if more Melbournians liked the game , played the game, sacrificed time, money ,blood sweat and tears for the game. If they created a culture, had a decent junior nursery and beyond else a community PASSION for the game, then I believe they'd deserve an NRL ( or any reincarnation of ) franchise.

As far as I am concerned. Any Melbourne Storm success , on field or off, is as ARTIFICIAL as the MELBOURNE STORM RLFC itself. And is a blight on the competition , and a kick in the guts and an insult to "REAL" League Clubs and their fans. And I haven't even started on News Ltds exit from the NRL and the Melbourne " Funding guarantee". :unamused:
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I said this earlier in the season.....and stand by it even more now !
 
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