There really is a God

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

…...... education was started through religion, religion is directly responsible for science. Science WAS religion.

Education was not started through religion but through the need to survive. Survival skills were carried down generation through generation just as the Australian Aborigines did until recent times. They did not have formal education or religion in the sense we know it and did not need it - they had and needed survival skills and nothing else.

Science was just the advancement of survival skills over time - for example the boomerang. I was taught in religion that the stars were holes in the floor of Heaven - and I at a very young age believed that rubbish. Religion was anti-science in my experience.

 

[stryker]

There may be a higher power or there may not be..it's all up to the individual.

One thing that I do believe though is that all the gods promoted through organised religions are probably no where near what the truth actually is. I say this as religion is the most evil paradigm ever conceived by mankind IMO.

I think there may well be a higher power of some form and that entity is embarrassed with how religions promote it.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

There may be a higher power or there may not be..it's all up to the individual.

One thing that I do believe though is that all the gods promoted through organised religions are probably no where near what the truth actually is. I say this as religion is the most evil paradigm ever conceived by mankind IMO.

I think there may well be a higher power of some form and that entity is embarrassed with how religions promote it.

But if there is that higher entity with knowledge and power and goodness it would/could change the evil paradigm - or if can but does not then pretty useless in a way.

 

[stryker]

It may not possess goodness. It may see us as a hobby and like a psycho kid with an ant farm, will one day just decide to wipe us out with extremely minimal effort.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

It may not possess goodness. It may see us as a hobby and like a psycho kid with an ant farm, will one day just decide to wipe us out with extremely minimal effort.

Not necessary, we are doing that ourselves with greenhouse effect - a slow cook and sizzle in pressurised crockpot. The car is our god - actually ourselves are our god with absolutely anything and everything available including end of life on the planet to satisfy our lust. A Catch 22, 23 & 24.

 

[happy_tiger]

It may not possess goodness. It may see us as a hobby and like a psycho kid with an ant farm, will one day just decide to wipe us out with extremely minimal effort.

Not necessary, we are doing that ourselves with greenhouse effect - a slow cook and sizzle in pressurised crockpot. The car is our god - actually ourselves are our god with absolutely anything and everything available including end of life on the planet to satisfy our lust. A Catch 22, 23 & 24.

It is obvious that all religions have been proved to have some flaws in the modern day Ancient people had little or no idea what had happened in the past and were ill equipped to do so

But in almost every religion there is one constant

They tell us to strive to become better people morally , to help others in need , set the example for others to follow , not to commit sins and if we do to try and repent

What is so wrong with that ??

I think this is the biggest problem though , many religions bend their belief's to sort whatever issue they are trying to conquer at the time

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

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It is obvious that all religions have been proved to have some flaws in the modern day Ancient people had little or no idea what had happened in the past and were ill equipped to do so

But in almost every religion there is one constant

They tell us to strive to become better people morally , to help others in need , set the example for others to follow , not to commit sins and if we do to try and repent

What is so wrong with that ??

I think this is the biggest problem though , many religions bend their belief's to sort whatever issue they are trying to conquer at the time

They do at times teach this but at the same time can have shocking attitudes towards women and minorities and sometimes these evil characteristics completely take over for e.g. Holy Inquisition.

There are ancient philosophies that religions have copied their good aspects from so they are not originally religious. There has never been a time when religious extremism has not caused unnecessary problems for society, so if religion could be ditched society we would be much better off for it. Those volunteers now working under religious organisations would soon find alternative organisations to help society.

 

[claws]

Can someone please tell me the date? Go Weststigers!

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Can someone please tell me the date? Go Weststigers!

Well the Second Coming is way overdue and the Final Rapture has been predicted for about 1500 years and still coming as well.

I think the Wests-Tigers will get a few more grand finals in before Endtime.

 

[TrueTiger]

The only certain thing when it comes to religion is how many people have been slaughtered in the name of it. Myth.

there have been billions more slaughtered in the name of power.

Therein lies the problem of the world today…the belief in a particular religion,taught and handed down from generation to generation,in schools and at home,different cultures and lifestyles,all add up to who has the better religion and beliefs,from this stems the extremists who manipulate and misconstrue the true teachings and beliefs of a particular religion to use it to an advantage of their cause....their cause is to be the most powerful of beliefs and most powerful people..we could go on forever who is at fault or who has the most to gain out of thinking they are better than everyone else,it ends up a lost cause as in the end everybody dies and goes to where they believe they go,to some that could be heaven to others in a six foot deep grave never to be heard from again,who really knows...but you still have a belief in something,mine is love ,peace and caring for your fellow human being...I have to agree though,Power is the cause of most of any conflicts in our world,weather over religion or who has the most sophisticated weaponry in the world...

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I feel the weakening of Christianity over the past 100 years has highlighted the plights of the Islamic religion and its teachings in the western world. One thing is for certain, Christianity has slaughtered many more millions of people in there name than Islam has.

I find the media coverage about IS somewhat of a shame really. When [still are] they are killing Muslims by the hundreds per day very little coverage exists. When they kill one Christian, the world is outraged.

There will never be a winner in the battle of religion… Regardless where you stand, its based on 'belief' and 'ideology' and both are one powerful tool.

Wally Lewis is the only God I have seen...

 

[TrueTiger]

I feel the weakening of Christianity over the past 100 years has highlighted the plights of the Islamic religion and its teachings in the western world. One thing is for certain, Christianity has slaughtered many more millions of people in there name than Islam has.

I find the media coverage about IS somewhat of a shame really. When [still are] they are killing Muslims by the hundreds per day very little coverage exists. When they kill one Christian, the world is outraged.

There will never be a winner in the battle of religion… Regardless where you stand, its based on 'belief' and 'ideology' and both are one powerful tool.

Wally Lewis is the only God I have seen...

And the great TT…!!!!

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I know Watto is not a Farah fan but I love his (stupid coach) avatar so much I just pretend that he is a fan.

 

[rialto]

Perhaps people believe in a god as a crutch to help them through the visissitudes of life and to help them face the difficult concept of death where nothing exists beyond. Perhaps you could argue the stronger the individual the less need to believe in a god?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't have an issue with spirituality, or even a belief in a deity (even though it's not for me,) my issue is with organised religion. There shouldn't need to be a middle man between you and your god. Organised religion has created a culture of being able to perform heinous crimes without remorse or consideration of your victims if they don't meet your creed. Organised religions clearly aren't perfect anyway as Islam, Judaism and Christianity all have different sects and have all at certain times been rather belligerent with each other.

Disagreement with contrary conclusive scientific data that damages the creed, rather than evolving their teachings also is my big axe to grind.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I think the religions should be run out of town for taking money from people under false pretences. They cannot guarantee anything.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Religious institutions should pay tax.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Religious institutions should pay tax.

Agreed, and a fair amount as should Trusts, corporations (particularly large international) and high end superannuation rorters.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Religious institutions should pay tax.

Agreed, and a fair amount as should Trusts, corporations (particularly large international) and high end superannuation rorters.

Technically Trusts are distributed to end users [through layers] etc, so they pay tax inevitably.

The operational Tax Breaks to Not-For-Profit Organisations are huge, and I feel once you become a public place [Licensed Clubs] those breaks should disappear.

No Government will have the kahuna's to tax churches!

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Chevron paid $268 on $1.7B profit - they put all those petty Lebo-Aussie crooks in the shade.

But those trusts beneficiaries could pay tax at a much lower rate than a single entity or person. Do they all receive that $18K tax free break? And those beneficiaries are falsely put on the books for doing absolutely nothing - like Obeid's missus, but get the big $18K tax break. Bring it on.