Tigers board to undertake post-season review

@2005magic said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461103) said:
I also put this in another thread:

Well Foxsports reporting a rift between Maguire and Hartigan.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/jimmy-brings/awkward-flight-sums-up-tigers-season-rivals-on-notice-over-bizarre-dragons-call-jimmy-brings/news-story/768f5f83aa94746e0e5ea814e6959bef

I wonder if the inability to get good player signings has created finger pointing between the 2?

What I got from that is Tim Sheens has progressed from sending emails to conducting Zoom meetings..... hopefully a face to face next
 
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461155) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461153) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461151) said:
Hartigan is the last guy I want leaving. if we lose him I'll be filthy.

What are you basing his worth on?

the acquisition of Scott Woodward and the Talent Identification System that has led us to signing a number of youngsters and unknowns, the turnover in the junior grades and the successes there, and the refusal to pay overs when we have been notorious for doing so.

he's only been in the job 2 years and we have completely remodelled our approach, which has been to sign young players from all corners of the country and develop them in our system. he won't have much to do with pathways moving forward, but he has definitely been instrumental in us heading in that direction.

I doubt that there is any real issue between Madge and Hartigan, if anything you'd be worried if there has been no disagreements between the two given our results onfield. hopefully it all comes out in this review.

Very well said.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461172) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461155) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461153) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461151) said:
Hartigan is the last guy I want leaving. if we lose him I'll be filthy.

What are you basing his worth on?

the acquisition of Scott Woodward and the Talent Identification System that has led us to signing a number of youngsters and unknowns, the turnover in the junior grades and the successes there, and the refusal to pay overs when we have been notorious for doing so.

he's only been in the job 2 years and we have completely remodelled our approach, which has been to sign young players from all corners of the country and develop them in our system. he won't have much to do with pathways moving forward, but he has definitely been instrumental in us heading in that direction.

I doubt that there is any real issue between Madge and Hartigan, if anything you'd be worried if there has been no disagreements between the two given our results onfield. hopefully it all comes out in this review.

We can't really differentiate who's doing what and it's all guess work

Isn't Woodward the brain child for tamou that didn't work too well for us.

@jrtiger is correct.
 
@garryowen said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461129) said:
@2005magic said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461103) said:
I also put this in another thread:

Well Foxsports reporting a rift between Maguire and Hartigan.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/jimmy-brings/awkward-flight-sums-up-tigers-season-rivals-on-notice-over-bizarre-dragons-call-jimmy-brings/news-story/768f5f83aa94746e0e5ea814e6959bef

I wonder if the inability to get good player signings has created finger pointing between the 2?

Even by Hooper standards, this is desperate dribble. He writes at a primary school level.

Mate my daughter is 8, your comment shows disrespect to primary schoolers!
 
@cochise said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461182) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461172) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461155) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461153) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461151) said:
Hartigan is the last guy I want leaving. if we lose him I'll be filthy.

What are you basing his worth on?

the acquisition of Scott Woodward and the Talent Identification System that has led us to signing a number of youngsters and unknowns, the turnover in the junior grades and the successes there, and the refusal to pay overs when we have been notorious for doing so.

he's only been in the job 2 years and we have completely remodelled our approach, which has been to sign young players from all corners of the country and develop them in our system. he won't have much to do with pathways moving forward, but he has definitely been instrumental in us heading in that direction.

I doubt that there is any real issue between Madge and Hartigan, if anything you'd be worried if there has been no disagreements between the two given our results onfield. hopefully it all comes out in this review.

We can't really differentiate who's doing what and it's all guess work

Isn't Woodward the brain child for tamou that didn't work too well for us.

@jrtiger is correct.

The dynamic between the two does not seem to be working.

Who has the more power in their role anyway?

I think madge would be the more brutel sacking and hartigan would be the easier option.

Must see viewing against the Bulldogs things could quickly change.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461287) said:
@cochise said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461182) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461172) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461155) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461153) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461151) said:
Hartigan is the last guy I want leaving. if we lose him I'll be filthy.

What are you basing his worth on?

the acquisition of Scott Woodward and the Talent Identification System that has led us to signing a number of youngsters and unknowns, the turnover in the junior grades and the successes there, and the refusal to pay overs when we have been notorious for doing so.

he's only been in the job 2 years and we have completely remodelled our approach, which has been to sign young players from all corners of the country and develop them in our system. he won't have much to do with pathways moving forward, but he has definitely been instrumental in us heading in that direction.

I doubt that there is any real issue between Madge and Hartigan, if anything you'd be worried if there has been no disagreements between the two given our results onfield. hopefully it all comes out in this review.

We can't really differentiate who's doing what and it's all guess work

Isn't Woodward the brain child for tamou that didn't work too well for us.

@jrtiger is correct.

The dynamic between the two does not seem to be working.

Who has the more power in their role anyway?

I think madge would be the more brutel sacking and hartigan would be the easier option.

Must see viewing against the Bulldogs things could quickly change.

Madge is by far the easiest sacking of the two. Finding people that can build you up from juniors to seniors and build a club around are hard to find. Finding someone new to shout and swear at players is rather simpler in comparison.

Why hasn't Madge been able to inspire better performances from his players. Why do we keep making the same mistakes over and over again in defence? Why do we mentally switch off and make dumb decisions so much? Partly on dumb players, but partly on the systems and tactics (or lack thereof) in place too.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461323) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461287) said:
@cochise said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461182) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461172) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461155) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461153) said:
@jrtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461151) said:
Hartigan is the last guy I want leaving. if we lose him I'll be filthy.

What are you basing his worth on?

the acquisition of Scott Woodward and the Talent Identification System that has led us to signing a number of youngsters and unknowns, the turnover in the junior grades and the successes there, and the refusal to pay overs when we have been notorious for doing so.

he's only been in the job 2 years and we have completely remodelled our approach, which has been to sign young players from all corners of the country and develop them in our system. he won't have much to do with pathways moving forward, but he has definitely been instrumental in us heading in that direction.

I doubt that there is any real issue between Madge and Hartigan, if anything you'd be worried if there has been no disagreements between the two given our results onfield. hopefully it all comes out in this review.

We can't really differentiate who's doing what and it's all guess work

Isn't Woodward the brain child for tamou that didn't work too well for us.

@jrtiger is correct.

The dynamic between the two does not seem to be working.

Who has the more power in their role anyway?

I think madge would be the more brutel sacking and hartigan would be the easier option.

Must see viewing against the Bulldogs things could quickly change.

Madge is by far the easiest sacking of the two. Finding people that can build you up from juniors to seniors and build a club around are hard to find. Finding someone new to shout and swear at players is rather simpler in comparison.

Why hasn't Madge been able to inspire better performances from his players. Why do we keep making the same mistakes over and over again in defence? Why do we mentally switch off and make dumb decisions so much? Partly on dumb players, but partly on the systems and tactics (or lack thereof) in place too.

I agree with the post BB,but I have to correct you on one matter.....

Mostly on dumb players....:anguished:
Partly on the systems and tactics in place....
 
@magpie_magic said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1460703) said:
If it were possible, it would be great to ask Harry Grant for his imput during the review process.
It would certainly tell where were at.
He became an origin player with us and received nearly weekly standing ovations from us in the crowd but yet he quickly went back to Melbourne to fulfill his Contract. In the past a player often fell in love with the place with that adulation and personal success.
But not he, wonder how he would compare the club's and did he think there was much future with us

He certainly ran.

Seems to have blocked out his time here.

I see it slightly different in that he had the integrity to follow through on what he agreed to do. In saying that, it’s not like he was going from the Penthouse to the outhouse, quite the opposite actually.
 
Hard to think a staunch review of the failed 2021 season is going to make a licking difference when those conducting the review need reviewing themselves. The club needs an independent review by Craig Bellamy and those that run the Storm franchise.
 
@tcat said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465527) said:
Hard to think a staunch review of the failed 2021 season is going to make a licking difference when those conducting the review need reviewing themselves. The club needs an independent review by Craig Bellamy and those that run the Storm franchise.


At the moment its like having the Nuremberg Trials ran by the Nazis
 
@gcfan said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1461389) said:
@magpie_magic said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1460703) said:
If it were possible, it would be great to ask Harry Grant for his imput during the review process.
It would certainly tell where were at.
He became an origin player with us and received nearly weekly standing ovations from us in the crowd but yet he quickly went back to Melbourne to fulfill his Contract. In the past a player often fell in love with the place with that adulation and personal success.
But not he, wonder how he would compare the club's and did he think there was much future with us

He certainly ran.

Seems to have blocked out his time here.

I see it slightly different in that he had the integrity to follow through on what he agreed to do. In saying that, it’s not like he was going from the Penthouse to the outhouse, quite the opposite actually.

I saw Harry Grant on Matt Johns show early in the year talk about his time at the WTs. Said Maguire helped him with his individual game and the player he learned most from was Moses Mybe.
 
Lets be real, i don't think any change will occur from this review. This is just posturing from the big wigs to us fans and the media to make it look like the club is "trying".
 
@jadtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465528) said:
@tcat said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465527) said:
Hard to think a staunch review of the failed 2021 season is going to make a licking difference when those conducting the review need reviewing themselves. The club needs an independent review by Craig Bellamy and those that run the Storm franchise.


At the moment its like having the Nuremberg Trials ran by the Nazis

Who better to run the review than Oberst-Gruppenfuhrer Pascoe?

![510662F5-56DF-4A41-8432-A09B8303ADA5.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1630898653894-510662f5-56df-4a41-8432-a09b8303ada5.jpeg)
 
@zach said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465550) said:
Lets be real, i don't think any change will occur from this review. This is just posturing from the big wigs to us fans and the media to make it look like the club is "trying".

Idk. Someone’s head is gonna roll. Highly unlikely that all 3 of Maguire, Hartigan and Pascoe will survive. At least one will go imo.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465553) said:
@jadtiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465528) said:
@tcat said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465527) said:
Hard to think a staunch review of the failed 2021 season is going to make a licking difference when those conducting the review need reviewing themselves. The club needs an independent review by Craig Bellamy and those that run the Storm franchise.


At the moment its like having the Nuremberg Trials ran by the Nazis

Who better to run the review than Oberst-Gruppenfuhrer Pascoe?

![510662F5-56DF-4A41-8432-A09B8303ADA5.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1630898653894-510662f5-56df-4a41-8432-a09b8303ada5.jpeg)

That made me burst into laughter
 
@gnr4life said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465554) said:
@zach said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465550) said:
Lets be real, i don't think any change will occur from this review. This is just posturing from the big wigs to us fans and the media to make it look like the club is "trying".

Idk. Someone’s head is gonna roll. Highly unlikely that all 3 of Maguire, Hartigan and Pascoe will survive. At least one will go imo.

Yep I reckon you’re right. I think they’ll all be going on about the optics of nothing being done so will punt one of them at a minimum.
 
@gnr4life said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465554) said:
@zach said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1465550) said:
Lets be real, i don't think any change will occur from this review. This is just posturing from the big wigs to us fans and the media to make it look like the club is "trying".

Idk. Someone’s head is gonna roll. Highly unlikely that all 3 of Maguire, Hartigan and Pascoe will survive. At least one will go imo.

From the way Lee was talking the other day it's Hartigan and Pascoe conducting the review so if true hard to imagine it's either of them on the chopping block.
 
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