TODDY ON SHAKEY GROUND

[jirskyr]

who do we get David Trodden

Laurie Daly on the Big Sports Breakfast was ask who he thought could be line for the position and he gave David Trodden and big wrap for the work he's being doing with the NSWRL and said he would not be out of his depth if the position came his way

Do you know what, always beware of cronyism in rugby league.

Everyone complains about "jobs for the boys", but the reality is that part of the reason why Greenberg is unpopular is because he doesn't kowtow to the clubs. Yes he was from the Bulldogs but I'd struggle to find a single instance where he's specifically helped the Doggies out since becoming CEO.

John Grant was quite unpopular for the same reason, and as soon as you start making whole-code decisions that upset some clubs, they can form a bloc against you. Clubs don't disappear, even if their employees rotate, so it's very difficult to continually take on the clubs and win.

However taking on the clubs is exactly what the NRL CEO should be doing, because clubs only ever act in their own self-interest, often stupid self-interest. They don't want expansion unless it improves their bottom line. I can understand the self-interest, but doesn't mean clubs should be calling all the shots.

 

[JD Tiger]

who do we get David Trodden

Laurie Daly on the Big Sports Breakfast was ask who he thought could be line for the position and he gave David Trodden and big wrap for the work he's being doing with the NSWRL and said he would not be out of his depth if the position came his way

Do you know what, always beware of cronyism in rugby league.

Everyone complains about "jobs for the boys", but the reality is that part of the reason why Greenberg is unpopular is because he doesn't kowtow to the clubs. Yes he was from the Bulldogs but I'd struggle to find a single instance where he's specifically helped the Doggies out since becoming CEO.

John Grant was quite unpopular for the same reason, and as soon as you start making whole-code decisions that upset some clubs, they can form a bloc against you. Clubs don't disappear, even if their employees rotate, so it's very difficult to continually take on the clubs and win.

However taking on the clubs is exactly what the NRL CEO should be doing, because clubs only ever act in their own self-interest, often stupid self-interest. They don't want expansion unless it improves their bottom line. I can understand the self-interest, but doesn't mean clubs should be calling all the shots.

There's at least three examples where he has made decisions which favour the Storm. Giving a $15k diamond ring to a players wife (because she was a player's wife), the testimonial game with proceeds going to Smith, and the testimonial dinner for Smith also.

Considering he sees all the above as no big deal, I suggest that his judgement of what is acceptable or not is highly dubious.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

was Dave Trodden linked with Balmain when they made tue decisions to move the leagues club etc ?

 

[jirskyr]

Considering he sees all the above as no big deal, I suggest that his judgement of what is acceptable or not is highly dubious.

I would agree that his judgement on public opinion of those incidents was poor.

What specific reason does Greenberg have for singling out Storm? In fact you can argue he really just helped out Cam Smith, and Cam Smith seems to have a really good knack of getting folks to help him out.

I've seen question marks on Greenberg as to whether or not he might be too close to some elite players, but from a politics point of view, you have to respect that it is a valid strategy to keep yourself in a position of power. Of course the NRL CEO should only be the man or woman best suited for the job, with the best skills. But only a naive fool would fail to see that keeping the NRL CEO job is as much about politics as anything else. Rugby League is built on politics.

 

[JD Tiger]

Considering he sees all the above as no big deal, I suggest that his judgement of what is acceptable or not is highly dubious.

I would agree that his judgement on public opinion of those incidents was poor.

What specific reason does Greenberg have for singling out Storm? In fact you can argue he really just helped out Cam Smith, and Cam Smith seems to have a really good knack of getting folks to help him out.

I've seen question marks on Greenberg as to whether or not he might be too close to some elite players, but from a politics point of view, you have to respect that it is a valid strategy to keep yourself in a position of power. Of course the NRL CEO should only be the man or woman best suited for the job, with the best skills. But only a naive fool would fail to see that keeping the NRL CEO job is as much about politics as anything else. Rugby League is built on politics.

I just hope the next person does a better job. And by that I mean, I hope the next person doesn't brazenly do dodgy things and act like they've done nothing wrong. He comes across as a cheat, ranging back to his Bulldog days, and the NRL will be better off seeing the back of him. (His replacement could be worse, but that's hard to imagine.)

 

[Tiger5150]

Considering he sees all the above as no big deal, I suggest that his judgement of what is acceptable or not is highly dubious.

I would agree that his judgement on public opinion of those incidents was poor.

***What specific reason does Greenberg have for singling out Storm***? In fact you can argue he really just helped out Cam Smith, and Cam Smith seems to have a really good knack of getting folks to help him out.

I've seen question marks on Greenberg as to whether or not he might be too close to some elite players, but from a politics point of view, you have to respect that it is a valid strategy to keep yourself in a position of power. Of course the NRL CEO should only be the man or woman best suited for the job, with the best skills. But only a naive fool would fail to see that keeping the NRL CEO job is as much about politics as anything else. Rugby League is built on politics.

Toddy’s incentives for giving the Storm preference include links between Storm ownership and the NRL paymasters (News) as well as the fact Melbourne effectively double media rights in Australia. Same reason for Brisbane. IMO he is soft on Souffs but that is more likely to be because he is a weak superficial human and loves being wined and dined by Rusty

 

[jirskyr]

Toddy’s incentives for giving the Storm preference include links between Storm ownership and the NRL paymasters (News) as well as the fact Melbourne effectively double media rights in Australia. Same reason for Brisbane.

If that is true, how will it be any different for a new CEO, if they are beholden to the pressures of News Ltd? And where is the preferential treatment for Broncos apart from Friday night games?

Also, if Melbourne actually do DOUBLE media rights in Australia, then by all means, prob those boys up.

I'm curious if Greenberg is also beholden to Roosters, seeing as they are doing all the winning right now. And if yes, if he is biased towards Storm and Broncos and Souths and Roosters, perhaps also Dogs as his old club, then that's quickly becoming half the comp. Similarly, if Greenberg likes being wine and dined, which I am sure lots of League bigwigs don't mind, Rusty isn't the only supremo with a fat cheque book.

 

[Tiger5150]

Toddy’s incentives for giving the Storm preference include links between Storm ownership and the NRL paymasters (News) as well as the fact Melbourne effectively double media rights in Australia. Same reason for Brisbane.

If that is true, how will it be any different for a new CEO, if they are beholden to the pressures of News Ltd? And where is the preferential treatment for Broncos apart from Friday night games?

Also, if Melbourne actually do DOUBLE media rights in Australia, then by all means, prob those boys up.

I'm curious if Greenberg is also beholden to Roosters, seeing as they are doing all the winning right now. And if yes, if he is biased towards Storm and Broncos and Souths and Roosters, perhaps also Dogs as his old club, then that's quickly becoming half the comp. Similarly, if Greenberg likes being wine and dined, which I am sure lots of League bigwigs don't mind, Rusty isn't the only supremo with a fat cheque book.

You hadn’t noticed?

 

[jirskyr]

Toddy’s incentives for giving the Storm preference include links between Storm ownership and the NRL paymasters (News) as well as the fact Melbourne effectively double media rights in Australia. Same reason for Brisbane.

If that is true, how will it be any different for a new CEO, if they are beholden to the pressures of News Ltd? And where is the preferential treatment for Broncos apart from Friday night games?

Also, if Melbourne actually do DOUBLE media rights in Australia, then by all means, prob those boys up.

I'm curious if Greenberg is also beholden to Roosters, seeing as they are doing all the winning right now. And if yes, if he is biased towards Storm and Broncos and Souths and Roosters, perhaps also Dogs as his old club, then that's quickly becoming half the comp. Similarly, if Greenberg likes being wine and dined, which I am sure lots of League bigwigs don't mind, Rusty isn't the only supremo with a fat cheque book.

You hadn’t noticed?

Hadn't noticed what?

 

[Tiger5150]

Toddy’s incentives for giving the Storm preference include links between Storm ownership and the NRL paymasters (News) as well as the fact Melbourne effectively double media rights in Australia. Same reason for Brisbane.

If that is true, how will it be any different for a new CEO, if they are beholden to the pressures of News Ltd? And where is the preferential treatment for Broncos apart from Friday night games?

Also, if Melbourne actually do DOUBLE media rights in Australia, then by all means, prob those boys up.

I'm curious if Greenberg is also beholden to Roosters, seeing as they are doing all the winning right now. And if yes, if he is biased towards Storm and Broncos and Souths and Roosters, perhaps also Dogs as his old club, then that's quickly becoming half the comp. Similarly, if Greenberg likes being wine and dined, which I am sure lots of League bigwigs don't mind, Rusty isn't the only supremo with a fat cheque book.

You hadn’t noticed?

Hadn't noticed what?

Everything you just said

 

[jirskyr]

Toddy’s incentives for giving the Storm preference include links between Storm ownership and the NRL paymasters (News) as well as the fact Melbourne effectively double media rights in Australia. Same reason for Brisbane.

If that is true, how will it be any different for a new CEO, if they are beholden to the pressures of News Ltd? And where is the preferential treatment for Broncos apart from Friday night games?

Also, if Melbourne actually do DOUBLE media rights in Australia, then by all means, prob those boys up.

I'm curious if Greenberg is also beholden to Roosters, seeing as they are doing all the winning right now. And if yes, if he is biased towards Storm and Broncos and Souths and Roosters, perhaps also Dogs as his old club, then that's quickly becoming half the comp. Similarly, if Greenberg likes being wine and dined, which I am sure lots of League bigwigs don't mind, Rusty isn't the only supremo with a fat cheque book.

You hadn’t noticed?

Hadn't noticed what?

Everything you just said

That doesn't make sense, but never mind.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Telegraph reporting that support for Dave Trodden voted sporting administrator of the year 2019 is growing could be a good appointment as Telegraph also reporting Nick Politis and Nick Pappas are being considered for roles on the Independent Commission

 

[cktiger]

Telegraph reporting that support for Dave Trodden voted sporting administrator of the year 2019 is growing could be a good appointment as Telegraph also reporting Nick Politis and Nick Pappas are being considered for roles on the Independent Commission

How could Politis or Pappas ever be considered independent?

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Telegraph reporting that support for Dave Trodden voted sporting administrator of the year 2019 is growing could be a good appointment as Telegraph also reporting Nick Politis and Nick Pappas are being considered for roles on the Independent Commission

How could Politis or Pappas ever be considered independent?

Hahaha, that's the NRL for ya!
Morons of the highest order.

 

[twentyforty]

Now is not a good time to be changing the CEO. imo

 

[supercoach]

Toddy is blessed, they will not flick him with all the drama and uncertainty surrounding the game. Toddy’s only talent is he is pretty solid
In front of the camera talking the talk. So I guess he will be used in the short term