Tukimihia Simpkins #248

@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .
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I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I just meant in creativity . And ability to hold the ball up and engage defenders . But yeah you’re right , the “halfback in a front rowers body” isn’t really him .
 
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but like my locks to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.
 
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but **like my locks** to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

I reckon Elijay Taylor may have come in hand this year, and would've come cheap too. Not to mention he's a thorough professional giving the young guys valuable experience.
 
@izotope said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446396) said:
Not writing the kid off at all but my unpopular opinion is he isn't ready for first grade yet. When he came on they started rolling us up the middle.
Seems to get caught out behind the PTB way to much

Needs to work on tackling style for mine

Yes, he's too young atm.
 
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but like my locks to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

Agree cochise,valid points,however,I would hate to see a young guy end up with either burn out because he is pushed to hard or once he reaches the NRL standard of week to week consistency he folds under the pressure...this is why I like Madges approach.a little bit here and a bit more later seems to have the right balance....just my opinion though mate...
 
@tig_prmz said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446436) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but **like my locks** to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

I reckon Elijay Taylor may have come in hand this year, and would've come cheap too. Not to mention he's a thorough professional giving the young guys valuable experience.

The best Brooks and Moses ever played together was when Taylor 1st came over and was playing that link role at lock. Seyfarth was performing well in that role earlier this year as well.
 
@truetiger said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446444) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but like my locks to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

Agree cochise,valid points,however,I would hate to see a young guy end up with either burn out because he is pushed to hard or once he reaches the NRL standard of week to week consistency he folds under the pressure...this is why I like Madges approach.a little bit here and a bit more later seems to have the right balance....just my opinion though mate...

No I agree with that, I like young bloke being brought in slowly. I also like them to get a couple of weeks in the top grade and then sent back to reserves with clear instructions on what they need to work on. It shows them how their game measures up and then allows them to work on their game in a much less pressure filled environment.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446436) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but **like my locks** to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

I reckon Elijay Taylor may have come in hand this year, and would've come cheap too. Not to mention he's a thorough professional giving the young guys valuable experience.

?

ET was very important to our wins.
He was a great player.
Hope he's doing well.
 
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but like my locks to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

He did in KOE Cup once and Chee-Kam dropped it..
 
@geo said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446485) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446434) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446428) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446384) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446381) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446377) said:
@strongee said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1446374) said:
@cochise said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445821) said:
@jirskyr said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1445759) said:
Good kid Tuki, very much of the Gibbs / Galloway tall build, but with a wicked offload. Good pickup.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Gibbs/ Galloway and Tuki. Tuki is a lot more agile with better footwork and a stronger passing game, he is that mobile lock we have been looking for. He needs to work on his motor and fitness to allow him to get through more work, especially in defence.

If anything its he’s very similar to the cowboys coach in play style. Ironic as that’s how we got him in the first place .

I didn't watch a lot of KOE this year, what is his passing before the line like?

I can't recall him ever doing that.

It is probably an area he needs to add to his game then.

He's got more ballskills than any of our other forwards, so that's something. He's not Jurbo, Radley etc but he's better than everyone else we have in this regard. He could become the best offloader in the comp, and he can pass ok, his rugby background would help him with this, but he's largely played as a prop/lock for now and has been told no doubt to keep his game simple and work on power.

At this stage he's still a prop/lock. He could convert to the second row like Kikau did over time but has to work on his fitness, agility and general strength and conditioning first. He's not doing bad so far for a jersey flegg prop.

I like him as a lock, but like my locks to be able to ball play before the line, so would like to see him develop that a little. Need to remember he is only 19 though so he is doing really well at this point.

He did in KOE Cup once and Chee-Kam dropped it..

Probably got told to never do it again lol
 
Tuki needs an off season in the weights room to fill out his frame and he will get better with more NRL games off the bench.

The new COE will hopefully drive a positive culture and offer the latest equipment for the team to develop further.
We have blooded a few young kids this year and apart from a few rookie errors they have accounted for themselves well.
Tuki is still very young and when he fills out he will be a weapon with the offload if we get some support players running off him.
 
https://streamable.com/h8ani3

He's not ready for the NRL. He didn't set his feet in this tackle and ran right past Mulitalo. I know that Joffa also got beaten, but he was always supposed to be the second tackler. Tuki should have at least made some contact, even if he fell off. I would like to think an off season with us will improve his technique.

In saying that, I hope Madge sticks with him. Keep blooding the young guys in these last two rounds. Who cares if we get smashed.
 
Bench was poorly managed again today.

Tuki didn't achieve anything today...
No one else did either tho.
 
@demps said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1451241) said:
Bench was poorly managed again today.

Tuki didn't achieve anything today...
No one else did either tho.


I think Tuilagi achieved today
 
Has ability but not first grade level in a top 8 side. Not even close. Has a good offload but misses way too many first up tackles and tires quickly. A prospect but probably only a first grader with us or the dogs atm
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Tuki Simpkins](/post/1451215) said:
https://streamable.com/h8ani3

He's not ready for the NRL. He didn't set his feet in this tackle and ran right past Mulitalo. I know that Joffa also got beaten, but he was always supposed to be the second tackler. Tuki should have at least made some contact, even if he fell off. I would like to think an off season with us will improve his technique.

In saying that, I hope Madge sticks with him. Keep blooding the young guys in these last two rounds. Who cares if we get smashed.

He has talent but his selection these past few weeks reflects poorly on our recruitment and retention.
 
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