Kaito
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You know I was a supporter of the voice & Albo
in the beginning, come to find out both parties are
basically as bad as one other & protect each other
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You know I was a supporter of the voice & Albo
in the beginning, come to find out both parties are
basically as bad as one other & protect each other
Tucker
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Good sort as well, not like these other dragons they keep tossing up
😁
TV Ted Ellery
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What do people reckon Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's victory will mean for Australia?
On the trade front, we may be spared the worst of the tariffs. Turnbull managed to negotiate exemptions for Australia last time and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is unlikely to carp on about an imbalance in trade since the US has a trade surplus with us.
He'll be hawkish on China in contrast to his deference to Russia, so nothing much will change in that respect, though he may scuttle the the AUKUS subs deal.
In terms of diplomacy, much has been made of Rudd's past disparaging remarks about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. But his own deputy has called him American Hitler and some of his biggest supporters like Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk have said damning things about him in the past. At the end of the day, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is transactional and open to flattery. He can forgive and forget despite his reputation for petty grievances.
On the trade front, we may be spared the worst of the tariffs. Turnbull managed to negotiate exemptions for Australia last time and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is unlikely to carp on about an imbalance in trade since the US has a trade surplus with us.
He'll be hawkish on China in contrast to his deference to Russia, so nothing much will change in that respect, though he may scuttle the the AUKUS subs deal.
In terms of diplomacy, much has been made of Rudd's past disparaging remarks about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. But his own deputy has called him American Hitler and some of his biggest supporters like Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk have said damning things about him in the past. At the end of the day, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is transactional and open to flattery. He can forgive and forget despite his reputation for petty grievances.
Kaito
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This has been something I've considered in the past,
which of the 2 is the lesser evil? I would say the left.
Tucker
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Have a guess how much it has changed up here since that shamozzle of promises and chest beating....Ill give you a clue. It rhymes with RUCK MALL
jirskyr
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OK ok let's do it then, what you asked for, a comparison of negative behaviours:
Has Kamala Harris ever raped a woman or man? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has Harris ever bankrupted a company? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has Harris or any serving Democrat incited a riot or encouraged armed or angry persons to march on the US Capitol? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has Harris or any Democrat overseen a pandemic that killed over a million Americans? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has any Democrat refused to acknowledge the results of an election after due process, including the odd court case? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has Kamala Harris ever boasted about grabbing men or women on their genitals? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has Kamala Harris or any serving Democrat been convicted of a felony? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
Has Kamala Harris or any Democrat pretended to suck off a microphone or commented on the size of Arnold Palmer's penis? No
Has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Yes
You cannot seriously raise an argument, in all honest human and logical faith, again my mind explodes, that tries to say that there is some kind of equivalence between Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and any other candidate, not just within the Dems, but any from his own party either. The depth of proven and ongoing negative behaviours from Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon are basically without precedent.
The only argument that can be logically proposed is there is no equivalence - they are being measured on a different set of criteria. Half of Americans simply don't care what Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon did, because he did do all these things, but they just don't care enough to stop him being President again. It's not that he's innocent or that anyone else matches his level of negative behaviour, it's that America is so polarised that half the nation will overlook any of his proven negatives if he tells them a fairly basic message about how he's going to "go after their enemies".
Tucker
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Unfortunately we have Labor as our reps.
Rudd and Albanese have made cocks of themselves which is moronic given the chances that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon would get back in.
It may hurt us initially. Albo better get a few boxes of chapstick....
Kaito
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Haha...It's all so very peformative Aus politics. He
talked a very good game, suffers delusions of grandeur
jirskyr
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The real question is - if Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon wins, how can his successor follow? Americans have proven they don't really want a cleanskin or don't care. Do they have to meet the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon level of mania or out-do him?
Ron DeSantis for example tried to go full Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and failed miserably.
How does the conservative right head back to centre-right after Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? Because that's what normally happens, if the politics shift too far right or left, a democratic population tends to vote to bring it back to centre, which is why no party manages to stay in power for very long periods of time.
Kaito
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Not that dork from marrickville, raised by a single
mother anymore that likes to spin vinyl records lol.
Done little & left his core supporters disenfranchised
mother anymore that likes to spin vinyl records lol.
Done little & left his core supporters disenfranchised
Like in QLD?
jirskyr
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Ah as Turnbull said, you have to play Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's game for 4 years. Suck up to him, make deals that he thinks helps the US, realise he doesn't care specifically and everything is handled like a business. A complete change in pitch.
You might have to recall Rudd, but Rudd is a pretty smart cookie, he's probably already been doing groundwork for a different approach, working with the more centrist Republicans that remain. AUKUS might be in trouble unless Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon thinks the subs deal helps American industry.
But if he withdraws from Ukraine that's problematic for Europe and they'll be offside for a long time, and unfortunately we face both East and West as a nation. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon probably retains the security deals Biden put in place in Asia, of which Australia is a part.
They will probably hope to outlast Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and, as Darth Vader said, "hope he doesn't alter the deal any further".
$15 now… still think it’s a good bet?
Ron Brodrick's Spirit
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Man it's good to have reached an age where none of this crap matters and the only issue is how much time I have to play with my grandson.
Kaito
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Well, not sure what's going on but this has been fun!
Betterdays22
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I think banning abortion will make its way back into the mainstream discourse again, and it will be struck down. It will be a backward step for renewable energy investment too. China will be watching what Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does with conflict in Ukraine and Middle East. They may decide now is time to act re Taiwan.
Rudd's position is untenable.
Actual material differences to the way we live our lives? There will be minimal to no impact.
hammertime
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Yeah. I do agree mate. History I think will certainly steer toward the left. But some of the movements in transgenderism and immigration are just too much for the time. Anything like that is fine until it starts to impact others or the economy, I think that's what we're seeing.
Even in Australia, foreign property ownership is a big issue with the overinflated house prices. I just bought in Brisbane and my two competitors were citizens of china. People feel like they can't speak out because of the labels.
So I completely get the move to the right. Just Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is too much of a flawed human to get the votes that they should get. His sexual abuse and wanting his daughter is enough for me. To ignore that behavior says everything,
His foreign policy is also significant concern as I don't think he understands the power of friends and supporting democracy... and his fascist tendencies are alarming.
hank37w
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Plenty of 30 or 40 year olds that are fat slobs would really struggle to climb up into one of those trucks if it wasn't something they do on a regular basis.
Sleepy Joe has trouble walking on a level surface, as if he is actually on the level. 🤣
jirskyr
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Nothing in Australia as a whole is "like in QLD". QLD has a long history of LNP state control, all the way back to Sir Joh. Personally I think Miles was a weak leader and his days were numbered when "Pallashay" resigned.
Any anyhow the Libs held NSW for 13 years before bringing Labor back to power last year, a decision which has done absolutely nothing to help the cause of the federal Labor party. So you really can't marry up State elections as some particular national mandate or indicator.
You are correct to a certain extent imho but the extremes on either side of politics are abhorent.
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