Watmough

Matai already has a contract with manly for next season. He wants to leave apparently for warriors but they won't let him.

Would I want him here? Talent wise YES! But I don't have a good opinion of him as a person. Would be very hard to support someone like him but in saying that I cheer for dheads like bird in origin lol.

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@turnstyle said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Yeah, cos having a team of clean skins is taking us a long way. Some people are ridiculous, they complain about wanting things changed but are too scared too get to get their hands dirty. Who cares if you have a grub or two in your team. Thats actually a good thing believe it or not. As long as they stay out of trouble off the field whats the problem? A bit of white line fever never hurt anybody.

how i look forward to your condescending, sanctimonious posts written in absolutes.
"some people are ridiculous"?, "believe it or not…"?
it would be nice to be totally attuned to your wavelength because you know absolutely everything and it is always the one and only view that is the right one. opinionated is barely adequate for your posts.

you don't discuss anything: you tell, and it is boring and contemptuous.

from what i can gather id say you are barely even into your 20s - if that - and you come across as callow.

on topic, i agree with you that a bit of mongrel is a good thing for a team, but maybe you could open your mind a bit and respect that not only are differing opinions what make forums interesting, but considering them may be beneficial instead of simply dismissing anything written that doesn't immediately resonate with your views.

im sorry if i am getting too personal. but i know myself i see your posts and barely read any of them because you are the human equivalent of a one way sign (and im sure im not the only one).

maybe you are offended by this post, but then maybe in time you might see that regardless of who is expressing themselves there is always a possibility that you might learn something.
on a forum who cares if you only want to say what you think to the exclusion of other opinions, but in life you are eliminating possibly the best source of actually progressing yourself. if this is in fact how you interact in everyday life.

again, this post per se is a little advice. take it or not, i hope you may at least have a little objectivity and consider it.

All good.
 
I have a feeling that the Tigers are not bothering to chase anyone. Our club leaks info to the media more than anyone and there have been ZERO rumours of Tigers chasing anyone. It is clear though that we need:
- Workhorse backrower to replace Fulton
- Excellent centre to replace Lawrence (if he leaves). If Lawrence doesn't leave I doubt we will sign another centre.
 
@Nors05 said:
I have a feeling that the Tigers are not bothering to chase anyone. Our club leaks info to the media more than anyone and there have been ZERO rumours of Tigers chasing anyone. It is clear though that we need:
- Workhorse backrower to replace Fulton
- Excellent centre to replace Lawrence (if he leaves). If Lawrence doesn't leave I doubt we will sign another centre.

Well Mayer himself has said earlier in the year our marquee signing for 2015 is Aaron Woods, despite him re-signing this year
Blocker mentioned on radio last week we are looking for centers, take that how you will.
We may pick up a few fringe first graders
 
Our centres are looking at centres

Usually screaming past them at about a hundred miles an hour

Ask them who they think are the best
 
Jeebus…. so now the most injured squad in NRL history thinks it is wise to sign a centre who grabs his shoulder every time the wind changes... screw Matai.
 
No thanks. A year or two ago, maybe, but not if rumors of violence against women are correct, regardless of any player's ability.
 
I think watmough has been a terrific player, but signs are starting to show that is time is nigh, I dont think we need to pay the big cash for Watmough.

Matai on the other hand is playing the best footy of his career, Im under the impression he is going to NZ for some sort of family reason, so possibly he is not really a chance to go anywhere other than there…

WHy do the warriors need another centre though?
 
We really don't need any high priced marquee type players,we need to be looking at either the up and coming kid who can not get a regular gig at his present club or a solid journey man on a low to mid range price tag who is only going to fill a role till a younger kid is ready.We have most positions well covered with maybe the exception of a centre
 
I reckon Ava and Bodene will re-sign, meaning our forward pack will stay the same next year which I like. Next year Blair and Gavet are off contract. We also have guys like Lodge and Santi coming through nicely.

Our backline is definitely the worry. Lawrence is nowhere near top form, Lulia is nothing special, and Richards only has one or two seasons left in him. There's not a whole lot of guys in NSW Cup or NYC pushing for first grade either. A decent backline signing is a must.
 
Over the last couple of years, I've changed my outlook on team culture. We had a team full of "cleanskins" and it largely left us feeling disappointed with on field results. Fair enough there were games where they could turn it on, but it developed a culture where the boys were too close and footy almost became an afterthought. Cast back to when Heighington was let go, first thing Benji said was that he was upset because Rhino organised the lunches for the boys. It wasn't about what he offered the team on the field, it was about them away from the field. For Benji it was about playing footy with his mates, not winning games and being competitive. Other teams thought we were a joke and didn't take us seriously. Save maybe Farah, there wasn't a player on the team who wanted to go that little bit further to win the game.

Truth be told, the best players have a grubby streak. Manly are a pack of grubs and they have been the best team by and far for the last decade. Melbourne, cap rorting aside, were a gun side and full of players who had a grubby streak. Brisbane before these two clubs were the team to beat and they were also grubs. No secrets for guessing why these two teams were at the top for so long (again, discounting Melbourne rorting the cap.) The other 15 clubs don't seem to have a problem with picking up the grubby players.

I could handle having Matai here because I want the club to be continually successful. We've suffered for long enough as Magpies, Balmain and jointly as Wests Tigers fans and we deserve a competitive side who will be successful for years to come. To do this you have to make concessions, not take the high road and put yourself at a deliberate disadvantage.

As I said the other day, the only thing I draw the line though on is wife bashers. Not only do they not have a place at our club, they shouldn't have a place in our game. Anyone who smacks their missus is lower than a snakes gut.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Over the last couple of years, I've changed my outlook on team culture. We had a team full of "cleanskins" and it largely left us feeling disappointed with on field results. Fair enough there were games where they could turn it on, but it developed a culture where the boys were too close and footy almost became an afterthought. Cast back to when Heighington was let go, first thing Benji said was that he was upset because Rhino organised the lunches for the boys. It wasn't about what he offered the team on the field, it was about them away from the field. For Benji it was about playing footy with his mates, not winning games and being competitive. Other teams thought we were a joke and didn't take us seriously. Save maybe Farah, there wasn't a player on the team who wanted to go that little bit further to win the game.

Truth be told, the best players have a grubby streak. Manly are a pack of grubs and they have been the best team by and far for the last decade. Melbourne, cap rorting aside, were a gun side and full of players who had a grubby streak. Brisbane before these two clubs were the team to beat and they were also grubs. No secrets for guessing why these two teams were at the top for so long (again, discounting Melbourne rorting the cap.) The other 15 clubs don't seem to have a problem with picking up the grubby players.

I could handle having Matai here because I want the club to be continually successful. We've suffered for long enough as Magpies, Balmain and jointly as Wests Tigers fans and we deserve a competitive side who will be successful for years to come. To do this you have to make concessions, not take the high road and put yourself at a deliberate disadvantage.

As I said the other day, the only thing I draw the line though on is wife bashers. Not only do they not have a place at our club, they shouldn't have a place in our game. Anyone who smacks their missus is lower than a snakes gut.

Jackpot

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highly doubt we have the cap space to be eying off a marquee signing. Okay their has been talk of trying to shop a few of our bigger contracted players around, but you have to get a buyer and that would be doubtful.

Also read in a rag recently that one high profile coach said their is now a trend to stay clear of the high priced marquee signing and try and pick up two or three players on the level below for the same cash. I like what Cleary has done with his recruitment, no real super stars, a good mix of harden pros mixed with some real classy young talent.

I keep saying we have everything we need on our books with maybe the exception of a quality centre
 
I think the DNA freak has lost a few chromosomes in recent years….as others have said our forward stocks are quite healthy at present so no to Watmough...Jorge Taufua on the other hand
 
He's way down on his best form, has been for a while imo.
No probs with signing grubs or nobel prize winners…as long as theys can plays.
But we are signing Woods next year, Mayer announced it months ago
 
Rubbish player whose stats are inflated. Watch how many times he takes a hit up late in the tackle count with defences going backwards. You never see him taking the first hit up 10m out from his own goal line.
 

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