We need another prop

[innsaneink]

Blocker said it during the pre match dribble, and its showing

'We need to buy an experienced prop'

We arent going the entire 80, we are tiring badly at the back end of games…and imo its the result of injuries and poor forward recruitment
People have mentioned Buchanan looks to have hit the wall.....no slight on him but hes clearly being force to try do too much too soon, Bell offers little when he comes on. BMM....has he played this year?

The last two games have been against poor oppositions, weve had the better of the possesion and the completions yet we still struggle late in the game....round one showed what happens with no ball and no go forward...a hiding.

Yes weve had bad luck with injuries, but Groat is still an unknown and Gavet is untried....Galloway is experienced but good as gone for the year...Woods will blow a gasket if hes asked to do all this again on his own for a second year running....burnout is a concern, and if hes missing during origin time then we have another little problem dont we?

Buy a prop with 3 or 4 NRL seasons under his belt Humpty

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

there must be one or two props available in england ,, what about perry ,, ex knights , manly or is he passed his use by date ?

 

[Black_n_White]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

You're not alone on the Utai proposition, i have said it before, and really like the option.

Our pack is young, finding its feet, and were utilised brilliantly in the first 30\. They werent punched into traffic around the markers, and given space out wide to isolate for advantage. We lost our way too early and gave up on what was working, but you could definitely see tonight that there was a shift in the way we worked them early on, which was successful, compared to how we wore them down as the minutes passed reverting to the old ways.

 

[Ed_Reschs]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

Pettybourne was terrible. Looked unfit

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[happy_tiger]

Ink I don't think you will get a argument from any member of the forum on this point

The BIG question is who

The option within in the club look thin Spence ,Bullock ,Inososio ,Haangana ,Passi injured

Blair in the Top side ,Bell as a starter maybe .

I just don't think too may sides are going to let go props at this early stage of the season

 

[MacDougall]

Pettybourne needs to get some cardio cracking.

 

[happy_tiger]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

If we lost another starting prop during a game Utai would get eaten alive defensively if he had to play 40-50 minutes

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

Pettybourne was terrible. Looked unfit

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I agree Ed, hence why I said I intimated that I was wrong with my initial suggestion a few days back to utilise him as a prop. Perhaps that was the reason he was dropped off the bench against Newcastle?

 

[PYMBLEPETE]

Its a shame that you had a shot at 'poor recruitment'' as it discredits the subject of the post which few could disagree with. If anyone could anticipate that a side would lose 3 props from its top 25 before a ball was kicked then you should be getting them to buy lottery tickets for you.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

If we lost another starting prop during a game Utai would get eaten alive defensively if he had to play 40-50 minutes

Would he really though? They tend to pack hunt in the middle and Utai is really only a liability when his man gets outside of him. Train him to tackle low and he'll be invaluable there.

 

[Flippedy]

Yep this is a major concern that will bite us in the butt as the season progresses if something is not done to fix it soon. We needed another prop before Galloway went down, how much more now? I would really hate to see such talents as Buchanan and Woods burn out during the season because of work overload. These guys are gonna need help up front - Pettybourne and BMM are not props, Bell is a plodder and Blair now seems to be firmly ensconced in the back row.

I actually like the idea of Utai playing prop, CB. His days as a winger are over, imo. but he is too good to leave out of the team. His runs are quite sensational at times, so why not give him a shot - what have we got to lose?

 

[LaT]

Just checked with some Bunnie supporters and Pettybourne was carrying an injury end of last season. He may not have had a full off season which would explain his limited minutes at the moment.

When he is back we should expect decent game time though, he got big minutes at Souths and handled it well.

 

[happy_tiger]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

If we lost another starting prop during a game Utai would get eaten alive defensively if he had to play 40-50 minutes

Would he really though? They tend to pack hunt in the middle and Utai is really only a liability when his man gets outside of him. Train him to tackle low and he'll be invaluable there.

Forwards in this day and age need to be able to tie the ball up CB ,Utai going low just creates more 2nd phase which is even worse for the Tigers imo

How about playing players in their right positions if we lose a prop we pick a prop ,personally we'd be better off with Spence than Utai in my opinion

 

[Black_n_White]

Good observation Ink. Pettybourne looked to offer a stop gap solution for mine, but I found he tires quite easily. Much better utilised as a wide running backrower steaming at the little blokes.

It's unconventional, but I believe Utai could be the man we're looking for. A tireless battering ram that is keen to run it back twice a set for the last 10 mins of each half. He thrives on it, and would be far more effective drawing numbers of defenders due to his height. If only he had a good offload…

If we lost another starting prop during a game Utai would get eaten alive defensively if he had to play 40-50 minutes

Would he really though? They tend to pack hunt in the middle and Utai is really only a liability when his man gets outside of him. Train him to tackle low and he'll be invaluable there.

Forwards in this day and age need to be able to tie the ball up CB ,Utai going low just creates more 2nd phase which is even worse for the Tigers imo

How about playing players in their right positions if we lose a prop we pick a prop ,personally we'd be better off with Spence than Utai in my opinion

So in your opinion what is Utai's best position? Honestly curious… He is FG just not a winger....

 

[fergiefurr]

Bell is an honest player but he isn't a prop in today's game, he is a lock. Blair has been great there this year so you don't move him. Woods is fine, Buchanan is above expectations, but he isn't a 60min a game first grader…nor should he be expected to be. Ava looked good but he played what.. 15-20mins?? BMM should be used there IMO, he is big enough and he won't let us down.

But yeah, we definitely need to do some looking around.

 

[innsaneink]

Its a shame that you had a shot at 'poor recruitment'' as it discredits the subject of the post which few could disagree with. If anyone could anticipate that a side would lose 3 props from its top 25 before a ball was kicked then you should be getting them to buy lottery tickets for you.

Its a telling factor imo….we have little to no **experience** in the front row, take out Kilo (160 games) and woods (48 )

The recruitment is poor....Anasta & Blair have hardly set the worl on fire....sorry you dont like my post, I dont like what Im seeing

 

[happy_tiger]

Again we are still all Sheensified Utai is a winger 10 years in grade as a winger

Props are trained to play prop so they are best suited to playing prop when called upon ,even if they are inexperienced

 

[tig_prmz]

no to utai for sure.

just thinking of him defending in the ruck for even 1 set seems like a horror movie to me

 

[MacDougall]

People forget Groat. In his first regular stint as a top grade prop he was admirable. It gradually wore him down. To think different of Buchanan is silliness. The next time Groat rises to the level of a first grader he'll show doubters. Dunno what to do with Buchanan to prevent similar issues as we don't really have a starting prop to toss in instead of him. I don't think any active options are better.