Wests Tigers CEO won't confirm SFS final

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@chris said:
let's look at the "wests tigers" record at leichhardt not balmain's

2010 played 3 won 3 (canberra, nth qld, cronulla)
2009 played 3 won 2 (melbourne, nth qld), lost 1 (penrith)
2008 played 3 won 1 (gold coast), lost 2 (new zealand, cronulla)
2007 played 3 won 1 (north queensland), lost 2 (manly, souths)
2006 played 3 won 3 (melbourne, manly, souths)
2005 played 3 won 2 (manly, souths), lost 1 (melbourne)
2004 played 4 won 4 (manly, parramatta, melbourne, souths)
2003 played 5 won 1 (cronulla), lost 4 (canberra, brisbane, manly, souths)
2002 played 5 won 3 (parramantta, northern eagles, melbourne), lost 2 (penrith, souths)
2001 played 6 won 3 (melbourne, nth qld, northern eagles), lost 3 (parramatta, dragons, cronulla)
2000 played 7 won 5 (auckland, canberra, penrith, northern eagles, cronulla), drew 1 (parramatta), lost 1 (nth qld)

you tell me where in that list the roosters appear in any shape or form. If you want or anyone want to carry any facts before 2000 you are dead set kidding yourself. Sincas was talking about more recent times and this shows that the roosters have never played at leichhardt against the wests tigers so ed's "facts" are pointless and only used to push his pathetic argument.

but the difference between the old girl as a semis destination and the 45 games you have chosen as a reference is we will lack the one thing that always gave us the edge at leicchardt and that is the home fan numbers.please read pratten parks earlier post for a reference.
 
Ok if Ed wants to use facts from 20-30 years to prove that Leichhardt doesnt worry them then he's right. Let's forget what's happened bewteen 2000 till now. The Roosters will come to Leichhardt not worried about playing there because they were successful at Leichhardt 20-30 years ago. Being honest I dont care where they play, my problem is that a member got lambasted for using full facts over an argument started by half facts.
 
The Roosters have only won one game at Drummoyne Oval (1 win, 1 draw, 3 losses)
My vote is we play them there
 
@gary bakerloo said:
@chris said:
i feel the need to stick up for sincas in this instance. All sincas did was correct ed with facts. Everyone is open to their own opinion but when only half the facts are presented to prove a point then that person is open to be corrected, especially when the facts used originally are from 22 years ago! What i think is tragic is that the same person who was proved wrong to attack another member's passionate support for a player in the team. Some people here dead set need to grow up.

sorry, but what ed provided was factual, it's just the interpretations were different. Ed has taken a purely quantitative view that was correct.

A record at a ground is still a factual record. Easts have won 46% of their games at leichhardt since 1934\. On a statistical basis, the ground is not too daunting for them.

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@chris said:
ok if ed wants to use facts from 20-30 years to prove that leichhardt doesnt worry them then he's right. Let's forget what's happened bewteen 2000 till now. The roosters will come to leichhardt not worried about playing there because they were successful at leichhardt 20-30 years ago. Being honest i dont care where they play, my problem is that a member got lambasted for using full facts over an argument started by half facts.

some people need to grow up chris i think you are right.which ones im not so sure.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Ok. I will just post my previous post:

@Gary Bakerloo said:
Sorry, but what Ed provided was factual, it's just the interpretations were different. Ed has taken a purely quantitative view that was correct.

Do you consider Balmain's stats in the 90's and 80's relevant to Wests Tigers playing a final against the 2010 Sydney Roosters after they have not played at the ground in over a decade?

If so, that is a long bow to be drawing. Hope about we compare it with Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters in 2010 at the SFS - where they beat us twice from two attempts?
 
Sincas, stats are stats doesnt matter how old or relevant they are to today. Sometimes it's easier putting a square block into a round hole. :brick:
 
I'd obviously love to see a home semi at Leichhardt full of Wests Tigers fans but i'm not overly concerned if we do play it at the SFS or Campbelltown. There are strong arguments for the SFS but i hope we are not playing a Sydney team there and giving them an equal footing. Given the fact that the other teams members get equal chance to buy tickets, i think the SFS may make more sense and if we can get $250k as well, then that is a nice bonus. I'll leave it to the CEO and Board to work this one out.

I just don't think using irrelevant stats is helping this thread. And if you are going to use the stats, i'll shed some real light on them by exposing the fact that they do not include a single game by the Wests Tigers club.
 
@Sincas said:
Do you consider Balmain's stats in the 90's and 80's relevant to Wests Tigers playing a final against the 2010 Sydney Roosters after they have not played at the ground in over a decade?

Yes. Some clubs for whatever reason, have a good/poor records at certain venues. For example, Cronulla cannot win at Brookvale (6 from 37) and St. George-Illawarra have won only 4 from 23 in Canberra.
 
Wish parra were in the mix, we could play em at Lidcombe, they found it tricky there for a while. :unamused:

Put your money on the SFS
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Sincas said:
Do you consider Balmain's stats in the 90's and 80's relevant to Wests Tigers playing a final against the 2010 Sydney Roosters after they have not played at the ground in over a decade?

Yes. Some clubs for whatever reason, have a good/poor records at certain venues. For example, Cronulla cannot win at Brookvale (6 from 37) and St. George-Illawarra have won only 4 from 23 in Canberra.

ok, lets work out where the Roosters have the worst winning record against Balmain and Western Suburbs in the 80's and 90's out of SFS, Leichhardt and Campbelltown and lets play there.. 😱pen_mouth:

I've seen some irrelevant posts on here before but these are up there with the best.

For the sanity of everyone else, i'll end my rant after this post but according to rleague stats - http://stats.rleague.com/rl/teams/balmain/balmain_bt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Balmain won 4 of their last 12 at Leichhardt against the Roosters with wins in 84, 86, 88 and 90 (**not the 2 as previously quoted**). By the way, where did Ed Reschs get his stats?

How those stats are relevant to where we choose to play our 2010 home semi or the price of fish and chips i'll leave to you.

According to the same stats website, our record as WESTS TIGERS against the Roosters since 2000 is:

SFS - 2 from 6
CS - 2 from 5
LO - 0 from 0
ANZ - 2 from 4.

End rant.
 
@TheDen said:
Prattenpark that is an excellent point. Anyone know how many ticketed members the likes of the Roosters and Manly have?

as at 1 March 2010

WT 4617
Roosters 2804
Manly 2686

Not big figures there but they would have increased a tad since then.
 
Hey!
…and dont forget the Maggies beat em there in '77...theres another tick! :wink:

![](http://www.eraofthebiff.com/p-int6-5.jpg)
 
@magpie mania said:
@jackyg said:
@willow said:
it's understood the tigers would be against playing at the sfs if they were facing the sydney roosters in the first week of the finals, as it is their home ground as well.

shoudn't it be the other way round? Playing a home final against the roosters makes about as much sense as playing home games against the warriors in nz.

huh.

woops. I meant playing a home final agaiinst the foosters AT THE SFS makes no sense but the article is saying they would definitely play it there if we verse the roosters
 
@innsaneink said:
Hey!
…and dont forget the Maggies beat em there in '77...theres another tick! :wink:

![](http://www.eraofthebiff.com/p-int6-5.jpg)

:laughing: this is going so well…..

Leichhardt 100% finals record against the Rorters....I'm sold... :wink:
 
@Sincas said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Ok. I will just post my previous post:

@Gary Bakerloo said:
Sorry, but what Ed provided was factual, it's just the interpretations were different. Ed has taken a purely quantitative view that was correct.

Do you consider Balmain's stats in the 90's and 80's relevant to Wests Tigers playing a final against the 2010 Sydney Roosters after they have not played at the ground in over a decade?

If so, that is a long bow to be drawing. Hope about we compare it with Wests Tigers vs Sydney Roosters in 2010 at the SFS - where they beat us twice from two attempts?

From memory (though the game was so bad im trying to forget it) we played the at Campbelltown this year, where they beat us. Guess we cant take the game there. Though im sure we wouldnt, as its probably a home game for most of the Roosters players.
 
Where do the players like playing: Leichardt
Where do the supporters like going: Leichardt
What gives us a fair advantage as a homeground: Leichardt
 
@tig_prmz said:
Where do the players like playing: Leichardt
Where do the supporters like going: Leichardt
What gives us a fair advantage as a homeground: Leichardt

Where do other teams hate playing us?
 

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