Yeah you have a good point eye..I mean look at grumpy tiger here…
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happy_tiger
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Totally agree I've been sticking the boot in Geo and maybe if we start making people accountable down at Concord they might actually listen for a change
Seems like the truth is a touch too hard to accept for some fans :bawling
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Don't tell me..send Pascoe an email..then see how it changes..his reply should be interesting..
Good crowd there today enjoyed the Sun…
sideline_eye
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Well, Happy, I can understand your frustration but this thread is about the hiring of a new coach. I didn't have you in mind when I made the post, more the ones who were spilling their beer over a rumour that Ivan Cleary was going to the Bulldogs. The rumour, it seems, has been scotched by the Bulldogs denial but I don't expect the kicking to stop in the near future because the club, presently, isn't meeting the forum's deadline.
Will it stop when Cleary is officially appointed? Doubtful.
happy_tiger
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Yes I suspect his nose would look like his namesakes Lenny's after he replied
851
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2GB reporting Cleary to be announced Weststigers coach in next few days, possibly even today.
bigsiro
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I see no reason why Cleary shouldn't be announced asap.
Last week Ivan Cleary was an unemployed coach sacked from his last job. Now supposedly he's in a tugofwar for his services. If the Dogs want him so be it. He's a good option, not the best. I'd be more than happy with Des if he gets the elbow. I'd love for us to be in a position where we're sacking a man with a record of consistent finals appearances and grand final appearances in recent years.
GNR4LIFE
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I can see the club holding off on an announcement this week. The announcement has to be next week at the absolute latest.
avocadoontoast
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The longer this goes on the more of a circus it will become. It is imperative that this is done ASAP.
gallagher
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A deal should have been done before they sacked Taylor. If that's the case then just announce it. God they fart around a lot.
851
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My view exactly, get a coach get some accountability and get signing players for next year, even make something out of this year.
jirskyr
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Let's start this year to be the club where we hire talent that wants to be here and give 100% every week. If Cleary wants to go elsewhere so be it. Same with the footballers, you want to leverage us for your average performances, fine, go elsewhere… at this time I'd rather a medium-talent battler like Darren Senter than some of the show ponies that we have prancing around.
jirskyr
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Chammas at SMH saying Tigers ramping up negotiations w Cleary this week. Though if he uses the phrase "poisoned chalice" one more time I'm going to have to punch him in the face, I've already posted figures on other clubs that have gone through as many or more coaches than we have in the same period of time.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/wests-tigers-players-have-coach-jason-taylors-blood-on-their-hands-20170326-gv6s6t.html
Wests Tigers players have coach Jason Taylor's blood on their hands
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The Wests Tigers players were adamant Jason Taylor's blood wasn't on their hands. But judging by their start to Sunday afternoon's clash against the Melbourne Storm at Leichhardt Oval, it is all over them.
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As Ivan Cleary mulls over taking on the poisoned chalice that is the Wests Tigers coaching job, he must be having reservations about taking control of a team that picks and chooses when to fight and when to lay down.
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The Melbourne Storm ran in three second half tries to overturn a first-half deficit against the West Tigers at Leichhardt Oval.
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For the first 39 minutes, the Tigers fought. Everything was going their way. But when the chips were down and fortunes changed, the Tigers just didn't have the stomach to claw their way back.
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The first half was everything Tigers fans wanted to see. But the performance said more about how the Tigers felt about their old coach rather than offering any insight into the qualities of their interim one.
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If he was watching, Taylor must have been sitting at home wondering, 'Where the hell has this been?' as the players put their bodies in places that seven days earlier they wouldn't have even considered.
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"It's easy to come out this week when your back is against the wall and say we're going to react," captain Aaron Woods said. "It was a big week … it's easy to get up for these sorts of games. But it's how we're going to react next week when it dies down just a little bit," he said.
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Regardless of how pleased the Tigers were with a perceived improvement in effort, the same old alarm bells were ringing around Leichhardt as they struggled for answers when questions were asked of them.
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"They wanted to play for each other," interim coach Andrew Webster said after the game.
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But the question should be asked is why haven't they wanted to do so in the past? The "big four" want to know who will be coach before they commit to the Tigers. But judging on performances over the opening month, perhaps it's the coach who should be deciding whether he even wants all four of them to pledge their allegiance to the club.
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"Play for a win, not a contract," one die-hard Tigers yelled from the stands as another loss drew closer.
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**Take nothing away from Webster. He was impressive. But the reality is this won't be his problem in a couple of weeks. It will be Cleary's.\
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The Tigers will begin to ramp up negotiations with the former Panthers and Warriors coach this week, with the board having given the green light to his recruitment.**
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In the aftermath of last week's humiliating loss to Canberra, Woods reflected on a particular moment in the first half in which his side opted against taking a gift two points in favour of an all-or-nothing attacking raid. They came away empty-handed, and the captain was filthy with himself for not stepping in. He knew it was that sort of inability to control games and show cool heads under pressure that was costing the side.
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Fast forward seven days – the Tigers were presented with two penalties inside the first 20 minutes. They took the two both time. It was boring. It was un-Tigers like. But it was the right call.
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It allowed a team that normally gets caught up in the moment to regroup and reassess. It allowed them to control the game, and they were justly rewarded with a try.
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"We stayed calm, built pressure and got points on the board — and that's when the boys started believing in themselves a bit more," the Tigers captain said.
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It was a sign of maturity. It was a team finally taking some accountability for its decisions and performances. And it's about time – because the list of people left to blame is low on names. Robbie Farah – gone. The coach who was apparently enforcing a game plan that didn't suit – gone, too.
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The next few months will be the making of Woods. This is his team, his town and his legacy could well hinge on whether he leads this young team out of the eye of the storm and once again has them dancing to the tune of Eye of the Tiger.
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"That's life in general — not everything is going to go your way," Woods said. "It's how you react and how you come out of those situations. At the moment we have had a few curve balls come our way but it's how we're going to get these boys out of this situation and how I can lead them. I thought today was OK.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/wests-tigers-players-have-coach-jason-taylors-blood-on-their-hands-20170326-gv6s6t.html
Wests Tigers players have coach Jason Taylor's blood on their hands
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The Wests Tigers players were adamant Jason Taylor's blood wasn't on their hands. But judging by their start to Sunday afternoon's clash against the Melbourne Storm at Leichhardt Oval, it is all over them.
>
As Ivan Cleary mulls over taking on the poisoned chalice that is the Wests Tigers coaching job, he must be having reservations about taking control of a team that picks and chooses when to fight and when to lay down.
>
The Melbourne Storm ran in three second half tries to overturn a first-half deficit against the West Tigers at Leichhardt Oval.
>
For the first 39 minutes, the Tigers fought. Everything was going their way. But when the chips were down and fortunes changed, the Tigers just didn't have the stomach to claw their way back.
>
The first half was everything Tigers fans wanted to see. But the performance said more about how the Tigers felt about their old coach rather than offering any insight into the qualities of their interim one.
Related Content
>
If he was watching, Taylor must have been sitting at home wondering, 'Where the hell has this been?' as the players put their bodies in places that seven days earlier they wouldn't have even considered.
>
"It's easy to come out this week when your back is against the wall and say we're going to react," captain Aaron Woods said. "It was a big week … it's easy to get up for these sorts of games. But it's how we're going to react next week when it dies down just a little bit," he said.
>
Regardless of how pleased the Tigers were with a perceived improvement in effort, the same old alarm bells were ringing around Leichhardt as they struggled for answers when questions were asked of them.
>
"They wanted to play for each other," interim coach Andrew Webster said after the game.
>
But the question should be asked is why haven't they wanted to do so in the past? The "big four" want to know who will be coach before they commit to the Tigers. But judging on performances over the opening month, perhaps it's the coach who should be deciding whether he even wants all four of them to pledge their allegiance to the club.
>
"Play for a win, not a contract," one die-hard Tigers yelled from the stands as another loss drew closer.
>
**Take nothing away from Webster. He was impressive. But the reality is this won't be his problem in a couple of weeks. It will be Cleary's.\
\
The Tigers will begin to ramp up negotiations with the former Panthers and Warriors coach this week, with the board having given the green light to his recruitment.**
>
In the aftermath of last week's humiliating loss to Canberra, Woods reflected on a particular moment in the first half in which his side opted against taking a gift two points in favour of an all-or-nothing attacking raid. They came away empty-handed, and the captain was filthy with himself for not stepping in. He knew it was that sort of inability to control games and show cool heads under pressure that was costing the side.
>
Fast forward seven days – the Tigers were presented with two penalties inside the first 20 minutes. They took the two both time. It was boring. It was un-Tigers like. But it was the right call.
>
It allowed a team that normally gets caught up in the moment to regroup and reassess. It allowed them to control the game, and they were justly rewarded with a try.
>
"We stayed calm, built pressure and got points on the board — and that's when the boys started believing in themselves a bit more," the Tigers captain said.
>
It was a sign of maturity. It was a team finally taking some accountability for its decisions and performances. And it's about time – because the list of people left to blame is low on names. Robbie Farah – gone. The coach who was apparently enforcing a game plan that didn't suit – gone, too.
>
The next few months will be the making of Woods. This is his team, his town and his legacy could well hinge on whether he leads this young team out of the eye of the storm and once again has them dancing to the tune of Eye of the Tiger.
>
"That's life in general — not everything is going to go your way," Woods said. "It's how you react and how you come out of those situations. At the moment we have had a few curve balls come our way but it's how we're going to get these boys out of this situation and how I can lead them. I thought today was OK.
I read the article yesterday and disagree with the fact that they have Taylors blood on their hands. I think JT was an outcome of what he did over the last two years. If he delivered what he said he was going to do then he would still be there and others would be gone.
i do agree that the is a make or break moment for Woods, he does carry the team forward and yesterday a couple of the other players stood up as well.
But our problem is defence and a lack of maturity and knowledge from our halves in trying to close out the game. We had a number of back to back efforts inside the Storm 30 and we couldn't get over the line when the score was 14 - 16 and we flunked it. that was the turning point. on the back of that they go full length of the field and score. not once but twice.
i do agree that the is a make or break moment for Woods, he does carry the team forward and yesterday a couple of the other players stood up as well.
But our problem is defence and a lack of maturity and knowledge from our halves in trying to close out the game. We had a number of back to back efforts inside the Storm 30 and we couldn't get over the line when the score was 14 - 16 and we flunked it. that was the turning point. on the back of that they go full length of the field and score. not once but twice.
gallagher
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It sounds like Woods was happy with that effort!
Deary me.
Deary me.
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Have been saying the same thing about our team and coaches for ages, but our own fans were so hell bent on buying into the Farah coach slaying crap that it gave the media fuel to create this BS assumption that our club sacks more coaches than any other. You reap what you sew so our fan base is guilty as anyone for winding this up.
Gordy Tallis in full flight again yesterday accusing the club of being known for sacking coaches wnen we are no worse than most other clubs and not as bad as some.
Plenty of you repeated the same rubbish so good luck getting rid of the title.
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