OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms

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I love this point about fresh blood from the foundation clubs. I’m a Balmain Football Club member and I haven’t been to an AGM since the joint venture started, I have no idea if there are people genuinely interested in representing a club that doesn’t play at NRL level and thus, by my understanding, the people on the board just get re-elected as there’s little or no competition for spots. As these people become too old to serve, or pass away, I don’t know how you find people to replace them as pre 1999 is starting to be a long time ago.
There’s heaps of people within that junior district who are young enough to offer fresh new ideas , yet old enough to do it in a sensible and wise manner .
The hypocrisy of the Balmain board members , literally presiding over a pile of ashes , criticising the HBG for thier shady dealings is hilarious .
No one even knows anything about the Balmain board , how you get on it , how you affect change , how to even run an opposing ticket .
And then you have wests Cambo , who wash thier hands of the whole thing, because 20 odd years ago the club decided it wasn’t the right time to push into that area, ( I honestly think it was the right decision at that time).
Where the tigers messed up , badly IMO, is when the whole Camden valley way corridor and the farmland out there was rezoned for residential housing C and the selling off of Oran Park Racecourse , they didn’t recognise early the strategic advantage of getting hearts and minds early .
Now it all feels like the club is playing catchup , especially because Souths and the roosters have minor footprints out there .
It always seems that this club awaits for change to happen then make a decision , often real late to the party , rather than being forward thinking .
And I honestly think a big reason for that is the “back in my day” group think that happens at all 4 board levels.
Even that Hayward debenture guy , whilst he appeared a gentlemen , he didn’t strike me as being progressive at all , and that there was an undercurrent of resentment and almost begrudgingly he’d come to his more progressive ideas.
I think new blood is needed at all the board levels . And honestly a new generation should be brought through.
How many guys on these boards are under 55 ? Is there any ?
This whole thing is extremely ironic when you consider that 20 years ago , the wests tigers innovated and changed the way the game was played with smart , progressive colouring between the lines footy.
We just never could find a way to transition that ideology to the board rooms.
 
Blow whatever wistles you like but make sure they're grounded on facts and reality.

Seems this forum has become an unofficial propaogator of unite minority movement.
You’re literally off with the fairies !
The forum is in support of a football team that wins more than its fair share of football games .
And as the whole club has been turned on its head several times over the last 25 years , except board level , it’s become obvious the one constant is the board .
Implement the findings of the review and the whole thing goes away .
You’re the only one who is being a propagandist!
 
MM & BZN are the only members on here that have
been opposing change for over a week now. Bit boring.

As you can see that's not right.

And sadly it seems when others try to even support what are similar even nuanced views they are quickly attacked and piled on discouraging others.

Change is a constant and much change already has taken place.
 
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As you can see that's not right.

And sadly it seems when others try to even support are similar even nuanced view they are quickly attacked and piled on discouraging others.

Change is a constant and much change already has taken place.
You don’t want change ! You’re the one advocating for status quo ? How did you do that mental gymnastics in your head ? Nadia Comenici level contortions ….
 
As you can see that's not right.

And sadly it seems when others try to even support are similar even nuanced view they are quickly attacked and piled on discouraging others.

Change is a constant and much change already has taken place.

You know of got time for you & your posts MM. Some
Of them are very insightful, also worrisome when
you look at the divide and where we're heading. I'm
sure cool heads are prevailing & will figure it out soon
 
You know of got time for you & your posts MM. Some
Of them are very insightful, also worrisome when
you look at the divide and where we're heading. I'm
sure cool heads are prevailing & will figure it out soon
Thanks for the kind words and balanced perspective.

Yeah, this is what worried me about the initial process of the petition........not the idea of it but the process............it would be seen as an attack on the ownership group which at least in so far as club unity with the other partner is concerned has done nothing other than been benevolent.

It's division.

This latest petition is worse I'm afraid...........and again not so much in the general idea of a separation of hands on control from HBG to the football club, but rather as a process it seeks to hopefully build pressure to achieve its aims by basically hoping and praying somehow Liquor and Gaming creates issues for the group in order to facilitate the unites movement aims.

Most unattached people would see it as a spiteful attack, there is no doubt. Casual readers drop in and can see the personal attacks against myself and others and the continual denigration of HBG . Had a guy the other day, a dog's supporter tell me he dropped into forum to see what is going on and remarked to me why I waste my time in a Balmain forum. It's obvious.

The truth is Liquor and Gaming began their investigation 10 days or so prior to petition being convened........on the prompting of the 3 suspended directors.......nothing else. Can't say for sure but WA run a tight ship and it's unlikely anything more will come of it ........perhaps some downgrading of suspension. HBG sought lawyers for their investigation who later appointed independent experts in their field regarding that case, very very thorough...........touchy subject.

So even if the petition garnered 100k signatures HBG doesn't have to act so the basic premise of the petition is a form of pressure and hope HBG is tarnished and damaged by Liquor and Gaming.........so it is seen by HBG as spiteful and by former Wests fans as an attack on us by our partners........especially in light of the feeble bid Balmain is entertaining, but treachery non the less.

If any changes to the HBG debenture system or consttitution are decided they will be decided by us following consultation with our general members and later social members as per the constitution Even if any changes are decided new safeguards will be erected to protect the clubs ideals, as all clubs do.

Can't say to much but HBG agreed the review but certain events happened to interfere with its implementation. It was always intended to follow through on them however Danny's leaked email last year, Shane interfering and virtually confirming Barry's appointment as chairman as well as other unfortunate events as described previously delayed the process and meant new safeguards had to be enacted to protect the owners interest and make sure the independents are truly such including from Shane and other members. Nothing is happening from pressure.........HBG needs to appoint 3 directors and this is happening. Even if HBG wanted to appoint directors from the inside following the suspensions and changes no suitable sporting administration people are available.

The petition is just noise and division as is the Kea bid.

Obviously given recent events there will be adjustments ..........they must be so following what has and is transpiring. However the WT board will be independent because the owners decided on such a long time ago but measures have been taken to protect the exchequer and protect the owners interests from collusion from new directors and other parties within and external to the parties.


All I can say re the matter.
 
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The team’s competitiveness looks much worse when you take it forward from 2019. What happened in 2019 to change so dramatically?
Take your pick:

JP was re-instated as CEO

Lee replaced Marina Go as Chair

Michael Maguire replaced Ivan Cleary as head coach

Moses Mbye named club captain

We were fined $350K and had $639K deducted from salary cap over 2 years



There’s many more, the board are not responsible for all of the decisions but they’re responsible for the outcomes and there needs to be accountability at board level.
 
Let me help you guys out. I questioned the qualifations WHOLE board noting that David Gilbert was the most quality candidate on there.

To be frank, I remember not mentioning rick. It was mostly Dennis, Julie, Tony and Vince. (musician, middle manager, estate agent, car salesman) I remember also questioning Stapleton when looking at WT Board.

Please do not misquote me again.

I didn't misquote you......just to jog your memory.

Post in thread 'Lee & JP finally lose the confidence of the Board??' https://weststigersforum.com/thread...he-confidence-of-the-board.35292/post-1852853

You claimed Wayde has been out of private enterprise since 1981.
 
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I didn't misquote you......just to jog your memory.

Post in thread 'Lee & JP finally lose the confidence of the Board??' https://weststigersforum.com/thread...he-confidence-of-the-board.35292/post-1852853

You claimed Wayne has been out of private enterprise since 1981.
You misquoted. How is what I said inaccurate or the same as what you are saying? You know what private enterprise is right?

At the time, I was looking at the other successful boards. The roosters and panthers don't have a similar profile. They basically have all leaders of private enterprise + 1 ex-player (Ricketson + Alexender)
 
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I had a chuckle at Wayde having a swipe at Lee by saying all the leaks had stopped since he was removed.
Then preceeded to leak for the next 45 minutes.
💯 gallagher. Rick Wayde as you know was a champion [to use @Tigerone's term] saviour for the Wests Magpie's all those years ago.
Unfortunately, he seems to have lost all that positivity and has gone to the dark side 😉.
 
You misquoted. How is what I said inaccurate or the same as what you are saying?

Show me where I quoted you in my original post.?

I mentioned in the post you were of the opinion that Wayde had no experience as a sporting administrator..........and I am correct given you said Wayde was out of private enterprise since 81.

Give it up.
 
💯 gallagher. Rick Wayde as you know was a champion [to use @Tigerone's term] saviour for the Wests Magpie's all those years ago.
Unfortunately, he seems to have lost all that positivity and has gone to the dark side 😉.
Someone's word just after losing a position of power is always questionable to me.
 
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Last year. Can't remember the exact wording of his post but basically just came up saying Wayde had no sporting administration experience lol.

Hammered reckons he's a director. Seemingly plenty of directors and club directors on here lol.

But I suppose we're all just directors of our WTF accounts in here. 😃
@hammertime

We will keep it simple.


 
@hammertime

We will keep it simple.


Dude....Show me here I said Rick had no "Sports administration experience". It's only in your reply you dead set muppet!

I said he hadn't been in private enterprise since 1981. Since HBG have already pulled down his profile, I can't recheck. But that is accurate from what I know!!

As I said, if we are trying to mirror the successful modern sporting organisation boards, that is not a persona type that I have seen in them. But I'd certainly rank Rick above most candidates on HBG board as the rep. We are talking WT board here just to clarify
 
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