Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion

@mike said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217159) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

The exist, they are just terrible and predictable.


Agree very predictable, but we also don't seem to have the go forward to trouble teams line when we have to continually bomb away, one good kick all night that led to a try.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

If I could pick any player to come in and make a difference at WT it would be JWH. I hate the bloke but he’s everything we lack. We need a big angry human who doesn’t hide in the centres.

Who would others pick?
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

Musgrove was also pretty handy for us early on.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

There's no one out there dumb enough to take on Packer...oh wait...
 
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217106) said:
@Aesopian said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217070) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217044) said:
@Aesopian said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217027) said:
@Jay said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217008) said:
@The_Return said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216981) said:
@Jay said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216950) said:
Why are people blasting Benji? Did you not see our forwards absolutely out classed? It's like the old days, small forwards except we don't have the speed we used to. Tommy was our worst player clearly. Surely you can't say anyone was worse than Tommy?

They are probably bagging him because of his woeful defence, hospital passes and pathetic 5th tackle options? Just a thought

What other options does he have. What players do we have giving him options? I just think even if we had an amazing half it will be hard to do much with our forward pack. Just totally different league to the Panthers pack. I don't disagree with you I guess it's pretty much our entire roster that's the problem haha. It's not like one player cost us.

Yeah our fwds got chewed up and spat out. There defensive line was covering the 10 mtrs quicker than our pigs were running up. Slow, fat & unfit

We needed to be playing flat on the line ,,,we tried to play with depth and Penrith picked us off because we don't have the speed to get on our oppositions outside


Really stupid footy

Not too smart hey. No adjustment at all.

Looked like Benchie was playing deep at 1st then he’d pass to Brooks who was flat and drifting sideways. Outside men were checked and had to crab across. No inside runners.
We really missed big rusty’s Decoys

We miss that hard running back rower who ran the good lines and helped Brook's running game

That current backrower was making more metres facing backwards than he was when forward tonight and if doesvrun a line, it would often be on the inside shoulder of Benji after he has run sideways past him.
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217168) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

If I could pick any player to come in and make a difference at WT it would be JWH. I hate the bloke but he’s everything we lack. We need a big angry human who doesn’t hide in the centres.

Who would others pick?


Jesse Bromwich - Storm.
Josh Papalii - Raiders.
Dale Finucane - Storm.
Mitch Barnett - Knights.
Jake Trbojevic - Sea Eagles.

Hardgraves - Great player but just don't like him and seems to get away with more because plays for Roosters, if he played for us would give away alot more penalties.
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217168) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

If I could pick any player to come in and make a difference at WT it would be JWH. I hate the bloke but he’s everything we lack. We need a big angry human who doesn’t hide in the centres.

Who would others pick?

Him and other like him. Fonua Blake, Papali, Klemmer, McGuire, Ryan James, Tupouniua, McLean. You would like a couple of them in the pack. Others look better when they take the hit up after these guys.
 
@underdog said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216840) said:
That cannot be given a penalty try. There is NO WAY you can prove he would have 100 percent got there.

And one angle? How can you determine from that far away..

Reffs are taking the absolute piss here

I was livid with that call
 
It’s disappointing, I really thought that our forward pack was going to be better this year than last year, but after a promising start they’ve just regressed so much. I don’t know why, they’re certainly not too small as in previous seasons, but they can’t seem to play together and roll forward as a unit. McIntyre and Leilua are really the only shining lights.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217190) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217168) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

If I could pick any player to come in and make a difference at WT it would be JWH. I hate the bloke but he’s everything we lack. We need a big angry human who doesn’t hide in the centres.

Who would others pick?


Jesse Bromwich - Storm.
Josh Papalii - Raiders.
Dale Finucane - Storm.
Mitch Barnett - Knights.
Jake Trbojevic - Sea Eagles.

Hardgraves - Great player but just don't like him and seems to get away with more because plays for Roosters, if he played for us would give away alot more penalties.

I’d take the first two props before the back rowers, tackles one and two we are so bad for us, We need a front rower doing the tough carry and building the set, not douehi getting taken into touch off a tap ?
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217202) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217190) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217168) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217161) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217136) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward


Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

If I could pick any player to come in and make a difference at WT it would be JWH. I hate the bloke but he’s everything we lack. We need a big angry human who doesn’t hide in the centres.

Who would others pick?


Jesse Bromwich - Storm.
Josh Papalii - Raiders.
Dale Finucane - Storm.
Mitch Barnett - Knights.
Jake Trbojevic - Sea Eagles.

Hardgraves - Great player but just don't like him and seems to get away with more because plays for Roosters, if he played for us would give away alot more penalties.

I’d take the first two props before the back rowers, tackles one and two we are so bad for us, We need a front rower doing the tough carry and building the set, not douehi getting taken into touch off a tap ?


That's why i mentioned the Props 1st
Well that correct AD into touch 1st tackle we cruel ourselves from the back the poor forwards no wonder there gassed.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217201) said:
It’s disappointing, I really thought that our forward pack was going to be better this year than last year, but after a promising start they’ve just regressed so much. I don’t know why, they’re certainly not too small as in previous seasons, but they can’t seem to play together and roll forward as a unit. McIntyre and Leilua are really the only shining lights.

I suspect our team knows they are not good enough and they are playing busted. I think they know what’s coming.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217167) said:
@mike said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217159) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217100) said:
@Auburnon80 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217052) said:
Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

The exist, they are just terrible and predictable.


Agree very predictable, but we also don't seem to have the go forward to trouble teams line when we have to continually bomb away, one good kick all night that led to a try.

Yeah, that was a set play, which made me a little happy that the coach/es had prepared for that.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217201) said:
McIntyre and Leilua are really the only shining lights.

They certainly show more consistency each week,Huth probably next most consistent
 
@Aesopian said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217149) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217123) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217046) said:
I can't be too critical in that game, Penrith are in a different league to us.

It’s the key moments that make west’s tigers the worst

**We had them spooked for most of that 1st half.** Then we niggled and fired them up. Had no answer to them after that. **Lost our heads and mistakes crept in.**

Doueihi's send off was crucial to this and I don't understand why it's not more of a talking point.
I was amazed with his defensive effort just minutes before yet once this happened (regardless of it being a contentious ref decision) it released any pressure we'd put on them.
 
@StarswithStripes said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217210) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217201) said:
It’s disappointing, I really thought that our forward pack was going to be better this year than last year, but after a promising start they’ve just regressed so much. I don’t know why, they’re certainly not too small as in previous seasons, but they can’t seem to play together and roll forward as a unit. McIntyre and Leilua are really the only shining lights.

I suspect our team knows they are not good enough and they are playing busted. I think they know what’s coming.

Get the whiteboard out.

Seriously, just call in the managers. Next year is a rebuild your player (X) isn’t in our plans and will have to get a contract from the reggies. We know that’s not ideal so will give you the rest of the season to sort this out.

Let the 5%ers sort it out
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217201) said:
It’s disappointing, I really thought that our forward pack was going to be better this year than last year, but after a promising start they’ve just regressed so much. I don’t know why, they’re certainly not too small as in previous seasons, but they can’t seem to play together and roll forward as a unit. McIntyre and Leilua are really the only shining lights.

Madge has them playing weird minutes
Blore only played 11 mins ...like what the ?
 
We just need to pause and remember the warriors with all their disruptions, living away from home, players going home, sacked their coach, they are ahead of us, that is embarrassing
 
@851 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1217269) said:
We just need to pause and remember the warriors with all their disruptions, living away from home, players going home, sacked their coach, they are ahead of us, that is embarrassing

But they don’t have weaklings that get forced back in every tackle
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216907) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216807) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion](/post/1216796) said:
Benji runs behind his own player.... Penalty
His last play and brooks last play options kill us.

We have had not 1 tackle in their 20. It limits what your halves can do.


Mate you sound like your on the Tigers payroll.
I call it as i see it - another dumb play by Benji (Retire)

We. don't have the players. I'm a realist. The Panthers play an ttackkng offensive style and referees reward that positivity. Our style is limited by our roster. I mean not one tackle in their 20.


Mate i am going to have to call you out.
This is not the 1st time you have criticized my posts during a game when players are not measuring up.
I seemed to recall you did it last game and reviewed your profile in more detail after the game.

You seem to want to deflect, game plan strategy, Benji's performance and overall team play, when anyone is critical of the team with not only my posts with others as well.

I asked you if you are on the Tigers payroll and i received nil reply. So i read your profile looked at your posts and wonder how the hell you managed to get that many posts since only joining in 2019????

Everyone is entitled to there own observations and stick your nose out of mine in future if your involved with the club as it means your not impartial.
 

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