Wests Tigers v Penrith Rd 16 live game discussion

[Tigerbuck63]

Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure

Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

 

[Moh]

Just watched Madge in the post-match presser. Philosopical about things. Said the team just wasn't goo enough although pleased with the effort. Said he will take a look at the squad's depth over the next few weeks. Suspect we'll see a couple of other players given a go. He used Penrith and Chooks as the yardstick for where they want to be.

Ennis suggesting (and rightly so) that Maguire won't publicly say it, but he doesn't have the roster he wants. Questions being asked of Brooks too.

Yah was good to hear he's going to test our depth.

Brooks has to be shopped, but we're going to struggle to find two good halves.

This is the problem, every other team sees the cattle we have, there aren't too many who would be willing toake Brooks on current form IMO.

I actually think Brooks can find a club that will take the gamble, he might go OK somewhere else.

He's just not for us unfortunately.

 

[Newtown]

Just watched Madge in the post-match presser. Philosopical about things. Said the team just wasn't goo enough although pleased with the effort. Said he will take a look at the squad's depth over the next few weeks. Suspect we'll see a couple of other players given a go. He used Penrith and Chooks as the yardstick for where they want to be.

Ennis suggesting (and rightly so) that Maguire won't publicly say it, but he doesn't have the roster he wants. Questions being asked of Brooks too.

Madge definitely wants to be moving a lot of guys on. He knows the roster ain’t good enough.

Best news that has come out of this match.

 

[happy_tiger]

Why are people blasting Benji? Did you not see our forwards absolutely out classed? It's like the old days, small forwards except we don't have the speed we used to. Tommy was our worst player clearly. Surely you can't say anyone was worse than Tommy?

They are probably bagging him because of his woeful defence, hospital passes and pathetic 5th tackle options? Just a thought

What other options does he have. What players do we have giving him options? I just think even if we had an amazing half it will be hard to do much with our forward pack. Just totally different league to the Panthers pack. I don't disagree with you I guess it's pretty much our entire roster that's the problem haha. It's not like one player cost us.

Yeah our fwds got chewed up and spat out. There defensive line was covering the 10 mtrs quicker than our pigs were running up. Slow, fat & unfit

We needed to be playing flat on the line ,,,we tried to play with depth and Penrith picked us off because we don't have the speed to get on our oppositions outside


Really stupid footy

Not too smart hey. No adjustment at all.

Looked like Benchie was playing deep at 1st then he’d pass to Brooks who was flat and drifting sideways. Outside men were checked and had to crab across. No inside runners.
We really missed big rusty’s Decoys

We miss that hard running back rower who ran the good lines and helped Brook's running game

 

[Tim Sheens]

Hardly ever get to watch our games as I work weekends

But 2 things

Eiso cops a hiding on here but if everyone in our team had his heart we would be right up there

At least he tried

Plays to his limits unlike the majority

McIntyre should be number 13

Yeah, only wish he had wrapped an arm around Luai instead of trying to punish with a shoulder which would have stopped him scoring and Penrith getting that extra lift.

 

[851]

Just watched Madge in the post-match presser. Philosopical about things. Said the team just wasn't goo enough although pleased with the effort. Said he will take a look at the squad's depth over the next few weeks. Suspect we'll see a couple of other players given a go. He used Penrith and Chooks as the yardstick for where they want to be.

Ennis suggesting (and rightly so) that Maguire won't publicly say it, but he doesn't have the roster he wants. Questions being asked of Brooks too.

Sounded like Simpkin might get a run, let’s see if he drops Benji and Brooks

 

[BAGNF05]

42/58 possession
3-6 penalties
1-6 restarts

No chance of winning with those stats.

We also didn't have a forward crack 100m..

Packer's fault

Few forwards went backwards for 100m.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just watched Madge in the post-match presser. Philosopical about things. Said the team just wasn't goo enough although pleased with the effort. Said he will take a look at the squad's depth over the next few weeks. Suspect we'll see a couple of other players given a go. He used Penrith and Chooks as the yardstick for where they want to be.

Ennis suggesting (and rightly so) that Maguire won't publicly say it, but he doesn't have the roster he wants. Questions being asked of Brooks too.

Yah was good to hear he's going to test our depth.

Brooks has to be shopped, but we're going to struggle to find two good halves.

This is the problem, every other team sees the cattle we have, there aren't too many who would be willing toake Brooks on current form IMO.

I actually think Brooks can find a club that will take the gamble, he might go OK somewhere else.

He's just not for us unfortunately.

That would be one of the biggest mistakes the club has made since not ensuring Papenhuyzen ws locked down.

 

[hobbo1]

I can't be too critical in that game, Penrith are in a different league to us.

It’s the key moments that make west’s tigers the worst

 

[Guest]

Just watched Madge in the post-match presser. Philosopical about things. Said the team just wasn't goo enough although pleased with the effort. Said he will take a look at the squad's depth over the next few weeks. Suspect we'll see a couple of other players given a go. He used Penrith and Chooks as the yardstick for where they want to be.

Ennis suggesting (and rightly so) that Maguire won't publicly say it, but he doesn't have the roster he wants. Questions being asked of Brooks too.

Sounded like Simpkin might get a run, let’s see if he drops Benji and Brooks

I think Benji and Brooks both need to go, along with Mbye, although maybe you could argue Mbye goes to the bench as our utility. I think Madden will get a run. Talau either needs a break or goes into the centres to replace Mbye and AJ gets a run on the wing. Not sure who else we have in the forwards who would get a run. Musgrave is due back possibly next week or the week after, that's about it.

 

[Aesopian]

Why are people blasting Benji? Did you not see our forwards absolutely out classed? It's like the old days, small forwards except we don't have the speed we used to. Tommy was our worst player clearly. Surely you can't say anyone was worse than Tommy?

They are probably bagging him because of his woeful defence, hospital passes and pathetic 5th tackle options? Just a thought

What other options does he have. What players do we have giving him options? I just think even if we had an amazing half it will be hard to do much with our forward pack. Just totally different league to the Panthers pack. I don't disagree with you I guess it's pretty much our entire roster that's the problem haha. It's not like one player cost us.

Yeah our fwds got chewed up and spat out. There defensive line was covering the 10 mtrs quicker than our pigs were running up. Slow, fat & unfit

We needed to be playing flat on the line ,,,we tried to play with depth and Penrith picked us off because we don't have the speed to get on our oppositions outside


Really stupid footy

Not too smart hey. No adjustment at all.

Looked like Benchie was playing deep at 1st then he’d pass to Brooks who was flat and drifting sideways. Outside men were checked and had to crab across. No inside runners.
We really missed big rusty’s Decoys

We miss that hard running back rower who ran the good lines and helped Brook's running game

Yes Please!
Pamfers have like 5 of them. Maybe ramjets dad will feel sorry for us and hand one over

 

[Aubanon]

Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward

 

[rustycage]

42/58 possession
3-6 penalties
1-6 restarts

No chance of winning with those stats.

Honestly the refereeing we have copped this year has been so one eyed it’s disgusting. This game has to be up their as one of the worst. I get the NRL want the panthers to succeed , but not to this extent.

They won 28-6, we had one attacking play all game and you’re blaming the refs

Actually if talau reaches over and extends his arm we go up 10-0. No team will ever win a game with 42% possession and has a 12-6 penalty / restart differential.

Is it Mcguires fault we make crucial errors that lead to tries? His fault we can’t hang onto the ball. Is it his fault our halves have only one trick and that is to put a bomb up that never gives the chasers a chance to get there?

Apparently so :face_with_rolling_eyes:

 

[Aesopian]

I can't be too critical in that game, Penrith are in a different league to us.

It’s the key moments that make west’s tigers the worst

We had them spooked for most of that 1st half. Then we niggled and fired them up. Had no answer to them after that. Lost our heads and mistakes crept in.

 

[avocadoontoast]

42/58 possession
3-6 penalties
1-6 restarts

No chance of winning with those stats.

Honestly the refereeing we have copped this year has been so one eyed it’s disgusting. This game has to be up their as one of the worst. I get the NRL want the panthers to succeed , but not to this extent.

They won 28-6, we had one attacking play all game and you’re blaming the refs

Actually if talau reaches over and extends his arm we go up 10-0. No team will ever win a game with 42% possession and has a 12-6 penalty / restart differential.

Is it Mcguires fault we make crucial errors that lead to tries? His fault we can’t hang onto the ball. Is it his fault our halves have only one trick and that is to put a bomb up that never gives the chasers a chance to get there?

yes

 

[BAGNF05]

Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward

We are revolutionising the game with a new tactic, go-backward in the forwards

 

[StarswithStripes]

Well at least the season is over and we are not playing to scrape into the eight in the last round. We can try something different, maybe some new combinations, get a glimpse of what is on the horizon and see where Madge’s head is at for next year.

 

[mike]

Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

The exist, they are just terrible and predictable.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Our issues aren't going to be solved by focusing on 1-7, our problems are clearly 8-13, excluding Luch.

Not having a tackle in their 20 is a forwards failure


Our problem is that we have the worst spine in the NRL.
Inexperienced players like TT that continue to make mistakes he won't be playing next week.
We are lucky that Grant was on loan this season.
No 1 - AD hot and cold again
Both Brooks & Benji dont compliment each other
last play options frankly non existant.

You could put Teddy and Keary into our team, and it would be the same result.

Gotta sort the forwards out first. The hail mary stuff from our backs is a manifestation of our lack of go-forward

Well missing our best forward tonight Josh Aloiai which did not help but agree need a quality aggressive front rower, hopefully we can move on Packer this off season.

 

[hobbo1]

I can't be too critical in that game, Penrith are in a different league to us.

It’s the key moments that make west’s tigers the worst

We had them spooked for most of that 1st half. Then we niggled and fired them up. Had no answer to them after that. Lost our heads and mistakes crept in.

It stared when that pussy milked a high shot from Benji
Then Doooohey choked