What about the penalty count???

[1eyetiger]

Yeah the penalty count was lopsided, how sweet it is to win when you win on grit, guts, spirit, tenacity, determination and most of all for each other. There was no luck in this win and the penalty count makes it ohhh so much sweeter, truly one of my favourite Wests Tigers wins.

 

[tigerlogic]

What about when Munster tripped/back slammed on of our players. I thought that would come under a dangerous tackle or a least not in the spirit of the game

That “trip” is part of wrestling take downs and was beautifully executed!
Nothing wrong with that at all it happens many times each games when players are holding themselves up and defensive players need that take down…
I was more concerned about the TWO times Cam Smith wasn’t square at marker and then made the tackle and wasn’t penalised.. but that’s the influence he has over refs I guess

 

[Geo]

Let’s not forget the dozen looks they had at Brooks try, looking for a reason not to give it.

On that what were they acually looking for..you don't get bunker audio at mthe game and we couldn't work it out with all the rocking and rollling

Was it some sort of obstrution lost ball what…?

 

[Spud_Murphy]

The refs over didit for sure but part of it was tactics from Cleary. If you trust your defence you can give away penalties. What giving away penalties also allows are 2 things
1\. You can set your defensive line
2\. You can have a rest and when your playing high intensity football like we were you need to slow the game down both in the tackle and risk giving away a few penalties.

I think we will see us on the wrong end of a lot of penalty counts because thats how we are deicidng to play and I'm ok with it. THe penalties we need to avoid are any silly ones but the slowing the game down especially on our line im ok with because this year we can back our defence

Didn't the Roosters win a Premiership employing these exact tactics? Most penalised team in the comp when they won if I recall rightly. I wondered how the hell they did it at the time, but I can see why now.

Having to defend set after set must take a physical toll on the team eventually though, I wouldn't want to see such a lopsided penalty count against us every week. I don't think we would last.

 

[kh_canada]

Let’s not forget the dozen looks they had at Brooks try, looking for a reason not to give it.

On that what were they acually looking for..you don't get bunker audio at mthe game and we couldn't work it out with all the rocking and rollling

Was it some sort of obstrution lost ball what…?

They were mostly looking at Rowdy's run for obstruction, then moved onto the put down which they looked at far too many times IMO. I think they were looking at Brook's pick up to make sure it was clean too.

 

[shane2801]

Does anyone think we did it deliberately, especially when they were in our 20 to stop their momentum and expansive plays .

You stole my thunder Snowleopard. I believe a fair number of these penalties were deliberate to slow the game down. Th e Storm are a very quick side choc full of skill. When they get a roll on they are hard to stop.

I think it was smart by Wests if this was indeed the cause of the lopsided penalty count.

 

[kh_canada]

What about when Munster tripped/back slammed on of our players. I thought that would come under a dangerous tackle or a least not in the spirit of the game

Apparently the refs have lodged a protest stating our win was not in the spirit of the game!!

What, really? Is it just because our count was so high? Some of them were ill-discipline for sure, but some were deliberate just like everyone else does it to buy their team time.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Melbourne were offside when defending their own line in the last few minute of the game and were not penalised - the ref put his whistle away. It was so obvious considering we were caned up the other end when we were in the same position.
Scoring that try was close to a miracle yet was so well deserved.

I'd call it justice! We don't always get to see it play out this way in matches, but those deliberately trying to skew the game unfairly lost out big time on this occasion and the good guys won :smiley:

 

[TCL]

Just reviewed the game. Those refs should be sacked.

There were at least 20 or more opportunities to penalise us last night that were let go.

Cammy K and Craig Bellamey will be demanding a meeting with the refs boss this week for sure.

 

[supercoach]

I can live with copping it from the refs if they are being consistent and referring both sides, but I get the feeling they were obsessed with us last night, and yes probably most of the penalties were deserved, but they did not seem to apply the same rules to the Storm.

I just hope the NRL and the refs dont try and change our style because it dosnt suit the image they want

 

[hobbo]

Melbourne were offside when defending their own line in the last few minute of the game and were not penalised - the ref put his whistle away. It was so obvious considering we were caned up the other end when we were in the same position.
Scoring that try was close to a miracle yet was so well deserved.

Agree
The last 5 mins were refereed as if it were golden point .
The game didn't go to the script as what the NRL wanted :laughing:

 

[jirskyr]

Some of the penalties against us were warranted, but in saying that the same rules didn't apply to Melbourne. They were given an eternity in the ruck and were allowed to wrestle. We weren't givena fair chance and it certainly looked as though they were refereeing to an agenda.

No team is that undisciplined that they give away 18 penalties. Shame on the NRL and the referees. But full credit to our boys who overcame incredible diversity to win that game.

Well done to Ivan Cleary for building a team that we can all be proud of.

Well said… My sentiments exactly

That Parra Sharks game I think we're down to 10 men at one stage... Hayne was the ref he'd sent one off and two others binned... Farcical

x2

Personally I felt about half of the penalties were warranted. The others, well if you are going to slam a side like that for ruck indiscretions, then keep it consistent for both sides.

The number of times Melb players stood up pushing forward with the knees or with arm on the footy as they rose up - professional but still illegal.

The one that really got me annoyed was ET in 2nd half being pinged for what the ref called (audibly) "crowding him and pushing him to the side". Are you for real? That's Cameron Smith's textbook tackle work every match every week.

Also the one on Rowdy who put in his own kick, tackled the fullback who submitted, then got pinged for not getting off him fast enough. I mean, how many of those 18 penalties were pressure-relievers when Melbourne were 20m out from their own line?

And then in contrast how many of the penalties we received were for the ruck? I recall a number of head-highs in there, I would hazzard a guess the actual ruck penalties were 14-4.

 

[earl]

Let’s not forget the dozen looks they had at Brooks try, looking for a reason not to give it.

I just heard Brooks say they were looking for a reason not to give it. There was an effort to gift that game to Melbourne and we won.

 

[diedpretty]

There was penalty that stuck in my mind - it was in Melbs 20 mtr zone at around the 70 min mark. Whoever played the ball was facing the sideline and we got penalised for not having the markers square - it was laughable.

 

[diedpretty]

Let’s not forget the dozen looks they had at Brooks try, looking for a reason not to give it.

On that what were they acually looking for..you don't get bunker audio at mthe game and we couldn't work it out with all the rocking and rollling

Was it some sort of obstrution lost ball what…?

They were mostly looking at Rowdy's run for obstruction, then moved onto the put down which they looked at far too many times IMO. I think they were looking at Brook's pick up to make sure it was clean too.

They were also looking at Brooks pickup and whether he may have knocked it forward in to Chambers arm and regathered. It was pretty conclusive that he didn't but they still checked it 4 times.

 

[LARDS]

Yeah the penalty count was lopsided, how sweet it is to win when you win on grit, guts, spirit, tenacity, determination and most of all for each other. There was no luck in this win and the penalty count makes it ohhh so much sweeter, truly one of my favourite Wests Tigers wins.

I am struggling to remember a better win since 2005

 

[kh_canada]

Yeah the penalty count was lopsided, how sweet it is to win when you win on grit, guts, spirit, tenacity, determination and most of all for each other. There was no luck in this win and the penalty count makes it ohhh so much sweeter, truly one of my favourite Wests Tigers wins.

I am struggling to remember a better win since 2005

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Which win from 2005?
Rd 3 v Bulldogs
Qualifying Final v Cowboys
Prelim Final v St George
Grand Final v Cowboys

Those 4 games are all up there I think!

 

[stevied]

https://twitter.com/DanGinnane/status/974957675132870657

Thanks mate.
Well that proves it was a rort went wrong.
Watching replay now and just saw lifting tackle on Kev. No difference too one we got penalised for which got them on a roll.

Jyst for record before my time when Easts got rotted in 63 GF the conceded 18 to 7\. So it's in the same ball park with a different result.

A big difference for mine, as the held call was made long beforehand, but Cam was the one lifting the leg, so cannot possibly be a penalty.

It was ridiculous that wasn’t a penalty, he called held when he was standing with both feet on the ground and gets lifted and smashed into the ground.

Who is Dan Ginnane? He should be more sure of his facts. It was the Sharks who were beaten 74-4 not the Eels. I remember it well. Peachey was sent from the field for back chat. Anyway, I agree with the point. There is absolutely no way that the Tigers were more than twice as ill disciplined as the Storm. Clear case of favoring the higher ranked side.

 

[stevied]

Melbourne were offside when defending their own line in the last few minute of the game and were not penalised - the ref put his whistle away. It was so obvious considering we were caned up the other end when we were in the same position.
Scoring that try was close to a miracle yet was so well deserved.

Great parallel. I noticed the Storm encroaching too. So inconsistent and unfair when it was clear that the refs don't have the guts to make the calls when the game's on the line. We were penalised to hell and it got the Storm into the lead. When the Storm commit the same offences and we have a chance to win, the refs turn a blind eye.

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

There was penalty that stuck in my mind - it was in Melbs 20 mtr zone at around the 70 min mark. Whoever played the ball was facing the sideline and we got penalised for not having the markers square - it was laughable.

I agree, I thought that penalty was going our way, just before 1/2 time they did the same and got away with it, also in the 30th min in the 1st 1/2 Melbourne had a player in front of the kick for touch following a penalty, the ref's allowed the Storm to take the kick again,
I haven't reffed or coached for nearly 25 years but in my day with Juniors that was a scrum, when are the NRL going to get fair dinkum and penalise Cam for his interference and march him 10m, do that a few times and he'll back ff.