What if the Magpies were the sole NSw Cup side?

[Swamprat]

I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot and all contracted WT's players were aligned with the Magpies which would equate to BRET getting no funding from WT's for players, would BRET even be able to finance a State Cup side?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Sheens probably didn't want the best State Cup players & NYC graduates playing for a club where they could run off to feed the likes of the Dragons or Raiders next year.

Wests have done nothing to help their cause, and they have only further polarised themselves from the JV.

Wests Tigers as an entity should be present in the top three representations of the game.

Maggies and BRET can take further step back to Bundy Cup and give the WT further autonomy. The Balmain Tigers and Western Suburbs Magpies are dead at the top level, and while I'm not against either representing themselves, this posturing by Wests is only working against the one entity that ensured they were both still represented in some capacity at top level.

 

[Kul]

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[magpie_mania]

I applaud WT for taking the stand this year… WT's realise the future of their brand isn't Western Suburbs or Balmain, but more importantly also realise they need a reserve grade squad assembled playing together week to week. It is my understanding WT placed thier cards on the table, and Magpies decided not to be apart of it. You got what you deserved... Your 2's didn't get you anything!!!

Making stupid threats to provide or facilitate other NRL Franchises only weakens your business relationship with the Wests Tigers, and they will further alienate Western Suburbs. But then again, 0 from 0 = 0... I was just being polite giving you 2's :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i think that the wests leauges and football clubs are just looking at ways to grow both in numbers and financially we have a rapidly expanding junior and residential area(campbelltown)two teams about to play semi final football(sg ball and har mat.) I dont know why all you old balmain faithful get so worried by this because hey now we are the wests tigers.Wests arent going anywhere but wests tigers now maybe if some of you old balmain thuddy duddies can build a bridge and get over wests trying to expand for the greater good of wests tigers this would be a much more entertaining forum and an even more successful jv.

Hey watto heres one thatll keek you going for hours whats 0 - (-2) :crazy :crazy :crazy

 

[Kul]

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[Swamprat]

Sheens probably didn't want the best State Cup players & NYC graduates playing for a club where they could run off to feed the likes of the Dragons or Raiders next year.

Wests have done nothing to help their cause, and they have only further polarised themselves from the JV.

Wests Tigers as an entity should be present in the top three representations of the game.

Maggies and BRET can take further step back to Bundy Cup and give the WT further autonomy. The Balmain Tigers and Western Suburbs Magpies are dead at the top level, and while I'm not against either representing themselves, this posturing by Wests is only working against the one entity that ensured they were both still represented in some capacity at top level.

Sheens' top State cup players and NYC graduates have WESTS TIGERS contracts , contracts that are paid for by the JV and players will "run off" to other clubs regardless . State cup games are watched by all clubs scouts and players are approached regularly, How will having other clubs players make any difference??

Wests have done nothing **but** help their own cause, by staying alive in the State cup as a sole entity means that the district has an open age team with local links and an identity in the region. Having all senior teams playing under the WT banner is what will further "Polarise" the Magpies from the JV. A team that trains solely in the inner West and plays only 4 games a year at C'town is not seen or embraced as a "local" team.

Having said that I am not against Sheens playing all contracted players in a single state cup side, he is the head coach and he should get his way as far as what he feels is best for the NRL side. I have no problem with that side being called the "WT's" either, what I dont agree with is having that side called BRET and getting their players funded by the JV while the Magpies have to fully fund their own State cup side.

 

[galahs]

Sheens probably didn't want the best State Cup players & NYC graduates playing for a club where they could run off to feed the likes of the Dragons or Raiders next year.

And do you think the Magpies would even be considerring the Raiders or Dragons if the Wests Tigers were giving them a fair deal :crazy

 

[galahs]

Sheens' top State cup players and NYC graduates have WESTS TIGERS contracts , contracts that are paid for by the JV and players will "run off" to other clubs regardless . State cup games are watched by all clubs scouts and players are approached regularly, How will having other clubs players make any difference??
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Wests have done nothing **but** help their own cause, by staying alive in the State cup as a sole entity means that the district has an open age team with local links and an identity in the region. Having all senior teams playing under the WT banner is what will further "Polarise" the Magpies from the JV. A team that trains solely in the inner West and plays only 4 games a year at C'town is not seen or embraced as a "local" team.
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Having said that I am not against Sheens playing all contracted players in a single state cup side, he is the head coach and he should get his way as far as what he feels is best for the NRL side. I have no problem with that side being called the "WT's" either, what I dont agree with is having that side called BRET and getting their players funded by the JV while the Magpies have to fully fund their own State cup side.

Exactly.

How is the Wests Tigers actually benefiting the people of South West Sydney.

The area has gone from having 12 NRL matches a year to 6, then 3 and now 4\. Wow!

We went from having a permanent Under 20's team…. now we have one that trains at Concord

And now you want to remove the last full time rep team the area has, to again replace it with a team that trains out of Concord.

So very short sited for an area that needs to be nurtured or will be lost to other codes.

 

[Guest]

It will surely spell the end of Wests in the State Cup if they're going in with this attitude of take it or leave it. A merged state up side would have made things far more transparent than the bickering that has carried on this season.

What do you mean?

Willow are you against the one Wests Tigers State Cup side being the Wests Magpies?

If so, why?

Why would they call a merged state cup side the Wests Magpies bug? If a merger took place then keep it in unison and call it the wests tigers.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

It will surely spell the end of Wests in the State Cup if they're going in with this attitude of take it or leave it. A merged state up side would have made things far more transparent than the bickering that has carried on this season.

What do you mean?

Willow are you against the one Wests Tigers State Cup side being the Wests Magpies?

If so, why?

Why would they call a merged state cup side the Wests Magpies bug? If a merger took place then keep it in unison and call it the wests tigers.

Because Balmain don't care if they fold.

Wests don't want to end their history and limit the association to Liverpool/ MacArthur.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Two great posts by Swamprat and Galahs !!

Brilliantly written!!

Tiger Watto and Cultured Bogan have missed the boat.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Look, Wests Tigers don't give a stuff about Liverpool /MacArthur.

My neice and nephew go to school in Casula and come home every year with a Bulldogs school pack after visits from the Dogs.

Wests Tigers don't give a stuff.

 

[Kul]

So what's supposed to happen to all those kids from Ryde through to Glebe, from Lane Cove through to Five Dock?
Are they meant to aspire towards playing for Campbelltown?

What happens to the next Robbie Farah, the next Aaron Woods or Matt Hyland?

What happens to the proud nurseries of Holy Cross, Balmain PBC or the Leichhardt Wanders?

The latest Planning Department stats shows that whilst the Macarthur region's population is stagnant, the Inner Wests is booming!
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*entire post is a rehash of Wests fans from the last couple of years and is equally as valid

 

[Kul]

Bug, why don't Wests fold their State Cup side and invest the cash into more junior development?

 

[Vicious]

Two great posts by Swamprat and Galahs !!

Brilliantly written!!

Tiger Watto and Cultured Bogan have missed the boat.

I was about to try and explain it exactly how Swamprat and Galahs have.
It`s got me beat why others posting on this topic don`t understand this ???

Personally I don`t think the name of the side is the big issue, I`m fine if they want to have one State Cup side and call it the Wests Tigers, BUT I strongly believe they should be playing the majority of their home games out of Campbelltown to keep a strong connection with the people of the Campbelltown region.

This does not suit me personally as I live 15mins from Leichhardt Oval and love watching rugby league played there, I`ve lived my whole life in the Balmain junior rugby league district, I played all my footy in the Balmain junior rugby league and my son now plays in the Balmain junior rugby league.
At NRL level the home games should always be split 50/50 between Leichhardt and Campbelltown, the atmosphere at Leichhardt Oval is second to none, BUT the Wests Tigers need to keep a close connection with the Campbelltown region and in my opinion the best way of doing that is to ensure their presence by having as much football as possible at the highest level possible be played out of Campbelltown.
This is only fair when the club is based at Concord in the heart of Balmain territory.

 

[magpie_mania]

So what's supposed to happen to all those kids from Ryde through to Glebe, from Lane Cove through to Five Dock?
Are they meant to aspire towards playing for Campbelltown?

What happens to the next Robbie Farah, the next Aaron Woods or Matt Hyland?

What happens to the proud nurseries of Holy Cross, Balmain PBC or the Leichhardt Wanders?

The latest Planning Department stats shows that whilst the Macarthur region's population is stagnant, the Inner Wests is booming!
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*entire post is a rehash of Wests fans from the last couple of years and is equally as valid

DOCTORS,LAWYERS AND SOLICITORS ASWELL AS COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS MOVE INTO THE INNER WEST NOW KUL.They dont breed rugby league kids, history will tell you that.Please dont mention farah or woods because as great as they are we wont be seeing farahs and woods come out of the balmain area from about 2015 onwards because we will see little jamie parkers and little clover moores coming out of the mummies and daddies of the balmain area(god help us).For you to say mcarthur region is stagnant is incorrect it not only grows outwards it grows upwards and dont forget liverpool is our land.The wests tigers dont care about its most important commodity and that is the people of the mcarthur area as this is where wewill find our next rugby league champions.Your rehash of wests fans call just shows that you know what you wrote wasnt right.

 

[galahs]

Why does it have to be a merged team.

If Balmain can't afford to kick around in the NSW Cup, why can't the Magpies be the sole feeder for the Wests Tigers.

 

[Vicious]

Why does it have to be a merged team.

If Balmain can't afford to kick around in the NSW Cup, why can't the Magpies be the sole feeder for the Wests Tigers.

What would be the problem if the sole State League side is named "Wests Tigers" providing 80%-90% of the home games are played out of Campbelltown ?

 

[thinkbig]

If I was Ryde Eastwood Leagues Club I would want to know where my money is going…It certainly isn't going to the Balmain State Cup side. It's ridiculous no wonder there has been a mass exodus over the last two years.

 

[magpie_mania]

Two great posts by Swamprat and Galahs !!

Brilliantly written!!

Tiger Watto and Cultured Bogan have missed the boat.

I was about to try and explain it exactly how Swamprat and Galahs have.
It`s got me beat why others posting on this topic don`t understand this ???

Personally I don`t think the name of the side is the big issue, I`m fine if they want to have one State Cup side and call it the Wests Tigers, BUT I strongly believe they should be playing the majority of their home games out of Campbelltown to keep a strong connection with the people of the Campbelltown region.

This does not suit me personally as I live 15mins from Leichhardt Oval and love watching rugby league played there, I`ve lived my whole life in the Balmain junior rugby league district, I played all my footy in the Balmain junior rugby league and my son now plays in the Balmain junior rugby league.
At NRL level the home games should always be split 50/50 between Leichhardt and Campbelltown, the atmosphere at Leichhardt Oval is second to none, BUT the Wests Tigers need to keep a close connection with the Campbelltown region and in my opinion the best way of doing that is to ensure their presence by having as much football as possible at the highest level possible be played out of Campbelltown.
This is only fair when the club is based at Concord in the heart of Balmain territory.

I agree 100% with vicious i live 5 minutes from leicchardt but campbelltown needs a stronger presence. the nsw cup should be merged and called the wests tigers and play out of campbelltown and all schoolkids should be given free entry passes for the year and be given these from school visits from the players.We need to look at forwards more and backwards less.