What if the Magpies were the sole NSw Cup side?

[galahs]

I understand that having one NSW Cup side for the Wests Tigers may be in its best interest, but it isn't in the Liverpool/Macarthur/Southern Highlands regions best interest if its based at Concord or Leichhardt. And this region in an area we need Wests to maintain control off.

Now if we were to continue as the Magpies in the NSW Cup without the addition of a few fringe NRL players we would never be competitive and that would also be bad for junior development. For good players to develop into better players they need to have better players around them they can learn off and start to learn how to win. Develop a winning culture.
If Wests Tigers wont provide those fringe NRL players needed, then I guess the Magpies would be well within their rights to look elsewhere for those players.

The Wests Tigers solution to this problem…
Either let the Magpies be their sole NSW Cup feeder
or have a Wests Tigers NSW Cup team and base it out of Macarthur.

Simple really.

 

[galahs]

Then Airds' finest will have something to aim for…

Mate derogative posts like that doesn't help do anything but widen the divide.

 

[Geo]

Ummm…..what does it matter where it is based....Magpies train at Warwick Farm and their head office is at the Witlham Centre in Liverpool...no where near Cambo really....

The State Cup side should be based where the NRL side is....so that they get the experience

 

[galahs]

And what ever happened to the plan to move the Wests Tigers HQ to the Macarthur????????

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Ummm…..what does it matter where it is based....Magpies train at Warwick Farm and their head office is at the Witlham Centre in Liverpool...no where near Cambo really....

The State Cup side should be based where the NRL side is....so that they get the experience

Someone quoted the 20's might be based long term at Campbelltown. Do you feel this is to facilitate the State Cup Squad training fulltime with the NRL Squad? (would make sence)

 

[galahs]

Ummm…..what does it matter where it is based....Magpies train at Warwick Farm and their head office is at the Witlham Centre in Liverpool...no where near Cambo really....

The State Cup side should be based where the NRL side is....so that they get the experience

Its a bit rich for Players with fulltime jobs working in Sydney's South West having to travel in to Concord for training.

Why would they bother when other rep sides like Cabramatta, Wentworthville or the Bulldogs are closer???

 

[galahs]

Someone quoted the 20's might be based long term at Campbelltown. Do you feel this is to facilitate the State Cup Squad training fulltime with the NRL Squad? (would make sence)

Probably

 

[matty119]

Ummm…..what does it matter where it is based....Magpies train at Warwick Farm and their head office is at the Witlham Centre in Liverpool...no where near Cambo really....

The State Cup side should be based where the NRL side is....so that they get the experience

Its a bit rich for Players with fulltime jobs working in Sydney's South West having to travel in to Concord for training.

Why would they bother when other rep sides like Cabramatta, Wentworthville or the Bulldogs are closer???

I think you've missed the point here.

A Wests Tigers State Cup side would be in place so that Wests Tigers, not Balmain or Wests, would run them. The point is to ensure we have a streamlined pathway for our players, and this Wests Tigers State Cup side would be all of full time players, hence the NRL squad of 33-35 players. Therefore where they work isn't an issue, because they work where WTs work. There also wouldn't be the issue of locality, because it wouldn't be made up of all Balmain or Wests players, rather fringe first graders, a number of whom after the first year or so wouldn't have a connection to either club.

Having a single Wests or Balmain State Cup side, or one based solely at Campbelltown or Leichhardt, would defeat the purpose that WTs are trying to get at, and that is two full time squads of players and a part-time NYC squad under one roof, that of WTs, wherever it may be located.

This could have been achieved some years ago if not for the stubborn nature of the Wests Magpies representatives on the WT board.

 

[Vicious]

Ummm…..what does it matter where it is based....Magpies train at Warwick Farm and their head office is at the Witlham Centre in Liverpool...no where near Cambo really....

The State Cup side should be based where the NRL side is....so that they get the experience

Its a bit rich for Players with fulltime jobs working in Sydney's South West having to travel in to Concord for training.

Why would they bother when other rep sides like Cabramatta, Wentworthville or the Bulldogs are closer???

I think you've missed the point here.

A Wests Tigers State Cup side would be in place so that Wests Tigers, not Balmain or Wests, would run them. The point is to ensure we have a streamlined pathway for our players, and this Wests Tigers State Cup side would be all of full time players, hence the NRL squad of 33-35 players. Therefore where they work isn't an issue, because they work where WTs work. There also wouldn't be the issue of locality, because it wouldn't be made up of all Balmain or Wests players, rather fringe first graders, a number of whom after the first year or so wouldn't have a connection to either club.

Having a single Wests or Balmain State Cup side, or one based solely at Campbelltown or Leichhardt, would defeat the purpose that WTs are trying to get at, and that is two full time squads of players and a part-time NYC squad under one roof, that of WTs, wherever it may be located.

This could have been achieved some years ago if not for the stubborn nature of the Wests Magpies representatives on the WT board.

They can be based at Concord along with the 1st Grade & u/20`s but should be playing the majority of their home games at Campbelltown to make their presence known & seen in the Campbelltown region.

 

[happy_tiger]

Has anyone thought of maybe playing one side in Qld Cup Might be a way of picking up some budding juniors from up this way and prevent to the 2 sides clashing as well Just an idea ??

 

[galahs]

The NSWRL doesn't want NSW based NRL clubs using Qld Cup as a direct feeder anymore.

As for all NSW Cup players being on full time contracts. Are you kidding me!
Even if their is only one NSW Cup side, most of them will still only be on match payments.

 

[Fadge]

What if Wests Magpies become a feeder club for Saints or Raiders , whats the big deal the only players who would go to that Nrl team would be ones signed to that team. If Balmain has no soul anymore we really cant expect the Magpies to sell theirs as well.I say good luck to the Magpies in the fight to protect their history,Newtown do it Norths do it if the Magpies can do it I cant see the problem.

 

[tiger4ever]

I applaud WT for taking the stand this year… WT's realise the future of their brand isn't Western Suburbs or Balmain, but more importantly also realise they need a reserve grade squad assembled playing together week to week. It is my understanding WT placed thier cards on the table, and Magpies decided not to be apart of it. You got what you deserved... Your 2's didn't get you anything!!!

Making stupid threats to provide or facilitate other NRL Franchises only weakens your business relationship with the Wests Tigers, and they will further alienate Western Suburbs. But then again, 0 from 0 = 0... I was just being polite giving you 2's :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Lawrence ACE, Fulton ACE Gibbo ACE Dwyer KING Fifita KING…..full house of Wests Magpie jnrs with more on the way....pfffft 2's

once again you claiming fulton as a junior when hes born and bred in the greystanes area so hes a parramatta junior and fafita born in the parramatta area and played in griffith so how the heck you say they are wests juniors.GEO

Every team losers juniors to other clubs its nothing new it has nothing to do with wests tigers so called shabby treatment of the macarthur area SO WAKE UP.

Im so sick of these old wests fans AND IT IS ONLY THEM on here complaining about not getting a fair share and tell me what they did with all their so called juniors when they were not affiliated with balmain.I will tell you sweet _**[edited by Mod]**_ all they run last every year and the football club couldnt afford to keep any players.They were perrenial losers.very lucky to have a club to follow at all.

Simple solution when every team is made to field a nsw cup side next year is merge balmain and wests and its what lamb and sheens have both said would be the best thing for the wests tigers which is the club we all should be following.The only time i would support one teamin the nsw cup is if its Wests tigersnot balmain or wests

someone tell me how many true wests juniors are playing for brett in the nsw cup and vise versa?

Wake up guys how successful was either club before they joined.

 

[tiger4ever]

What if Wests Magpies become a feeder club for Saints or Raiders , whats the big deal the only players who would go to that Nrl team would be ones signed to that team. If Balmain has no soul anymore we really cant expect the Magpies to sell theirs as well.I say good luck to the Magpies in the fight to protect their history,Newtown do it Norths do it if the Magpies can do it I cant see the problem.

Hows the balmain side sold their sole we still play our footy in our original heartland from 1908 which is more then i can say for the wests side who picked up the c-town area after the newtown jets got booted from the league unfairly so please tell me who sold their soul.

I say let Wests affiliate themselves with another club maybe canberra and having all your juniors travel their every week for training and playing.

Fight to protect what its a lost cause

 

[galahs]

Do you think it's right that an area the size of Liverpool / Macarthur / Southern Highlands has no representation in a NSW State Competition?

To me that is a bigger issue than what is best for the Wests Tigers NRL side. Its about whats best for Rugby League.

 

[tiger4ever]

Do you think it's right that an area the size of Liverpool / Macarthur / Southern Highlands has no representation in a NSW State Competition?

To me that is a bigger issue than what is best for the Wests Tigers NRL side. Its about whats best for Rugby League.[/

Whats the southern higlands got to do with it…..so you claiming that area now to...lol theres whole states without a side and if we had a team called wests tigers there would be a team representing this area.

All this whinging about a reserve grade team.

Galahs answer this what have you guys done with this area when you took over in 83.You so concerned answer

Ok let the nswrl make a southern higlands team if you so worried cause wests are either with wests tigers or they can live alone and die of a slow painful death.newtown and norths dont exist they are souths and easts reserve grade teams using the old clubs name and that will be wests if they go down that track.
You do this every year from memory

 

[magpie_mania]

Do you think it's right that an area the size of Liverpool / Macarthur / Southern Highlands has no representation in a NSW State Competition?

To me that is a bigger issue than what is best for the Wests Tigers NRL side. Its about whats best for Rugby League.[/

Whats the southern higlands got to do with it…..so you claiming that area now to...lol theres whole states without a side and if we had a team called wests tigers there would be a team representing this area.

All this whinging about a reserve grade team.

Galahs answer this what have you guys done with this area when you took over in 83.You so concerned answer

Ok let the nswrl make a southern higlands team if you so worried cause wests are either with wests tigers or they can live alone and die of a slow painful death.newtown and norths dont exist they are souths and easts reserve grade teams using the old clubs name and that will be wests if they go down that track.
You do this every year from memory

87 we took it over and in 87 the area was nothing but cow paddocks compared to what it is now.Its only been the last ten years under the wests tigers not the magpies that the kids have grown to a playing age and the rewards are now only in the early process of showing rewards and those rewards have been massive with wests winning us one premiership already.GIBBS,HODGSON,skandalis and friends.Another reason back in the 90s was wests had no money in spite of this we were club champions in 91 and 92 so we werent withou our success.We also have sg ball and harold matthews in the semis this year after two massive thumpingsd of balmain tigers at leichhardt oval on the weekend.I am sure this has more than soundly answered your questions tiger4ever.

 

[tiger4ever]

Do you think it's right that an area the size of Liverpool / Macarthur / Southern Highlands has no representation in a NSW State Competition?

To me that is a bigger issue than what is best for the Wests Tigers NRL side. Its about whats best for Rugby League.[/

Whats the southern higlands got to do with it…..so you claiming that area now to...lol theres whole states without a side and if we had a team called wests tigers there would be a team representing this area.

All this whinging about a reserve grade team.

Galahs answer this what have you guys done with this area when you took over in 83.You so concerned answer

Ok let the nswrl make a southern higlands team if you so worried cause wests are either with wests tigers or they can live alone and die of a slow painful death.newtown and norths dont exist they are souths and easts reserve grade teams using the old clubs name and that will be wests if they go down that track.
You do this every year from memory

87 we took it over and in 87 the area was nothing but cow paddocks compared to what it is now.Its only been the last ten years under the wests tigers not the magpies that the kids have grown to a playing age and the rewards are now only in the early process of showing rewards and those rewards have been massive with wests winning us one premiership already.GIBBS,HODGSON,skandalis and friends.Another reason back in the 90s was wests had no money in spite of this we were club champions in 91 and 92 so we werent withou our success.We also have sg ball and harold matthews in the semis this year after two massive thumpingsd of balmain tigers at leichhardt oval on the weekend.I am sure this has more than soundly answered your questions tiger4ever.

Yes newtown was using it as a home ground in a attempt to call it home in 82 but when they got booted in 83 it left it open for the other club on the verge of bankruptcy to to claim it the magpies.
lOL you mean to say skandallis gibbs and hodgo is the reason we won in 05 haha very funny.
MAGPIE MANIA its sad that winning the club championship in 91 is the only highlight you can bring up to prove you guys are successful it only makes what i said even more solid.

So what you guys beat us congratulations in harold mats and sgball but who beat who in the nsw cup.

Lol that answers absolutely nothing look at what i wrote….. how does what you say answer anything.

Dont bring past results into the equation you guys have nothing on balmain in any grade.

Mania look who started this thread and who he goes for and you know what because we were far more successful then you guys i sort of expected it more from the balmain side of the merger but it hasnt been on this forum.

 

[galahs]

The Magpies recruit players from the Group 6 competition which covers from Narellan to Moss Vale. last time I checked that was classified as the Southern highlands.

And the Magpies have been developing juniors in this area from Jason Taylor to Simon Dwyer and all those that have come in between.

 

[galahs]

Its interesting how all Balmain fans don't seem to mind the idea of a single NSW Cup side named the Wests Tigers but Wests Magpies fans are concerned.

Why would that be?

could it be that "Tigers" fans know they get the better deal out of it than us from the "Wests" side of the fence?