What if the Magpies were the sole NSw Cup side?

All good to me maybe a name change also to Canberra Magpies or St George Magpies to boot. Aahh a marriage made in heaven
 
Interesting discussion… All theories aside.. Its goes back to a key arguement.. Balmain are keen to give up a nsw cup team as the tigers brand stays alive (and even stronger within WT) wests magpies are fighting to stay alive in NSW cup as its their only form of identity left. BRET becomes a team with no junior base to tap into and because they cant let the magpies brand stay alive by letting wests magpies be the sole feeder club for WT (as they have provided 90% of juniors to WT) the juniors will be going elsewhere.. Its a sad and frustrating dilemma.
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@wtfl1981 said:
Interesting discussion… All theories aside.. Its goes back to a key arguement.. Balmain are keen to give up a nsw cup team as the tigers brand stays alive (and even stronger within WT) wests magpies are fighting to stay alive in NSW cup as its their only form of identity left. BRET becomes a team with no junior base to tap into and because they cant let the magpies brand stay alive by letting wests magpies be the sole feeder club for WT (as they have provided 90% of juniors to WT) the juniors will be going elsewhere.. Its a sad and frustrating dilemma.
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BRET have no junior base to draw on,you obviously havent done any research or you are just assuming that because the campbelltown area has a lot of kids playing the game that wests tigers are going to get all there juniors from that area,i can name you 2 players in your magpies side that are Balmain Juniors :astonished: that goes for the NYC as well,so Balmain do provide juniors coming through just not as many as the Magpies but only just :smiley: :smiley:
 
@Balmain Bug said:
matty119,
Wests Tigers have shown Wests great disrespect by not allocating them a fair share of NRL players. Balmain have shown disrespect also by not insisting Wests get their fair share and taking all of the best NRL players possible.

Wests Magpies wont be forced into folding by Wests Tigers. And if Wests Tigers disgracefully refuse to provide them what is rightfully theirs, they will seek quality players from elsewhere.

That is just complete bulldust. Why is everything that Wests do about them taking from WT? We're trying to work out the best way forward for WT, and having one half of the joint venture providing heavy assistance to one of their fiercest competitors is completely outrageous. If they (Wests Magpies that is, nothing to do with Campbelltown) don't feel they're getting anything from WT, then leave - I'm sure Wests Campbelltown or Ryde Eastwood would be happy to take over their share, and WT would be better for it
 
@Balmain Bug said:
matty119,
Wests Tigers have shown Wests great disrespect by not allocating them a fair share of NRL players. Balmain have shown disrespect also by not insisting Wests get their fair share and taking all of the best NRL players possible.

Wests Magpies wont be forced into folding by Wests Tigers. And if Wests Tigers disgracefully refuse to provide them what is rightfully theirs, they will seek quality players from elsewhere.

Absolutely agree.
 
@tigers05 said:
All good to me maybe a name change also to Canberra Magpies or St George Magpies to boot. Aahh a marriage made in heaven

Nope, we will keep the name Wests Magpies.
 
'Wests Magpies Mercenaries' - nothing new, this is what they have been doing for years :laughing:

Keep up the good work Wests… You have been the laughing stock of the competition for 100 years - Keep the Tradition alive!!!
 
@Tiger Watto said:
'Wests Magpies Mercenaries' - nothing new, this is what they have been doing for years :laughing:

Keep up the good work Wests… You have been the laughing stock of the competition for 100 years - Keep the Tradition alive!!!

Then we wonder why Wests/Balmain arguments start. Seriously, this adds nothing to the discussion.
 
I'm not Balmain… I'm a Queenslander who has always hated the Magpies!

And they are acting like Mercanaries by taking this path... I'd say the Wests boys on the WT Board are probably embarrased by all the goings on out that way. Nothing good will come out of this, other than a continuation of the 'ol boys club' mentality that will most likely see Humpty & Sheens alienate the Magpies further.

Stay in NSW Cup if they like, but aligning themselves with other NRL Franchises isnt appropriate!
 
@Tiger Watto said:
I'm not Balmain… I'm a Queenslander who has always hated the Magpies!

And they are acting like Mercanaries by taking this path... I'd say the Wests boys on the WT Board are probably embarrased by all the goings on out that way. Nothing good will come out of this, other than a continuation of the 'ol boys club' mentality that will most likely see Humpty & Sheens alienate the Magpies further.

Stay in NSW Cup if they like, but aligning themselves with other NRL Franchises isnt appropriate!

Don't the Magpies make up 50% of the JV? Are you saying you hate Wests Tigers?
 
I dont like the guy who ownes the pub down the road, but I dont mind having a beer during happy hour…

The Magpies are 50% owners of the Wests Tigers, but only about 5% of what comes out of the WT's is Magpies, so I can live with that...

As I stated - "Stay in NSW Cup if they like, but aligning themselves with other NRL Franchises isnt appropriate!"
 
@Tiger Watto said:
The Magpies are 50% owners of the Wests Tigers, but only about 5% of what comes out of the WT's is Magpies, so I can live with that…

How do you work that out? Do they teach finance differently in Queensland?
 
Slandering wests people because they are passionate about their club that have supported for decades is not
Called for. I will say it again!! Balmain dont care about identity or survival within NSW cup as they have already blended their identity with ryde eastwood, no real physical leagues club and a small junior league that has been combined with st george district for over 15 years. Balmain have contributed a handful of first grade players to WT have no money yet i do not slander balmain with offensive comments about being a team of non contributors or hopeless like everyone seems to refer to as wests. We are a club of unfortunate circumstances going back decades and a club that wasnt around would mean no WT or any Balmain in top flight rugby league. Respect thr history and traditon of both 1908 clubs.
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Slandering wests people because they are passionate about their club that have supported for decades is not
Called for. I will say it again!! Balmain dont care about identity or survival within NSW cup as they have already blended their identity with ryde eastwood, no real physical leagues club and a small junior league that has been combined with st george district for over 15 years. Balmain have contributed a handful of first grade players to WT have no money yet i do not slander balmain with offensive comments about being a team of non contributors or hopeless like everyone seems to refer to as wests. We are a club of unfortunate circumstances going back decades and a club that wasnt around would mean no WT or any Balmain in top flight rugby league. Respect thr history and traditon of both 1908 clubs.
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@wtfl1981 said:
Interesting discussion… All theories aside.. Its goes back to a key arguement.. Balmain are keen to give up a nsw cup team as the tigers brand stays alive (and even stronger within WT) wests magpies are fighting to stay alive in NSW cup as its their only form of identity left. BRET becomes a team with no junior base to tap into and because they cant let the magpies brand stay alive by letting wests magpies be the sole feeder club for WT (as they have provided 90% of juniors to WT) the juniors will be going elsewhere.. Its a sad and frustrating dilemma.
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Balmain aren't "keen" to do that, they are doing it because it is in the best interests of the WT to do it.
90%? Sure…
 
@wtfl1981 said:
Slandering wests people because they are passionate about their club that have supported for decades is not
Called for. I will say it again!! **Balmain dont care about identity** or survival within NSW cup as they have already blended their identity with ryde eastwood, **no real physical leagues club and a small junior league** that has been combined with st george district for over 15 years. **Balmain have contributed a handful of first grade players to WT have no money yet i do not slander balmain with offensive comments** about being a team of non contributors or hopeless like everyone seems to refer to as wests. We are a club of unfortunate circumstances going back decades and a club that wasnt around would mean no WT or any Balmain in top flight rugby league. **Respect thr history and traditon of both 1908 clubs**.
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:roll
 
Hopefully the new commission brings in a national reserve grade competition to replace the U20s as the structure of the game at the moment is totally wrong.

I would like to see -

National Comps
Wests Tigers NRL
Wests Tigers Reserve Grade
been fed by -
State Comps
Wests Magpies & Balmain Tigers - Jersey Flegg U20s or U23s
Wests Magpies & Balmain Tigers - SG Ball u18s
Wests Magpies & Balmain Tigers - Harold Mathews u16s
 
Agree staks. I personally would be happy with that. I do still however beleive WT needs to give a more fairer exposure to the wests brand WITHIN WT. Even trivial things like better placement and size of the magpie on the sleeve would keep
me satisfied. Perhaps consideration should also be given to place (train etc) the WT reserve grade team at campbelltown and not concord.
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It would make zero sense to train the next level down from NRL at a location an hour away
 
Well i guess concord will be it as they become a reserve grade teAm that follows the NRL side. I only mention it to ensure that WT has a strong grasp on the campbelltown area. If wests magpies merge at nsw cup level then campbelltown will only get 4 nrl games per year and no nsw cup at all.
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