Who should Madge's assistant coaches be for 2022?

[AJ1]

I think Gibbs and/or Fulton would be good around the team. Bring back some lightness to the atmosphere.

Henry, as suggested by a few previous posters, would be a good actual assistant. Seems like a decent fellow also, so unlikely to 'siebold' Madge.

Gibbs/Fulton Brothers >>>> Walker Brothers

 

[cochise]

After seeing Robbie in the doco, his passion and commitment to the club is crucial moving forward. I don't know if he is ready to be an assistant but i would love to see his role increased.

 

[Devon Head]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Ciraldo only now 36yrs old and wouldn't have a third of Robbie's experience in the game. He was given an assistant role at Riff and made caretaker coach in 2018 when Griffin was punted and only a few yrs later considered head coach material.

It's about motivating and unlocking talent and belief in the younger playing group as much as it is teaching the technical aspects of the game. Robbie was always a hard trainer and willing to do whatever it took to win. Not many have a stronger passion for the Tigers than he does.

Ciraldo was asst coach of Penriths u20s for a year and then head coach for the next 2 years. They were minor premiers twice and won a comp. THEN he got the first grade asst job.

He has way more experience and success than Farah as a coach.

I guess the point I was getting at is I personally feel Robbie is made for coaching and although may not have the runs on the board coaching wise he is far superior to Ciraldo with on field experience. Knowing what it takes to succeed at an elite level for an entire career having played in and won a GF, Test series and Origin series.

Having a great playing career means little to being a coach. Pearce, Lamb, Potter abd Taylor all had great careers.

Gotta start somewhere though, Ricky Stuart definitely bucks that trend. To a degree Craig Fitzgibbon, Trent Barrett and Brad Fittler have too and that's just a few great players who've gone on with it as coaches.

Fair to say you have an argument for everything so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

 

[gallagher]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Ciraldo only now 36yrs old and wouldn't have a third of Robbie's experience in the game. He was given an assistant role at Riff and made caretaker coach in 2018 when Griffin was punted and only a few yrs later considered head coach material.

It's about motivating and unlocking talent and belief in the younger playing group as much as it is teaching the technical aspects of the game. Robbie was always a hard trainer and willing to do whatever it took to win. Not many have a stronger passion for the Tigers than he does.

Ciraldo was asst coach of Penriths u20s for a year and then head coach for the next 2 years. They were minor premiers twice and won a comp. THEN he got the first grade asst job.

He has way more experience and success than Farah as a coach.

I guess the point I was getting at is I personally feel Robbie is made for coaching and although may not have the runs on the board coaching wise he is far superior to Ciraldo with on field experience. Knowing what it takes to succeed at an elite level for an entire career having played in and won a GF, Test series and Origin series.

Having a great playing career means little to being a coach. Pearce, Lamb, Potter abd Taylor all had great careers.

Gotta start somewhere though, Ricky Stuart definitely bucks that trend. To a degree Craig Fitzgibbon, Trent Barrett and Brad Fittler have too and that's just a few great players who've gone on with it as coaches.

Fair to say you have an argument for everything so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

They all started in lower grades.

 

[Devon Head]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Ciraldo only now 36yrs old and wouldn't have a third of Robbie's experience in the game. He was given an assistant role at Riff and made caretaker coach in 2018 when Griffin was punted and only a few yrs later considered head coach material.

It's about motivating and unlocking talent and belief in the younger playing group as much as it is teaching the technical aspects of the game. Robbie was always a hard trainer and willing to do whatever it took to win. Not many have a stronger passion for the Tigers than he does.

Ciraldo was asst coach of Penriths u20s for a year and then head coach for the next 2 years. They were minor premiers twice and won a comp. THEN he got the first grade asst job.

He has way more experience and success than Farah as a coach.

I guess the point I was getting at is I personally feel Robbie is made for coaching and although may not have the runs on the board coaching wise he is far superior to Ciraldo with on field experience. Knowing what it takes to succeed at an elite level for an entire career having played in and won a GF, Test series and Origin series.

Having a great playing career means little to being a coach. Pearce, Lamb, Potter abd Taylor all had great careers.

Gotta start somewhere though, Ricky Stuart definitely bucks that trend. To a degree Craig Fitzgibbon, Trent Barrett and Brad Fittler have too and that's just a few great players who've gone on with it as coaches.

Fair to say you have an argument for everything so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

They all started in lower grades.

Lucky we wouldn't be promoting him straight to head coach then I guess. Having a team of assistants such as Henry, Pay and Farah would be a decent mix of experience, steel and passion.

 

[tigerbenji]

Wouldn't mind seeing Flannagan & Robie given a chance.

 

[Demps]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Made a difference already in a smaller role, briefly...

Imagine what he could do in a more hands on role.

Give him a run in reserves then.

You saying he won't have an impact on up and coming players?

Guys done it all.
Tigers man, through and through.

He'd be more impactful than snoopy and co.

He's not a coach.

Neither was Bellamy... then he was.

He'd be an assistant.

They're trying to get help for Madge. Not for Madge to mentor a would be coach.

Not the plan.

Bellamy also coached the raiders u20s before going to the broncos. You seeing a pattern?

No.
I'm seeing the value in using one of our best players to better the current bunch of players.

Guys a natural leader.
Not asking to lead the 20s or head coach us into finals but use the skills he has to empower the current playing group. Show them how to compete and win, show them what it takes to be a first grade.

Farah > anyone in the current coaches box
Madge aside.

 

[Gazza88]

Ok all, now that Madge is safe for now who do you all feel should become his assistants for 2022 and what roles do you see them performing?

e.g. Defence coach, Attach coach, Halves coach, Assistant coach etc.

Why not go hard $$ at Ciraldo anyway? We need
an assistant who will connect with players and attract new talent.

 

[AdelaideTiger]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Ciraldo only now 36yrs old and wouldn't have a third of Robbie's experience in the game. He was given an assistant role at Riff and made caretaker coach in 2018 when Griffin was punted and only a few yrs later considered head coach material.

It's about motivating and unlocking talent and belief in the younger playing group as much as it is teaching the technical aspects of the game. Robbie was always a hard trainer and willing to do whatever it took to win. Not many have a stronger passion for the Tigers than he does.

Ciraldo was asst coach of Penriths u20s for a year and then head coach for the next 2 years. They were minor premiers twice and won a comp. THEN he got the first grade asst job.

He has way more experience and success than Farah as a coach.

I guess the point I was getting at is I personally feel Robbie is made for coaching and although may not have the runs on the board coaching wise he is far superior to Ciraldo with on field experience. Knowing what it takes to succeed at an elite level for an entire career having played in and won a GF, Test series and Origin series.

Having a great playing career means little to being a coach. Pearce, Lamb, Potter abd Taylor all had great careers.

Gotta start somewhere though, Ricky Stuart definitely bucks that trend. To a degree Craig Fitzgibbon, Trent Barrett and Brad Fittler have too and that's just a few great players who've gone on with it as coaches.

Fair to say you have an argument for everything so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Can't say I really have an opinion either way, but to be fair; Fitzgibbon has not yet been an NRL Head Coach, Trent Barrett has had 1 winning season since 2017 and Fittler took the Chooks from the penthouse to the outhouse in one season.
Being a head coach in the NRL is a tough gig.

 

[yeahcaz]

Dean Pay
Farah
Matt Johns , Part time
Henry

Really really hope you don’t mean Neil Henry

 

[Geo]

Firstly an assistant that knows how to coach the new brand of footy .. then an assistant that can communicate with words that have more than 4 letters to a younger generational player.. that could be a start !

Maybe an intragram influencer ...

That can communicate..in words that the bruz can .... understand my og cuzzies hectic n stuff..

 

[TigerWest]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Made a difference already in a smaller role, briefly...

Imagine what he could do in a more hands on role.

Give him a run in reserves then.

You saying he won't have an impact on up and coming players?

Guys done it all.
Tigers man, through and through.

He'd be more impactful than snoopy and co.

He's not a coach.

Neither was Bellamy... then he was.

He'd be an assistant.

They're trying to get help for Madge. Not for Madge to mentor a would be coach.

Not the plan.

Bellamy also coached the raiders u20s before going to the broncos. You seeing a pattern?

No.
I'm seeing the value in using one of our best players to better the current bunch of players.

Guys a natural leader.
Not asking to lead the 20s or head coach us into finals but use the skills he has to empower the current playing group. Show them how to compete and win, show them what it takes to be a first grade.

Farah anyone in the current coaches box
Madge aside.

In the tales of tiger town, Nofo said that when Farah spoke, he really listened, because of what he achieved?

I also assume that meant he didn’t listen to anyone else?

 

[JD Tiger]

Maybe Ciraldo from Penrith has done well because he has been with those young Panthers coming up through the grades, and he knows those players.

Maybe then, our answer should be Gardner, isn't he our juniors coach?

 

[Demps]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Made a difference already in a smaller role, briefly...

Imagine what he could do in a more hands on role.

Give him a run in reserves then.

You saying he won't have an impact on up and coming players?

Guys done it all.
Tigers man, through and through.

He'd be more impactful than snoopy and co.

He's not a coach.

Neither was Bellamy... then he was.

He'd be an assistant.

They're trying to get help for Madge. Not for Madge to mentor a would be coach.

Not the plan.

Bellamy also coached the raiders u20s before going to the broncos. You seeing a pattern?

No.
I'm seeing the value in using one of our best players to better the current bunch of players.

Guys a natural leader.
Not asking to lead the 20s or head coach us into finals but use the skills he has to empower the current playing group. Show them how to compete and win, show them what it takes to be a first grade.

Farah anyone in the current coaches box
Madge aside.

In the tales of tiger town, Nofo said that when Farah spoke, he really listened, because of what he achieved?

I also assume that meant he didn’t listen to anyone else?

Respect is earned.

Can't see anyone saying Farah hasn't earned his respect.

The guy beat up Anthony Watts.

 

[barra]

After seeing Robbie in the doco, his passion and commitment to the club is crucial moving forward. I don't know if he is ready to be an assistant but i would love to see his role increased.

He'd need to have certificate to a certain level? If so then great, if not, until then continue to run the water and do the on-field motivations etc.

 

[Madge]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Ciraldo only now 36yrs old and wouldn't have a third of Robbie's experience in the game. He was given an assistant role at Riff and made caretaker coach in 2018 when Griffin was punted and only a few yrs later considered head coach material.

It's about motivating and unlocking talent and belief in the younger playing group as much as it is teaching the technical aspects of the game. Robbie was always a hard trainer and willing to do whatever it took to win. Not many have a stronger passion for the Tigers than he does.

Ciraldo was asst coach of Penriths u20s for a year and then head coach for the next 2 years. They were minor premiers twice and won a comp. THEN he got the first grade asst job.

He has way more experience and success than Farah as a coach.

I guess the point I was getting at is I personally feel Robbie is made for coaching and although may not have the runs on the board coaching wise he is far superior to Ciraldo with on field experience. Knowing what it takes to succeed at an elite level for an entire career having played in and won a GF, Test series and Origin series.

Having a great playing career means little to being a coach. Pearce, Lamb, Potter abd Taylor all had great careers.

Gotta start somewhere though, Ricky Stuart definitely bucks that trend. To a degree Craig Fitzgibbon, Trent Barrett and Brad Fittler have too and that's just a few great players who've gone on with it as coaches.

Fair to say you have an argument for everything so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

They all started in lower grades.

Lucky we wouldn't be promoting him straight to head coach then I guess. Having a team of assistants such as Henry, Pay and Farah would be a decent mix of experience, steel and passion.

What about the whole dinosaur thing

 

[Devon Head]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Ciraldo only now 36yrs old and wouldn't have a third of Robbie's experience in the game. He was given an assistant role at Riff and made caretaker coach in 2018 when Griffin was punted and only a few yrs later considered head coach material.

It's about motivating and unlocking talent and belief in the younger playing group as much as it is teaching the technical aspects of the game. Robbie was always a hard trainer and willing to do whatever it took to win. Not many have a stronger passion for the Tigers than he does.

Ciraldo was asst coach of Penriths u20s for a year and then head coach for the next 2 years. They were minor premiers twice and won a comp. THEN he got the first grade asst job.

He has way more experience and success than Farah as a coach.

I guess the point I was getting at is I personally feel Robbie is made for coaching and although may not have the runs on the board coaching wise he is far superior to Ciraldo with on field experience. Knowing what it takes to succeed at an elite level for an entire career having played in and won a GF, Test series and Origin series.

Having a great playing career means little to being a coach. Pearce, Lamb, Potter abd Taylor all had great careers.

Gotta start somewhere though, Ricky Stuart definitely bucks that trend. To a degree Craig Fitzgibbon, Trent Barrett and Brad Fittler have too and that's just a few great players who've gone on with it as coaches.

Fair to say you have an argument for everything so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Can't say I really have an opinion either way, but to be fair; Fitzgibbon has not yet been an NRL Head Coach, Trent Barrett has had 1 winning season since 2017 and Fittler took the Chooks from the penthouse to the outhouse in one season.
Being a head coach in the NRL is a tough gig.

For sure it's one of the toughest gigs going. I was more referencing coaches who've made the transition from great player. Trent Barrett had success involved with Riff, Fittler has tasted it at Origin level and Fitzy been there abouts amongst Origin and Roosters teams for a while.

No one is suggesting Farah be made the head coach. Just openly discussing his value to the team and the experience and passion he could bring having played at an elite level for majority of his career. I feel he could offer more to the team than just running messages and drinks on the field.

 

[gallagher]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Made a difference already in a smaller role, briefly...

Imagine what he could do in a more hands on role.

Give him a run in reserves then.

You saying he won't have an impact on up and coming players?

Guys done it all.
Tigers man, through and through.

He'd be more impactful than snoopy and co.

He's not a coach.

Neither was Bellamy... then he was.

He'd be an assistant.

They're trying to get help for Madge. Not for Madge to mentor a would be coach.

Not the plan.

Bellamy also coached the raiders u20s before going to the broncos. You seeing a pattern?

No.
I'm seeing the value in using one of our best players to better the current bunch of players.

Guys a natural leader.
Not asking to lead the 20s or head coach us into finals but use the skills he has to empower the current playing group. Show them how to compete and win, show them what it takes to be a first grade.

Farah anyone in the current coaches box
Madge aside.

The last part is a guess.

 

[Demps]

Kimmorley
Farah
Gardiner

Farah? Yeah, I can't see a bloke that never coached before making a difference.

Made a difference already in a smaller role, briefly...

Imagine what he could do in a more hands on role.

Give him a run in reserves then.

You saying he won't have an impact on up and coming players?

Guys done it all.
Tigers man, through and through.

He'd be more impactful than snoopy and co.

He's not a coach.

Neither was Bellamy... then he was.

He'd be an assistant.

They're trying to get help for Madge. Not for Madge to mentor a would be coach.

Not the plan.

Bellamy also coached the raiders u20s before going to the broncos. You seeing a pattern?

No.
I'm seeing the value in using one of our best players to better the current bunch of players.

Guys a natural leader.
Not asking to lead the 20s or head coach us into finals but use the skills he has to empower the current playing group. Show them how to compete and win, show them what it takes to be a first grade.

Farah anyone in the current coaches box
Madge aside.

The last part is a guess.

??

 

[mike]

After seeing Robbie in the doco, his passion and commitment to the club is crucial moving forward. I don't know if he is ready to be an assistant but i would love to see his role increased.

He'd need to have certificate to a certain level? If so then great, if not, until then continue to run the water and do the on-field motivations etc.

I think I read on here somewhere that he has the certification. Could be wrong about that.