Who should Madge's assistant coaches be for 2022?

[GNR4LIFE]

I'm guessing if Shane comes ...Kyle comes ....

Doubt it. Kyle didn’t go to the Dragons.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three seasons!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

Also you said this yourself in 2020:

>Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?
>
The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Is this the winning culture you speak of?

And I stand by what I wrote. Behaviour has been altered, their Club has changed significantly, individuals have been punished and those punishments as far as I am aware have been completed.

 

[TigerWest]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

 

[TigerWest]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

 

[jadtiger]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

Its actually since we merged,so it is only 3 acceptable years out of 22.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

 

[Demps]

I'm guessing if Shane comes ...Kyle comes ....

And Xerri 🔥🔥🔥

 

[avocadoontoast]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

We were hamstrung but still able to make big offers for Latrell, TPJ, JAC, Finucane etc. They just all turned us down. This ‘no cap’ argument has been created to somehow justify us missing out on pretty much every established player we’ve gone after.

 

[tony soprano]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

We were hamstrung but still able to make big offers for Latrell, TPJ, JAC, Finucane etc. They just all turned us down. This ‘no cap’ argument has been created to somehow justify us missing out on pretty much every established player we’ve gone after.

Who wants those jerks

 

[JC99]

Wayne Collins been announced as St Mary's Ron Massey cup coach.... no disrespect to him but it seems Madge purely picked him because he knew him and knew he couldn't take his job, shouldn't have been near first grade

Was happy to give him a chance when he was first appointed because he'd worked with Madge at Souths before but ended up being a pretty poor appointment by Madge and he's become a scapegoat now.

 

[TigerWest]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

Yes, he has had only 3 years, the club obviously agree that it is not enough time to make the changes required to make us a successful team, your continual assertion of 18 & 19 YO’s are not going to help that happen any quicker.
As Madge said, we need some men as well.

 

[avocadoontoast]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

We were hamstrung but still able to make big offers for Latrell, TPJ, JAC, Finucane etc. They just all turned us down. This ‘no cap’ argument has been created to somehow justify us missing out on pretty much every established player we’ve gone after.

Who wants those jerks

We did, but they didn’t want us.

 

[jadtiger]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

We were hamstrung but still able to make big offers for Latrell, TPJ, JAC, Finucane etc. They just all turned us down. This ‘no cap’ argument has been created to somehow justify us missing out on pretty much every established player we’ve gone after.

Who wants those jerks

We did, but they didn’t want us.

Except for Mitchell who went to souffs because of the perceived culture the other 3 went to other clubs for more money(Overs).Our club has decided not to pay overs for players after paying overs for our entire existence with terrible results.At least we are trying something different

 

[TheDaBoss]

Wayne Collins been announced as St Mary's Ron Massey cup coach.... no disrespect to him but it seems Madge purely picked him because he knew him and knew he couldn't take his job, should g have been near first grade

Was happy to give him a chance when he was first appointed because he'd worked with Madge at Souths before but ended up being a pretty poor appointment by Madge and he's become a scapegoat

Correct me if im wrong but was millard our attack and collins our defence?

 

[JC99]

Wayne Collins been announced as St Mary's Ron Massey cup coach.... no disrespect to him but it seems Madge purely picked him because he knew him and knew he couldn't take his job, should g have been near first grade

Was happy to give him a chance when he was first appointed because he'd worked with Madge at Souths before but ended up being a pretty poor appointment by Madge and he's become a scapegoat

Correct me if im wrong but was millard our attack and collins our defence?

Pretty sure that's how it worked yeah

 

[avocadoontoast]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

We were hamstrung but still able to make big offers for Latrell, TPJ, JAC, Finucane etc. They just all turned us down. This ‘no cap’ argument has been created to somehow justify us missing out on pretty much every established player we’ve gone after.

Who wants those jerks

We did, but they didn’t want us.


Except for Mitchell who went to souffs because of the perceived culture the other 3 went to other clubs for more money(Overs).Our club has decided not to pay overs for players after paying overs for our entire existence with terrible results.At least we are trying something different

Where was it reported we offered less? That is a narrative that was created on here as an excuse for missing out.

 

[Telltails]

The Cronulla winning culture is also based upon a very strong junior recruitment, identification, retention and development system. The Sharks also have an excellent junior training facility at Cronulla High, relocated from the grounds upon which the Woolooware Bay development was built.

To attribute the success at the Sharks soley to the use of whatever they used is incorrect. They are still a strong club in and around the top 8.

The Sharks don't have a winning culture, I'm sorry, not any more. They had a good period under Flanagan, but it's since been shown they were not only substance abusing but they were also cheating the salary cap. That's the lengths they had to go to to achieve some sustained success.

Since the peptides were turned off and they stopped cheating the cap, they are a borderline finals side who haven't won a finals match since 2018. Their previous sustained performance was under Johnny Lang, and after he left they made the finals only 5 times in 13 attemps including one wooden spoon.

Also borderline bankrupt except for last-minute sale of their swamp land for unit development. Regular unrest at head office including several CEO sackings (at one point they had appointed 3 CEOs in 12 months); on top of when their chairman got done for possession.

In fact they are so ordinary they remain Wests Tigers' second-best head-to-head opponent, despite us winning only 3 of the last 12 against them.

I'd take their 'borderline finals' finishes all the time over where we have been for the last three season!

Before you start throwing stones at other clubs, take a look at our own club.

It’s the last 10 seasons, not 3?

But don’t let facts get in the way of your bias.

We've been appalling for the last 3 season all due to the Maguire plan.

It seems the club also has very real concerns bringing in Sheens and new assistants appointed by other than Maguire.

You conveniently forget that Madge was hamstrung by cap issues, not of his doing, except BJ (who as a collaborative effort with recruitment), who most thought was a good signing at the time?

Madge is the coach, we are yet to see what role Sheens will play in it all, he won’t be taking over the team if that’s what you think? I think Madge will have a say in his new assistants, but not the only say?

When do the excuses stop! He has only had three years. It's a great gig if you can get it!

There are those that have contributed to our failure that have been at the club longer than three years. If you applied the same principles to all the stakeholders then your argument may look more rational than the vendetta you appear to have with Maguire as being the sole reason for our failure.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

It’s not really scapegoating , more just an acknowledgment that at the very least Collins should never have been here in the first place , especially when the word out of south’s 5 YEARS AGO , that the game had passed him by.
Madge needs young guys with fresh ideas . The tried and true teams got demolished this year , and the ones with newly retired assistants , demolished teams .
The Peachey signing , IMO, is foreshadowing where I think most teams will move towards in the next few years , and as such hopefully , with a body shape and type of player change , this will lead to lower scoring games .
As another year of 50 point drubbings from the 1st team in the comp to the 5th team in the Comp, will lead me to probably becoming a casual fan unfortunately. I hate it . I hated super league when it came in , and I hate Vlandys ball .
I’m staying positive , but even before the Melbourne game , I was out on it . That Titans game where they went up by 24 and we came back , all in a half , is straight bollocks . That was considering a hurculean feat 5 years ago , now it’s round 16.
This is all to say I hope we hire young, hungry , and most importantly clever students of the game , otherwise I think we are in trouble . Vlandys ball is going to lead to the NRLs destruction if there isn’t a shift .