Winning the penalty count

[BalmainJnr]

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[Go_You_Good_Things]

I'm amazed the Cowboys are that far ahead of the bunnies.
To be fair, I'm surprised anyone is ahead of the bunnies.

 

[Goldust]

Have a mate who’s a doggies fan and he said this years ago 😂 i thought he was talking rubbish

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

How much will this change with no crowds? Great opportunity to measure how much impact crowds have on decisions.

 

[innsaneink]

Due to us consistently unable to slow down The ruck

 

[jadtiger]

How much will this change with no crowds? Great opportunity to measure how much impact crowds have on decisions.

It shouldnt change in the slightest referees go on the field with a list of things to police and what clubs/players do to get around the rules.We will still get shafted more often than not

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

How much will this change with no crowds? Great opportunity to measure how much impact crowds have on decisions.

It shouldnt change in the slightest referees go on the field with a list of things to police and what clubs/players do to get around the rules.We will still get shafted more often than not

You know what they do however we are all human and the behavior of others influences us. The background noise plays on your mind a little during 50/50 calls.

 

[Geo]

Lucky we are playing at Leichhardt this week the Crowd is worth 4 penalties a game..

 

[Tbone]

Would be good to see how often the same teams win an away penalty count. If there's a divergence between those two figures, that might cast some doubt.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Lucky we are playing at Leichhardt this week the Crowd is worth 4 penalties a game..

Looking forward to an even playing field at Bankwest in Round 5 vs Eels. I'm installing extra speakers so I can hear the Sound of Moses' ribs being smashed.

 

[happy_tiger]

Lucky we are playing at Leichhardt this week the Crowd is worth 4 penalties a game..

The 8th wonder of the modern world's ranking will slip without any atmosphere

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Surprised the Broncos are that far down the list.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

Lucky we are playing at Leichhardt this week the Crowd is worth 4 penalties a game..

. . to the opposition.

 

[Russell]

Lucky we are playing at Leichhardt this week the Crowd is worth 4 penalties a game..

Of late, usually against us.

 

[LARDS]

Refs come to Leichardt with a preconceived notion that the crowd will affect them and over compensate for it.
Therefore having no crowd might help us.

 

[jirskyr]

Refs come to Leichardt with a preconceived notion that the crowd will affect them and over compensate for it.
Therefore having no crowd might help us.

What nonsense, I hope you are joking. You mean to argue that at Leichhardt, but not Dairy Farmers, not Suncorp, not AAMI, not McDonald Jones, not Mt Smart, not Jubilee, not Bruce Stadium do the refs have pre-conceived ideas of crowd influence and inversely compensate. Leichhardt is the only one (or perhaps Brookie as well, from that table) the only iconic ground that influences the refs to consciously change behaviour?

This statistic is interesting by itself but it is also very much 1 side of a bigger picture. For consistency we also need a list of "how often Team X wins the penalty count" and "how often the away teams win the penalty count". It may simply be that the teams losing their home penalty count are also very ill-disciplined teams.

For example, Tigers apparently win the home penalty count 43% of the time. It may be that Tigers only win the penalty count 45% of the time anyway, so whether or not we are home or away doesn't matter because we are an ill-disciplined team. You could even potentially argue that Tigers have less "home ground" advantage because we have grounds we share with other clubs, but this isn't borne out in the stats either - Rabbits also share their home and they are 3rd, and the opposite is true of Manly, who also have an iconic home ground, and they are last.

 

[LARDS]

Refs come to Leichardt with a preconceived notion that the crowd will affect them and over compensate for it.
Therefore having no crowd might help us.

What nonsense, I hope you are joking. You mean to argue that at Leichhardt, but not Dairy Farmers, not Suncorp, not AAMI, not McDonald Jones, not Mt Smart, not Jubilee, not Bruce Stadium do the refs have pre-conceived ideas of crowd influence and inversely compensate. Leichhardt is the only one (or perhaps Brookie as well, from that table) the only iconic ground that influences the refs to consciously change behaviour?

This statistic is interesting by itself but it is also very much 1 side of a bigger picture. For consistency we also need a list of "how often Team X wins the penalty count" and "how often the away teams win the penalty count". It may simply be that the teams losing their home penalty count are also very ill-disciplined teams.

For example, Tigers apparently win the home penalty count 43% of the time. It may be that Tigers only win the penalty count 45% of the time anyway, so whether or not we are home or away doesn't matter because we are an ill-disciplined team. You could even potentially argue that Tigers have less "home ground" advantage because we have grounds we share with other clubs, but this isn't borne out in the stats either - Rabbits also share their home and they are 3rd, and the opposite is true of Manly, who also have an iconic home ground, and they are last.

Not joking
Just my impression. How else can you explain some of the shockers that have gone against us there.
Like Nofo being penalised for not playing the ball against cronulla last year.
Last time that was penalised for was in 1923.(joking)

 

[jirskyr]

How else can you explain some of the shockers that have gone against us there.

I explain it by selection bias - you remember the "shockers" and don't remember the ones that went in our favour. You aren't comparing "shockers" at LO vs shockers at CSS or shockers at ANZ.

In other words, your source data is very selective and unreliable.