trentrunciman
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i'm looking forward to 2021 to be honest. Don't have very high expectations this year
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@ElleryHanley said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100754) said:Brad Abbey is not in the top 30...let's say we actually do fill our 30, and then he does very well in state cup, he won't be eligible to play anyway?
@2005magic said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100780) said:I do think the hooker situation for this season is not good and I just don't know the answer. Surely we can't go at least half season with make do's? I had hope when there was th e rumour Maguire had recruited Parnell from ESL.
@2005magic said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100773) said:All I can say if it's as bad as some make out, are they saying we should fold up and close the doors? I don't think so, but there seems to be a few thinking we are terminal.
Yes we need to improve things and I think we are.
1/ not just Maguire is in control of recruitment we have Hartigan and McDonnell in identifying potential.
2/ our terrible player training and rehab facilities are finally being replaced.
3/ our coaching, support and rehab staff have had the broom put through them.
4/ we do have a good story to tell potential recruits who are able to see effort equals reward as against the want it now players.
5/ our back room is in order and working well to a plan.
However, we still have issues such as the multiple playing fields, an ability to steer wrong with bad board room actions e.g. knifing Go and appointing O'Farrell, perception amongst other clubs and player managers i.e. being sh#t upon.
But, we are getting there. I don't want us to fold nor relocate to Perth.
@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
@Cultured_Bogan said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101585) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
If Souths can't get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don't believe their backs will shine as well as they could.
@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101587) said:@Cultured_Bogan said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101585) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
If Souths can't get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don't believe their backs will shine as well as they could.
Same here
Murray is a gun.other than that pretty shallow pack.
@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101587) said:@Cultured_Bogan said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101585) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
If Souths can't get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don't believe their backs will shine as well as they could.
Same here
Murray is a gun.other than that pretty shallow pack.
@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101590) said:@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101587) said:@Cultured_Bogan said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101585) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
If Souths can't get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don't believe their backs will shine as well as they could.
Same here
Murray is a gun.other than that pretty shallow pack.
Brooks & Benji will have more time and space.
I’m getting excited ?
@Nelson said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101591) said:@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101587) said:@Cultured_Bogan said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101585) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
If Souths can't get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don't believe their backs will shine as well as they could.
Same here
Murray is a gun.other than that pretty shallow pack.
L Knight
D Cook
T Burgess
E Lowe
J Su’A
C Murray
J Tatola
T Amone
It’s not terrible if there are no injuries, but it is lacking in size and impact.
@ElleryHanley said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100345) said:@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100208) said:I’d love to see him get whacked ,but who in our team is capable of that?lol
Maybe Josh Aloiai
Aloai goes to church with Matterson....he aint belting him.
We do not have an enforcer at all.
I was hoping Packer would be when we got him....did not happen.
@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101593) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101590) said:@Sausagesorcerer said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101587) said:@Cultured_Bogan said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101585) said:@twentyforty said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101568) said:@gallagher said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101364) said:@Glenn5150 said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1101359) said:@balmain-boy said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100763) said:@bigsiro said in [WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020](/post/1100669) said:I don't think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn't try their hardest.
Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I've seen in 40 years I've followed Wests/Balmain.
If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let's not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool's paradise.
I'd almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.
1. It's no worse than last year.
2. Recruitment hasn't finished yet.
Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.
The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.
I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.
If Souths can't get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don't believe their backs will shine as well as they could.
Same here
Murray is a gun.other than that pretty shallow pack.
Brooks & Benji will have more time and space.
I’m getting excited ?
Same 🙂
Especially if they get good ball from dummy