Zane Musgrove

[Donald_Trump]

One has to wonder about Maguires morals following his signing.

I’m tired of League saying it’s a game of redemption.

If you want to attract fans and sponsors, you have to cut these grubs out.

Musgrove and Walker should be banned for life. As should Packer, Tetevano from the Roosters and all the others who have done really terrible stuff.

 

[Telltails]

You really have to question the inflated egos of some of these NRL players when they are out. Its like they have notion of being superior to the norm and when alcohol is involved - which many cant handle - the moron in them emerges and liberties taken that they are not entitled to.
The NRL needs to have zero tolerance for mistreatment of women- if proven guilty -its that simple. Regardless of ability, or the rot will continue. Some of them have got their heads stuck so far up their you know whats they need a real dose of reality. No second chances.

 

[Guest]

Let's keep Musgrove, to be fair I couldn't care a less about his acts off the field as long as he performs on the field. One more strike and he's out.

A childish comment coming from a child. Who would have thought…

 

[magpiecol]

I always thought that a person was innocent until proven guilty.

I guess a lot of people on this forum have never heard of this concept.

He handed himself in yesterday.
Funny thing to do if your innocent.

Nobody knows what happened. Let's leave it to the experts.

What I am struggling with is your idea that because he went to the police voluntarily he must be guilty.

Please explain.

:question: :question:

 

[Harvey]

I always thought that a person was innocent until proven guilty.

I guess a lot of people on this forum have never heard of this concept.

He handed himself in yesterday.
Funny thing to do if your innocent.

Nobody knows what happened. Let's leave it to the experts.

What I am struggling with is your idea that because he went to the police voluntarily he must be guilty.

Please explain.

:question: :question:

Haven't you seen the fugitive? He should have gone on the run while proving his innocence

 

[diedpretty]

I read in the fox sports article that his contract is yet to be registered by the NRL, so we may be able to terminate him on those grounds.

Foxsports.com.au contacted the NRL who are aware of the incident, but since Musgrove’s Tigers contract is not yet registered, it’s currently not a matter for the governing body to investigate.
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An spokesman said the NRL will wait and see what happens with the court proceedings which will take place on January 23.

If that Foxsports report is true i would assume the Tigers don't have to do anything at this stage. They can't sack him because he is not under contract. Although I would hope they would stand him down from pre season pending the court case. If found guilty the NRL won't register his contract and he will be off the books.

 

[The_Patriot]

Something about the clubs statement gives me a little hope that it might not be as bad as reported. Not many details at this stage. Club once again acted quickly and decisively which is good to see. However i read it as someone (the victims side) contacted the club, the club called in the integrity unit and then instructed the player to hand himself in.

Just my opinion on the wording of that statement. The statment does include the old 'the club doesnt tolerate violence agaisnt women etc etc' just a "we take our position in the community very seriously".

He may be guilty as hell but ill wait for all facts before hanging this player.
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"Wests Tigers have been made aware of an alleged incident involving player Zane Musgrove.

The club has alerted the NRL Integrity Unit of the matter.

Wests Tigers takes its position in the community very seriously and will work with the NRL Integrity Unit and NSW Police on the allegations.

The club will make no further comment on the matter until the investigation is complete.
"

 

[Geo]

I wonder how many here have been excused from jury duty..

 

[Gazman]

Timing for the club was unfortunate he agrees to joining us officially on 22/11 and gets busted on 24/11 me thinks the short time frame supports the story that NRL yet to register the contract as Club perhaps were informed soon after. For the time being though we should allow natural process of justice and follow the Clubs position on matter

 

[kiwitiger]

Bog average player anyway, if he needs to be punted for his indiscretions then no real loss.

This!
**He's not that good to worry about**. Booting him won't make other teams any stronger.
No brainer for the club. Be the good guy's here.

It’s pretty dumb reasoning to bring his ability into it. Are you saying if he was a key player it would be okay to give him another chance?

I feel it naive to think ability does not come into it. A key player will always get away with more may be stood down for 12 weeks or something but run of the mill players will be sacked. Not saying it is right just saying I'd be shocked if it's not a factor.

 

[innsaneink]

I always thought that a person was innocent until proven guilty.

I guess a lot of people on this forum have never heard of this concept.

He handed himself in yesterday.
Funny thing to do if your innocent.

Without knowing everything you've found him guilty… Obviously he's been advised by someone the cops wanna talk to him... Doesn't = guilt just yet

 

[cqtiger]

Apparently Lliam Coleman is the other person involved in this case. Son of Craig Coleman and plays for Penrith.

 

[earl]

I wonder how many here have been excused from jury duty..

My guess is that a lot have been.

 

[Masterton]

I wonder how many here have been excused from jury duty..

My guess is that a lot have been.

"I know there's footage of him shooting those people….. but we need an aggressive forward."

 

[innsaneink]

Apparently Lliam Coleman is the other person involved in this case. Son of Craig Coleman and plays for Penrith.

Geez… My son played against him as kids.
Sort of hits home when you know these guys were kids like yours and mine not too long ago.

 

[innsaneink]

Apparently Lliam Coleman is the other person involved in this case. Son of Craig Coleman and plays for Penrith.

Geez… My son played against him as kids.
Sort of hits home when you know these guys were kids like yours and mine not too long ago.

 

[Balmainian]

I always thought that a person was innocent until proven guilty.

I guess a lot of people on this forum have never heard of this concept.

He handed himself in yesterday.
Funny thing to do if your innocent.

Without knowing everything you've found him guilty… Obviously he's been advised by someone the cops wanna talk to him... Doesn't = guilt just yet

You’re right fellas he hasn’t been found guilty yet.
I’ll bite my tongue and speak of him in a good light until then.

 

[Balmainian]

I always thought that a person was innocent until proven guilty.

I guess a lot of people on this forum have never heard of this concept.

He handed himself in yesterday.
Funny thing to do if your innocent.

Without knowing everything you've found him guilty… Obviously he's been advised by someone the cops wanna talk to him... Doesn't = guilt just yet

Sorry Ink he handed himself in and has been charged, also had a prior infringement early in the year.
But your right I do have an opinion without knowing everything, maybe I should wait and see what the Chanel 7 news tells me, those guys are facts driven.
You can choose to believe what you want until someone has to tell you in black and white what happened.
I’ll choose to believe my intuition.

 

[Tim Sheens]

He is guilty of at least one thing, exhibiting a pattern of behavior and a very poor pattern at that. I am all for giving people a chance, but you only get one.

Similar to that I wrote in the Walker thread, Leopards don't change their spots, with sexual and physical assault often becomes the norm for those that are unfortunate to meet, or worse, form a relationship with them.

Unsure on the NRL registration bit, but pretty sure that as he was already contracted to another club, the normal cooling off period does not apply when transferring.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Education is key here. What has happened is very wrong and will continue to happen unless Greenburg addresses the issue instead of worrying about stadiums.

The NRL really needs to accept it has a huge issue on its hands. Put in place mandatory programmes for players.

I did read a comment from GNR disparaging education. Well guess what, some of the players concerned wouldn't tie their bootlaces unless it was on a training video.

Many of these players were recruited as teenagers and move away from the father figure in their lives who can demonstrate how to behave around or treat women. Others come from one parent families where the father figure is missing or come from households that experience domestic violence. League is built upon young players from dysfunctional households.