tony soprano
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Has ciraldo re-signed yet?
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He's coaching the Reds but has let it be known that he wants to take over Dave Rennie spot coaching the Wallabies.I thought he was already coaching the reds or something?
There was plenty to suggest Sheens/ Humphries did not have the support of the board. There was a faction that did not want to extend Sheens and Humphries vetoed it. Sheens said he would walk if they didn't make the finals in 2012 after going all out for Adam Blair they didn't. He got axed by the board and Humphries followed. "Players sack coaches" was a butt hurt response.The same assassins that stabbed him in the back a decade ago. It’s like a wrestling angle. They turned heel on him and betrayed him, then a couple years later they are all best buds like nothing happened.
There was plenty to suggest Sheens/ Humphries did not have the support of the board. There was a faction that did not want to extend Sheens and Humphries vetoed it. Sheens said he would walk if they didn't make the finals in 2012 after going all out for Adam Blair they didn't. He got axed by the board and Humphries followed. "Players sack coaches" was a butt hurt response.
School holidaysHas ciraldo re-signed yet?
Then he looked at his last pay slip and felt a lot better about it all . 🫂The worst part about it all is that both Clearys have been vindicated. Ivan can obviously coach, but also obviously he needs the cattle and the recruitment/development legwork done by others.
Ivan was only modestly successful at Penrith the first time, also not particularly successful at Warriors or Tigers. Pretty ballsy move to go back to the club that already sacked you once before... and I struggle to think of many instances where a sacked coach is re-hired by that club (Tigers staring down the barrel of doing the same thing).
I also was hopeful Nathan Cleary might sign with Tigers, and at that point he was a mostly unproven junior halfback. It's ballsy of Penrith also to bet the house on the player, to placate their junior halfback and add stability to the roster, by headhunting a coach you previously decided could not do the job.
So it's particularly annoying that it all worked out for Penrith so rosily and that they are vindicated in their risk-taking. Similarly galling that Roosters manoeuvred to sign both Tedesco and Cronk and win consecutive premierships, when Cronk could have lent his support to a struggling club rather than an already-established heavyweight.
First time I met Pascoe in 2020 I asked him about that, about how it must irritate him how well Cleary was doing with Penrith (after the first-year stumble in 2019). He said something like "mate you have no idea".
Im still having a hard time believing it.
Try Pascoe.He has that now - taking on the coaching job will mean we'll need someone else to take on the Football Manager role.
360 would go into meltdown... Classic Sheen's moveImagine if we still signed ciraldo the club just wanted to do it behind closed doors
There was plenty to suggest Sheens/ Humphries did not have the support of the board. There was a faction that did not want to extend Sheens and Humphries vetoed it. Sheens said he would walk if they didn't make the finals in 2012 after going all out for Adam Blair they didn't. He got axed by the board and Humphries followed. "Players sack coaches" was a butt hurt response.
And risk not getting paid no way.he didn't walk though - Did he?
Imagine if we still signed ciraldo the club just wanted to do it behind closed doors
No and I for one was quite annoyed, actually worse than annoyed, I thought he was good for his word. I don't want him as coach again, talk about keep doing the same things over and over hoping for a different result, we have stop that cycle nowhe didn't walk though - Did he?
I swear he was quoted in an artical yesturday saying it’s not particularly a path he wants to go downRiccio saying very confident sheens would take the head coaching role if asked.
Your summarisation is right. I posted on here a while back when Madge got sacked that Sheens was bought in to do the dirty work that no one else had the balls to do,and that was firstly sack Madge and then clean up the ugly mess afterwards, because with tigers repetitive coach sacking history, who in their right mind would come here unless they are extremely desperate.WT have only ever given two coaches contract extensions and sacked both early during that extension period.
I doubt that Sheens has the level of influence in the club’s decisions that many assume he has.
The board turned on Maguire well before Sheens was hired. I recall Pascoe’s announcement of Sheens appointment as uncomplimentary to Maguire, so by that time they had obviously had enough of him.
Why was Maguire sacked?
Why was Maguire sacked halfway through the 22 season?
I know what spokesmen from the club have said, but it seems the leakers can keep quiet about some things?
I swear he was quoted in an artical yesturday saying it’s not particularly a path he wants to go down