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We have to stop blaming coach's - all of them for the inadequacies of the playing group. Its the sort of thinking that gets us no where. We should asking why we have so much trouble attracting players no matter who the coach is and then maybe we can't start addressing the real problem.
 

We were gone anyway. I agree with what you are stating but we weren't performing well enough under Madge either.

Personally I don't think it was pre-season training or the approach Madge took. I think we didn't have the cattle to execute a Melbourne type game plan.
 
Telltails said:
We have to stop blaming coach's - all of them for the inadequacies of the playing group. Its the sort of thinking that gets us no where. We should asking why we have so much trouble attracting players no matter who the coach is and then maybe we can't start addressing the real problem.
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I basically agree but attracting players is simple. Pay them more and win more. We can't pay more unlike the Rorters because they pay under the table. That would be my first suggestion. Start cheating.

Winning will come but even when we were competitive we struggled attracting players probably because players change clubs mostly for money.
 
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Earl said:
I basically agree but attracting players is simple. Pay them more and win more. We can't pay more unlike the Rorters because they pay under the table. That would be my first suggestion. Start cheating.

Winning will come but even when we were competitive we struggled attracting players probably because players change clubs mostly for money.
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Winning is definitely the key If we could just assemble a squad capable - which is hard to envision in the near future when you look at the quality of the teams that have made finals. Massive job for Sheens and co.
 
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Key to this signing along with Api and Papalli is we need to keep our better players. Last few years we added a few but lost Aloai, Matterson, Momirovski. We ended up going backwards.
 
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Earl said:
I basically agree but attracting players is simple. Pay them more and win more. We can't pay more unlike the Rorters because they pay under the table. That would be my first suggestion. Start cheating.

Winning will come but even when we were competitive we struggled attracting players probably because players change clubs mostly for money.
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Not a bad idea. We’re last and likely last next year. If we cheat and get caught we finish last. Nothing to lose 😂
 
TYGA said:
Key to this signing along with Api and Papalli is we need to keep our better players. Last few years we added a few but lost Aloai, Matterson, Momirovski. We ended up going backwards.
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Retention is really important but the players you mention are tough ones.

Momirovski is a borderline first grader. Aloiai and Matterson are both good players but they played games to get out of here solely to get more money.
 
I reckon Momirovski has been going pretty well over at the Roosters. He's been right into the thick of things ie making try saving tackles, the occasional bust, taking a few high balls etc. I though he also played reasonably when with Penrith & the Storm. I doubt that he would have had the opportunity to play as well in our excuse for a team.
 
Peter_B said:
I reckon Momirovski has been going pretty well over at the Roosters. He's been right into the thick of things ie making try saving tackles, the occasional bust, taking a few high balls etc. I though he also played reasonably when with Penrith & the Storm. I doubt that he would have had the opportunity to play as well in our excuse for a team.
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Momers has played 56 NRL games for 26 tries and 24 goals.

One Premiership ring with the Panthers in 2021 and unlucky to be injured when playing for the Storm as he might have a second Premiership ring for 2020.

In a good side he is a very good player. Does any one in the current WT side have a premiership ring?
 
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Earl said:
Retention is really important but the players you mention are tough ones.

Momirovski is a borderline first grader. Aloiai and Matterson are both good players but they played games to get out of here solely to get more money.
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Really can't understand the constant dislike for Momirovski.

Good enough to have played plenty of regular 1st grade for the likes of the Storm, the 'Riff and the Roorters.

He's a player that would be our best centre by the length of the Bathurst straight and has more footy smarts than our entire back line put together.

Yeah, he's a borderline 1st grader which says a lot about the caliber of our highly regarded 1st grade team that just won the spoon, which I thought I might mention just in case anyone had forgotten.
 
hank37w said:
Really can't understand the constant dislike for Momirovski.
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The issue isn't a dislike for him. The issue is that he isn't very good and gets talked up on here in an attempt to criticize the club for letting him go.

In the initial post I responded to he was grouped together with Aloiai and Matterson. Aloiai and Matterson walk into basically every first grade team in the comp. Aloiai tears teams apart. Matterson is a fringe origin player.
 
tiger_scott said:
Aloiai was part of the Manly 7, wasn't he? We should bring him back, subsidised by Manly, would be even sweeter.
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He was the ring leader....

Worst thing was, They didn't play - Then he was out the next week Injured.
If he was Injured the week after - He was certainly Injured the week of the Pride jersey....
Why stir up a shit storm when you're not playing anyway?

Then he's backing the young bloke that stabbed a Church Leader....
For a bloke that preaches the mis-treatment of a religious leader from 2000 years ago,
You think he might take exception to the Fainu case...

He's no good.
 
batboy said:
He was the ring leader....

Worst thing was, They didn't play - Then he was out the next week Injured.
If he was Injured the week after - He was certainly Injured the week of the Pride jersey....
Why stir up a shit storm when you're not playing anyway?

Then he's backing the young bloke that stabbed a Church Leader....
For a bloke that preaches the mis-treatment of a religious leader from 2000 years ago,
You think he might take exception to the Fainu case...

He's no good.
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Self righteous
 
Earl said:
Exactly. He simply isn't very good.
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Same As O Giddard ... Comments how good the Roosters organisation is and kind of bags us yet in reserves or at best on bench over there.. Of course they are good when you don't have a salary cap and 15 rep players in your squad..
 
Earl said:
The issue isn't a dislike for him. The issue is that he isn't very good and gets talked up on here in an attempt to criticize the club for letting him go.

In the initial post I responded to he was grouped together with Aloiai and Matterson. Aloiai and Matterson walk into basically every first grade team in the comp. Aloiai tears teams apart. Matterson is a fringe origin player.
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For a player that isn't very good he seems to have featured fairly prominently in 3 of the highest performing teams of recent years.

Still would be our best centre by a considerable margin and with football smarts exceeding anyone in our current team apart from maybe Jacko.

He has one other thing going for him and that is that he is not a scum bag like the other two that you have mentioned.

Not being critical of you because you are entitled to your opinion but unfortunately in this particular case you are wrong.🤣
 
hank37w said:
Still would be our best centre by a considerable margin and with football smarts exceeding anyone in our current team apart from maybe Jacko.
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I don't think he has the athletic ability to be the best centre at our club. I think basically all our centre options are better than him or at worst have more potential.

He does have though footy smarts much higher than all our current centres.

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He has one other thing going for him and that is that he is not a scum bag like the other two that you have mentioned.
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Totally agree.

He is a reliable plodder who in a good team can do his job. I don't dislike him.
 
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