Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Needaname said:
Cowboys? Sharks? Bunnies? The only club that isn’t over doing it is Parramatta.
They basically went out and bought their best 5 players in their side and brought the rest through on shrewd deals and some rookie promotion

i would say the sharks and the cowboys have been following the Penrith path for the previous season or two wouldn’t you. Raiders will be next to hit top 4 based on their senior roster and junior talent coming through.
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Really.... Cmon man - Seriously, Be better....
From their last game....
Ramien
Miller
Moylan
Hynes
Rudolph
Uele
Graham
Finucane
Tolman
Fifita
McInness
That's 11/17 (Not including Imports like Nikora and Mulitalo)
And their coach

All came through at other clubs.
 
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Needaname said:
How did that deal even come about? I mean who was looking at, talking to, considering Reilly when we decided to offer him a first grade contract without even trialing him first?
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It's a bit baffling, and symbolic of the chaotic recruitment of recent years. He's the sort of player that other clubs would sign halfway through a season for 6 months to see if it works out, or on a train and trial contract. Somehow we got hoodwinked into thinking he was a young superstar and offered him an nrl contract, and somehow for 2.5 years.

Sure maybe he was coming back from injury, match fitness etc. But if he was then why offer such a long deal to an unproven player?? If he sucks hopefully it wouldn't be too hard for him to get a gig playing rugby in japan or europe.
 
balmain boy said:
It's a bit baffling, and symbolic of the chaotic recruitment of recent years. He's the sort of player that other clubs would sign halfway through a season for 6 months to see if it works out, or on a train and trial contract. Somehow we got hoodwinked into thinking he was a young superstar and offered him an nrl contract, and somehow for 2.5 years.

Sure maybe he was coming back from injury, match fitness etc. But if he was then why offer such a long deal to an unproven player?? If he sucks hopefully it wouldn't be too hard for him to get a gig playing rugby in japan or europe.
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Meanwhile the likes of Dykes, Sloan etc. are mostly playing in Ressies....
Even Lachie Miller is more worthy of taking a punt on.

Sheens signed him, So there must be something....
Seriously, Kiah Cooper is a better player.
 
batboy said:
Really.... Cmon man - Seriously, Be better....
From their last game....
Ramien
Miller
Moylan
Hynes
Rudolph
Uele
Graham
Finucane
Tolman
Fifita
McInness
That's 11/17 (Not including Imports like Nikora and Mulitalo)
And their coach

All came through at other clubs.
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Ok you’ve got me. But of that list only Moylan, Finucane, Hynes, McInnes were plucked as developed players.

I’ve really lost the point of this discussion.

Teams use their juniors to build a base. And supplement what is lacking by buying key position players in their prime.
Even the mighty Panthers did it for their recent premiership.

But you can’t fill a top 30 roster with a squad full of experienced players.
Refer back to 2018 we had Tyson Gamble as the only player yet to play first grade.
When we had injures we had cover sure, but we effectively replaced a mid range 1st choice player with a mid range back up player. Besides an aging Marshall and later Farah we didn’t have one player of superstar quality in that side.
 
Needaname said:
Ok you’ve got me. But of that list only Moylan, Finucane, Hynes, McInnes were plucked as developed players.

I’ve really lost the point of this discussion.

Teams use their juniors to build a base. And supplement what is lacking by buying key position players in their prime.
Even the mighty Panthers did it for their recent premiership.

But you can’t fill a top 30 roster with a squad full of experienced players.
Refer back to 2018 we had Tyson Gamble as the only player yet to play first grade.
When we had injures we had cover sure, but we effectively replaced a mid range 1st choice player with a mid range back up player. Besides an aging Marshall and later Farah we didn’t have one player of superstar quality in that side.
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Tolman, Fifita?

And Garner playe 2018....
Odd you mention 2018 - Probably our best year gone and best in the few before.
I agree, You're not going to buy 30 - 700k players.

Not sure what your point is,
But mine is - We're far too lop sided with Kids...
Everyone here is standing in applause while we fill our squad with more.

I don't care how talented they are, They're not going to lead themselves or teach themselves to be NRL Players, And they're not going to ever be consistent.

We continually overspend on kids, to the point where we can't afford to put any leaders or game breakers in there to hold them accountable - Or get the best of them.

Not only is it not going to work - It's dumb!!
But still - Why MUST keep them all....
And we can't bide the time with them, They've all gotta be in 1sts by 20..
Rinse and Repeat
I'm over it.
 
batboy said:
Meanwhile the likes of Dykes, Sloan etc. are mostly playing in Ressies....
Even Lachie Miller is more worthy of taking a punt on.

Sheens signed him, So there must be something....
Seriously, Kiah Cooper is a better player.
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I dunno if it was a reflection of our squad at the time, but I thought Kiah went pretty well.

Surprised he wasn't offered anything, but I guess he hasn't really kicked on now.
 
I'm always a little amused by the majority of this forum complaining about the leaks to the media about potential signings and internal matters at this club then coming on this thread and asking all and sundry for insights and rumours about signings!! Not having ago at anyone, just makes me laugh.
Also, it's a no from me for Moses!
 
patwalker said:
I'm always a little amused by the majority of this forum complaining about the leaks to the media about potential signings and internal matters at this club then coming on this thread and asking all and sundry for insights and rumours about signings!! Not having ago at anyone, just makes me laugh.
Also, it's a no from me for Moses!
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Just desperate/hopeful for some good news!! We are all hurting, can’t wait to be at our first final after how many years..
 
patwalker said:
I'm always a little amused by the majority of this forum complaining about the leaks to the media about potential signings and internal matters at this club then coming on this thread and asking all and sundry for insights and rumours about signings!! Not having ago at anyone, just makes me laugh.
Also, it's a no from me for Moses!
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This is a rumours thread after all, members need to come here and get their daily feed to keep them going. A bit of fun. No real substantiated news is probably good news in the end 🤞
 
dazza65 said:
Leaving aside the emotional hate for sooky boy Moses, the problem is that as a gold medal winning downhill skier, he is only as good as the pack in front of him and even with Pap and Api we are still massively down in that area IMHO so he won't be as effective..... but you can say that about any 1/2 so it really becomes about $$$$ and value for money.....
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Haha love that term…I think I’ve seen him play 1 game where he dragged his team from behind to win.
 
batboy said:
Tolman, Fifita?

And Garner playe 2018....
Odd you mention 2018 - Probably our best year gone and best in the few before.
I agree, You're not going to buy 30 - 700k players.

Not sure what your point is,
But mine is - We're far too lop sided with Kids...
Everyone here is standing in applause while we fill our squad with more.

I don't care how talented they are, They're not going to lead themselves or teach themselves to be NRL Players, And they're not going to ever be consistent.

We continually overspend on kids, to the point where we can't afford to put any leaders or game breakers in there to hold them accountable - Or get the best of them.

Not only is it not going to work - It's dumb!!
But still - Why MUST keep them all....
And we can't bide the time with them, They've all gotta be in 1sts by 20..
Rinse and Repeat
I'm over it.
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Your right, and to make things worse, when we develop and unearth a gem they leave us. Hopefully things will turn around. I hope the COE, a new direction in coaching and an emphasis on pathways will work.
We don't really have much else to hang our hats on so like blind mice we will follow the scent.
Please ....give us humble mortals a break and let us succeed.
 
balmain boy said:
It's a bit baffling, and symbolic of the chaotic recruitment of recent years. He's the sort of player that other clubs would sign halfway through a season for 6 months to see if it works out, or on a train and trial contract. Somehow we got hoodwinked into thinking he was a young superstar and offered him an nrl contract, and somehow for 2.5 years.

Sure maybe he was coming back from injury, match fitness etc. But if he was then why offer such a long deal to an unproven player?? If he sucks hopefully it wouldn't be too hard for him to get a gig playing rugby in japan or europe.
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I actually thought it was a train and trial deal of sorts for the rest of this season and then would carry over if we wanted him. If that's wrong it really shows how bad a state we are in atm.
 
batboy said:
All Fairness taken into account.... Already.
They're not going to teach themselves to play Footy!!
Surrounding them with 'Real Nice" older fellas won't help either...
If you don't want to listen to me, I point you to the Wests Tigers Results from Seasons 2012-2015

The best juniors going - some generational players even...
Simona, Sironen, Tedesco, Woods, Brooks, Moses... A heap of U20's best team.

Summary = Surround the best kids you can find with nothing and no-ones all you like
but that's exactly what we'll all end up with.
None of the other successful teams are doing it this way - Bar Penrith (Arguably)
Outside that, how has it ever worked?
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Jason Taylor was the problem there. That pr#ck cost us a decade of good results.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
I think the aim will be a progressive rise up the ladder (with top 8 still a target next season).

A new game style, a new attitude, the return to full fitness for Maumalo, Utoikomanu, Twal, Hastings, Brooks & Blore; a progressive year for Pole, Talau, Tupou; the incoming Api & Papaali & whoever else (Staines, another good backrower, prop), the return of Noffa, more experience into Kepaoa & T'oa; with Offa, Doeuhi & Laurie having career seasons.
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