Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Halbrowne61 said:
But aren’t the forwards more a means to an end, rather than an end in themselves.
They can do lots of good work but not having finishers means it’s a waste of time and energy
Eventually this reduces the forwards performance coz having no finishers means their toil is wasted.
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What if - the forwards dont create for the finishers? What if they do - just there are no finishers? And there are no finishers cause no one is steering the ship?
 
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jrtiger said:
we need an organising 7: Sezer

why do we need Fainu and Sullivan on $500k each: Fainu is on about half that next year, and the Dragons will come to the table and chip in if they truly want Sullivan gone.

cousin is a Dragons sponsor: good on him, Hook is just about the worst coach when it comes to managing young talent and the entire Dragons preseason was spent doing road runs. no wonder Sullivan's hammys are shot to pieces. give him a preseason with Moussa where he sheds the kegs and his loads are managed and then we'll see what happens.

we are on a hiding to nothing, TM. Sullivan is a good get who at worst is decent depth for our starting halves and can play hooker at a pinch. best case scenario we've got our long term 7 at a bargain bin rate. he's a risk worth taking. the kid can play.
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Agree with this. I think we all accept there is risk with the Sullivan signing. But the upside is there and worth the risk. Hopefully he matures as he gets a bit older and puts in and succeeds.
 
Wiz said:
Agree with this. I think we all accept there is risk with the Sullivan signing. But the upside is there and worth the risk. Hopefully he matures as he gets a bit older and puts in and succeeds.
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Please speak for yourself. You accept. I expect. Like our women's team. Their mindset. Grammar. I failed many times. No Wiz here.
 
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Odessa said:
Wow amazing in your opinion who are the best 3 players in super league and could the Tiger's sign any ?
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I'll just go 1 back that never gets mentioned.
Jai Field . The kid's electric, but we've signed five eighth in Sullivan already and Bula's our 1.
The only other outside back I'd go for is Bevan French. Him and Field are the 2 best backs in the comp. and I'm including the St Helens boys .
 
Todd Packer said:
I'll just go 1 back that never gets mentioned.
Jai Field . The kid's electric, but we've signed five eighth in Sullivan already and Bula's our 1.
The only other outside back I'd go for is Bevan French. Him and Field are the 2 best backs in the comp. and I'm including the St Helens boys .
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Never mentioned for a reason. And you are confirming that Sullivan has signed?
 
Halbrowne61 said:
But aren’t the forwards more a means to an end, rather than an end in themselves.
They can do lots of good work but not having finishers means it’s a waste of time and energy
Eventually this reduces the forwards performance coz having no finishers means their toil is wasted.
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That’s valid.
A good stat to see if that as a reflection of our season is the total tackles for Tigers compared to other teams. There probably is something that can tell us if the forwards are working harder than they need to.
I’m also curious as we are actually the best in the league for ineffective tackles and missed tackles; when we concede our tackles. You would think that if the forwards are over worked due to lack of execution and finishing in the early parts of the contest that the second half of the game would be our sloppiest and where we make the most errors / missed tackles.
The Souths game probably demonstrated that but I haven’t gone back and looked at the stats.
 
Needaname said:
That’s valid.
A good stat to see if that as a reflection of our season is the total tackles for Tigers compared to other teams. There probably is something that can tell us if the forwards are working harder than they need to.
I’m also curious as we are actually the best in the league for ineffective tackles and missed tackles; when we concede our tackles. You would think that if the forwards are over worked due to lack of execution and finishing in the early parts of the contest that the second half of the game would be our sloppiest and where we make the most errors / missed tackles.
The Souths game probably demonstrated that but I haven’t gone back and looked at the stats.
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Stats dont add up to heart and will to win. They need a new name.
 
batboy said:
Anyone watch 360 tonight?

Anasta sounded like a bloke that was trying to sell a "Game Managing" 7 to me....
Also seemed concerned with the length of the contracts we're giving young halves...
Why'd that be you think?
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He has one on his books currently at the club in Conti though I do wonder if all is not as it seems with Souths and Illias..
 
batboy said:
Anyone watch 360 tonight?

Anasta sounded like a bloke that was trying to sell a "Game Managing" 7 to me....
Also seemed concerned with the length of the contracts we're giving young halves...
Why'd that be you think?
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Needaname said:
He has one on his books currently at the club in Conti though I do wonder if all is not as it seems with Souths and Illias..
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Todd Packer said:
NRL 360 pretty much did tonight.
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Fair enough. Thats half way official maybe.
 
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batboy said:
I would bet that's what it is....
Souths aren't getting rid of Campbell Graham, Mitchell or Walker,
Unless they're playing Wighton at lock or 14...
That Leaves 1 centre spot for him - And I just don't see a way they can pay him that much money to play centre
with some of the other big money names they have....
Arrow apparently signed for 800k a Year,
Murray - Walker on about the same...
Now Wighton on 800, And LM on a Motsa....

I feel like you, Something is lop sided there and Ilias might be feeling the tap coming....
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U guys r too smart.
 
Halbrowne61 said:
But aren’t the forwards more a means to an end, rather than an end in themselves.
They can do lots of good work but not having finishers means it’s a waste of time and energy
Eventually this reduces the forwards performance coz having no finishers means their toil is wasted.
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I basically agree but I think you are selling them a little short. Forwards bust the line in the middle and out wide now and score points. Pole busted over on the weekend. Stef has a couple of times I think this season. Edge backrowers are now the target for halves just as much as centres.

I'm not trying to argue that backs aren't important though or that your halves aren't critical. It's okay to want our players to perform better than what they have. We haven't had too many top performers. Api has been fantastic. I haven't seen performances like he has put in from a Tigers player for years. He deserves a massive wrap. Have any other players performed as well as Api has in their respective positions ?
 
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