Adam Hartigan

[TigerWest]

Dt reporting another high profile WT administrator in the the firing line.

Hopefully its the leaders!
but then who leaked this to DT?
We'll end up sacking everyone!

I would think it is one of the leakers as well

What was Hartigan’s mates name? Did a lot of the analysis work, might be him?

He isn't really an administrator, Scott Woodward

No the bloke (Indian or Asian sounding name) came in with Hartigan I thought?

Fita Hala came from Roosters too if I'm not wrong. Polynesian bloke.

That’s him, apologies to him for mistaking ethnicity.

This was just a guess for the rumour of who may be the other target for going?

 

[cochise]

Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I was hoping Hartigan would be that balance which is what has raised my concern over the increasing role of Sheens.

I understand what you are saying with this, and I have say I agree with you.....but.....

It seems to me that other than Melbourne (and potentially Roosters) all clubs have to roll the dice with salary cap. I'd put it to you that Cleary screwed our cap harder than Sheens did. Penrith just won the comp and if the media is to be believed, they are already needing to push players out.

Our salary cap is nice and neatly sorted right now. Nice and neat and safe and tidy and we dont look like threatening success on the field at all. Fortune favours the bold and all that.

I think (calculated) risks need to be taken. I am very nervous about McDonnell being brought back but heartened that the club seems to be making changes.

Sheens messed it as bad as Cleary, just have to trust he doesn't again.

 

[frullens]

Anyone know the constitution and how a board member would get the boot?

Majority vote from the other board members?

 

[cochise]

Dt reporting another high profile WT administrator in the the firing line.

Hopefully its the leaders!
but then who leaked this to DT?
We'll end up sacking everyone!

I would think it is one of the leakers as well

What was Hartigan’s mates name? Did a lot of the analysis work, might be him?

He isn't really an administrator, Scott Woodward

No the bloke (Indian or Asian sounding name) came in with Hartigan I thought?

Fita Hala came from Roosters too if I'm not wrong. Polynesian bloke.

That’s him, apologies to him for mistaking ethnicity.

This was just a guess for the rumour of who may be the other target for going?

He is not an administrator, just talent identification, but I would have him out the door.

 

[frullens]

Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I was hoping Hartigan would be that balance which is what has raised my concern over the increasing role of Sheens.

I understand what you are saying with this, and I have say I agree with you.....but.....

It seems to me that other than Melbourne (and potentially Roosters) all clubs have to roll the dice with salary cap. I'd put it to you that Cleary screwed our cap harder than Sheens did. Penrith just won the comp and if the media is to be believed, they are already needing to push players out.

Our salary cap is nice and neatly sorted right now. Nice and neat and safe and tidy and we dont look like threatening success on the field at all. Fortune favours the bold and all that.

I think (calculated) risks need to be taken. I am very nervous about McDonnell being brought back but heartened that the club seems to be making changes.

Sheens messed it as bad as Cleary, just have to trust he doesn't again.

This time Sheens isn't coach - you'd think that would get him a different perspective as administrator.

 

[Telltails]

Humphries was just as guilty for stuffing up the cap when Sheens was coach. I don't think he was the lone ranger there.

 

[cochise]

Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I was hoping Hartigan would be that balance which is what has raised my concern over the increasing role of Sheens.

I understand what you are saying with this, and I have say I agree with you.....but.....

It seems to me that other than Melbourne (and potentially Roosters) all clubs have to roll the dice with salary cap. I'd put it to you that Cleary screwed our cap harder than Sheens did. Penrith just won the comp and if the media is to be believed, they are already needing to push players out.

Our salary cap is nice and neatly sorted right now. Nice and neat and safe and tidy and we dont look like threatening success on the field at all. Fortune favours the bold and all that.

I think (calculated) risks need to be taken. I am very nervous about McDonnell being brought back but heartened that the club seems to be making changes.

Sheens messed it as bad as Cleary, just have to trust he doesn't again.

This time Sheens isn't coach - you'd think that would get him a different perspective as administrator.

Maybe, Maybe not.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Dt reporting another high profile WT administrator in the the firing line.

Hopefully its the leaders!
but then who leaked this to DT?
We'll end up sacking everyone!

I would think it is one of the leakers as well

What was Hartigan’s mates name? Did a lot of the analysis work, might be him?

He isn't really an administrator, Scott Woodward

No the bloke (Indian or Asian sounding name) came in with Hartigan I thought?

Fita Hala came from Roosters too if I'm not wrong. Polynesian bloke.

I suppose that some people that say that Hartigan was a Roosters reject, will say the same about Hala.

 

[Demps]

Dt reporting another high profile WT administrator in the the firing line.

Hopefully its the leaders!
but then who leaked this to DT?
We'll end up sacking everyone!

I would think it is one of the leakers as well

What was Hartigan’s mates name? Did a lot of the analysis work, might be him?

He isn't really an administrator, Scott Woodward

No the bloke (Indian or Asian sounding name) came in with Hartigan I thought?

Fita Hala came from Roosters too if I'm not wrong. Polynesian bloke.

I suppose that some people that say that Hartigan was a Roosters reject, will say the same about Hala.

Both aren't good enough for our powerhouse club.

 

[tigerballs]

Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I’m always bewildered at the hate for Sheens. He won us a comp and nearly 3 and all you hear is” he ruined our cap”. Take a look at every premiership team since and all their ungrateful fans are saying the same. It kills me that St George fans still hate Bennett for the state he left the club in. He won the comp when thousands couldn’t! Sheens is famous for finding Noah Nadruka in Fiji, 25 yo Ken Nagas in Moree….he know’s what to do. We’re in good hands.

 

[tigerballs]


Dennis is the most ridiculous, cartoon figure in a board that is having a lot of attention put on them due to the poor performance of the club in general.

The fact that Dennis looks like a ridiculous cartoon figure doesnt necessarily mean that he is the leaker.

I dont personally know what his performance is as a board member...at all. I have zero clue whether he is an asset or not. I do think he looks ridiculous but I also think people should be free to be themselves.

TLDR.....I'd rather cut board members on the basis of whether they are leaking information rather than how ridiculous they look.

Do you know Dennis’ story?

 

[tigerballs]

Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .

I was hoping Hartigan would be that balance which is what has raised my concern over the increasing role of Sheens.

I understand what you are saying with this, and I have say I agree with you.....but.....

It seems to me that other than Melbourne (and potentially Roosters) all clubs have to roll the dice with salary cap. I'd put it to you that Cleary screwed our cap harder than Sheens did. Penrith just won the comp and if the media is to be believed, they are already needing to push players out.

Our salary cap is nice and neatly sorted right now. Nice and neat and safe and tidy and we dont look like threatening success on the field at all. Fortune favours the bold and all that.

I think (calculated) risks need to be taken. I am very nervous about McDonnell being brought back but heartened that the club seems to be making changes.

Sheens messed it as bad as Cleary, just have to trust he doesn't again.

Sheens won a comp and came close a couple of times in a short space of time. Almost a Melbourne, Roosters run. And you’re telling us he messed up the salary cap. What’s your priority, Pascoe getting the club into the black or Sheens winning us a comp?

 

[cochise]

Our recruitment of senior players to supplement the club until the juniors who look strong are ready has been horrible. The GM of Football has been sacked and the coach is on thin ice with new assistants being hired.

I think one thing is clear that they are taking action. Sheens major strength is getting out pathways in order however, his connections around the league will pay dividends with player signings. Paying overs for shorter term deals for experience is probably a necessity at the moment.

I just hopw Sheens remembers what he did signing Adam Blair, he ripped the heart and soul out of the team for zero return.

Yep terrible decision. Blair at the time was a beast. Proved to be a major blunder. I don’t think it was the only reason.

Fifita was a lot of drama behind the scenes from memory . And from memory Gibbs lead the boys club , and many were calling for his head because he had had a few lean years . Lote was 35 , and benji and Beau had major issues because of the footy show .
All in all , the first team was a hot bed of personalities , media darlings and egotistical juniors coming through .
Sheens made some bad choices in Blair and that front rower who played a couple of games got smashed, because he wasn’t ready , and never got over it .
It happens , we just never had the infrastructure to absorb those misses . Mainly because our management lacked vision , and ability , and were more concerned with wearing blazers, and fighting over who gets first billing out of Balmain and Wests , than actually doing thier job .
Sheens knows how to navigate the politics here . Ad has always had elite juniors in his clubs wherever he has gone .
That’s not an accident .

He has also been terrible at managing the salary cap

Yea true . I’m not saying he’s some messiah , just he has always focused on juniors and developing them . Hopefully with all the back room improvement , we can put someone with an analytical brain to better do that .


I’m always bewildered at the hate for Sheens. He won us a comp and nearly 3 and all you hear is” he ruined our cap”. Take a look at every premiership team since and all their ungrateful fans are saying the same. It kills me that St George fans still hate Bennett for the state he left the club in. He won the comp when thousands couldn’t! Sheens is famous for finding Noah Nadruka in Fiji, 25 yo Ken Nagas in Moree….he know’s what to do. We’re in good hands.

The first 3 or so years of our decade without success is on Sheens.

 

[tony soprano]

Pascoe mark O'Neil swap

Wasn't Mark O'Neil sacked from the Tigers a few years ago because of inappropriate behaviour?

And

 

[cochise]

Pascoe mark O'Neil swap

Wasn't Mark O'Neil sacked from the Tigers a few years ago because of inappropriate behaviour?

And

If we are bringing Flanagan in why not bring in someone who behaves in an inappropriate manner like that.

 

[tony soprano]

Punt boris johnson lookalike

He's probably a nice guy

 

[tony soprano]

Pascoe mark O'Neil swap

Wasn't Mark O'Neil sacked from the Tigers a few years ago because of inappropriate behaviour?

And

If we are bringing Flanagan in why not bring in someone who behaves in an inappropriate manner like that.

Parra have

 

[tony soprano]


Dennis is the most ridiculous, cartoon figure in a board that is having a lot of attention put on them due to the poor performance of the club in general.

The fact that Dennis looks like a ridiculous cartoon figure doesnt necessarily mean that he is the leaker.

I dont personally know what his performance is as a board member...at all. I have zero clue whether he is an asset or not. I do think he looks ridiculous but I also think people should be free to be themselves.

TLDR.....I'd rather cut board members on the basis of whether they are leaking information rather than how ridiculous they look.


Do you know Dennis’ story?

Does anyone know his story?

 

[cochise]

Pascoe mark O'Neil swap

Wasn't Mark O'Neil sacked from the Tigers a few years ago because of inappropriate behaviour?

And

If we are bringing Flanagan in why not bring in someone who behaves in an inappropriate manner like that.

Parra have

Why would I care what Parra do?

 

[tony soprano]

Pascoe mark O'Neil swap

Wasn't Mark O'Neil sacked from the Tigers a few years ago because of inappropriate behaviour?

And

If we are bringing Flanagan in why not bring in someone who behaves in an inappropriate manner like that.

Parra have

Why would I care what Parra do?

When did I say I care?