America - Gun Control

[MG1962]

LOL
ABC, Listverse, Wikipedia and News.com.
Do you want to quote any adults?

So only opinion pieces from the NRA count for you. Seriously just stop - you are miles away from being able to rationally discuss this issue.

Is the US DOJ an NRA opinion piece? What about the FBI? Forbes? Washington Post?
Your ignorance and lack of comprehension mixed with your hatred and low IQ are letting you down. I know you are young but you can not go through life with this level of pig headedness and naievity. Time to grow up son. People think differently to you and you need to get over it.

In the time you have been a member of this forum over 900 more Americans have been killed by guns. In the same time 9 people were killed by a terrorist with a truck, and the government is looking at further changes to immigration laws.

Why do you think that is?

 

[Munk]

If that figure is accurate id like to see the breakdown. Id imagine the vast majority were through the drug gangs using illegal weapons. The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact. You will end up with a society where millions of hoods are armed and preying upon defenceless citizens. Major gun related crime will certainly rise.

 

[MG1962]

If that figure is accurate id like to see the breakdown. Id imagine the vast majority were through the drug gangs using illegal weapons. The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact. You will end up with a society where millions of hoods are armed and preying upon defenceless citizens. Major gun related crime will certainly rise.

So then you would agree dismantling Homeland security is the best option because no sanctions, law changes or restrictions will have any impact?

 

[Munk]

If that figure is accurate id like to see the breakdown. Id imagine the vast majority were through the drug gangs using illegal weapons. The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact. You will end up with a society where millions of hoods are armed and preying upon defenceless citizens. Major gun related crime will certainly rise.

So then you would agree dismantling Homeland security is the best option because no sanctions, law changes or restrictions will have any impact?

In what way is that relevant?

 

[MG1962]

In what way is that relevant?

Well when it comes to guns no law changes will make a difference. Why cant the same thing be said for terrorism or any other criminal activity?

 

[Munk]

In what way is that relevant?

Well when it comes to guns no law changes will make a difference. Why cant the same thing be said for terrorism or any other criminal activity?

I didnt say that.
I said the majority of gun related deaths in America are either gang related homicide committed with illegal weapons or suicide. You just lump them all together and try to portray that the large figure can be controlled through legislative intervention. It can not.

As for your silly attempted analogy with homeland security. The less said the better.

 

[MG1962]

I didnt say that.
I said the majority of gun related deaths in America are either gang related homicide committed with illegal weapons or suicide. You just lump them all together and try to portray that the large figure can be controlled through legislative intervention. It can not.

As for your silly attempted analogy with homeland security. The less said the better.

Are you going to claim you did not post this statement 2 posts ago?

**The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact.**

Again I ask, why is any legislation change perfectly valid for a terrorist attack, but not for gun related deaths?

 

[Munk]

I didnt say that.
I said the majority of gun related deaths in America are either gang related homicide committed with illegal weapons or suicide. You just lump them all together and try to portray that the large figure can be controlled through legislative intervention. It can not.

As for your silly attempted analogy with homeland security. The less said the better.

Are you going to claim you did not post this statement 2 posts ago?

**The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact.**

Again I ask, why is any legislation change perfectly valid for a terrorist attack, but not for gun related deaths?

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

 

[MG1962]

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

Obvious evasion after being caught in a lie noted

 

[earl]

Munk - you've been caught out so many times it's not funny. I said earlier you should give up. Just stop now. We get it - you don't have rational points because your arguments aren't rational.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I didnt say that.
I said the majority of gun related deaths in America are either gang related homicide committed with illegal weapons or suicide. You just lump them all together and try to portray that the large figure can be controlled through legislative intervention. It can not.

As for your silly attempted analogy with homeland security. The less said the better.

Are you going to claim you did not post this statement 2 posts ago?

**The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact.**

Again I ask, why is any legislation change perfectly valid for a terrorist attack, but not for gun related deaths?

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

one could also assume by your username that you omitted the e and y at the end and even munkeys can be taught to use guns and cameras so should munkeys also be allowed to own weapons?

 

[Munk]

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

Obvious evasion after being caught in a lie noted

Ok here it is you dullard ( this is for the dunces who agree as well)
Most gun crime in America is perpetrated by criminals with illegal weapons. Banning guns will do NOTHING to stop this. These weapons are smuggled, illegally imported and illegally sold by criminal dealers. In no way whatsoever can the tightening of legislation on guns solve this problem. You guys just do not understand this problem and are just reactionary bedwetters on this issue.

As for your silly analogy on homeland security, Legislation and tighter controls does have an effect as has been proven hundreds of times since 911\. Its not hard MG and someone your age should have been able to work this out for themselves.

 

[Munk]

I didnt say that.
I said the majority of gun related deaths in America are either gang related homicide committed with illegal weapons or suicide. You just lump them all together and try to portray that the large figure can be controlled through legislative intervention. It can not.

As for your silly attempted analogy with homeland security. The less said the better.

Are you going to claim you did not post this statement 2 posts ago?

**The problem with that is that no sanctions, law changes, restrictions etc will have any impact.**

Again I ask, why is any legislation change perfectly valid for a terrorist attack, but not for gun related deaths?

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

one could also assume by your username that you omitted the e and y at the end and even munkeys can be taught to use guns and cameras so should munkeys also be allowed to own weapons?

Well according to one of your BS stories you told on another thread, you have owned and used one at some stage to fire on human beings so i guess the answer is yes?

 

[Munk]

Munk - you've been caught out so many times it's not funny. I said earlier you should give up. Just stop now. We get it - you don't have rational points because your arguments aren't rational.

Chalk up yet another earl post with no substance.

 

[Geo]

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

Obvious evasion after being caught in a lie noted

Ok here it is you dullard ( this is for the dunces who agree as well)
Most gun crime in America is perpetrated by criminals with illegal weapons. Banning guns will do NOTHING to stop this. These weapons are smuggled, illegally imported and illegally sold by criminal dealers. In no way whatsoever can the tightening of legislation on guns solve this problem. You guys just do not understand this problem and are just reactionary bedwetters on this issue.

As for your silly analogy on homeland security, Legislation and tighter controls does have an effect as has been proven hundreds of times since 911\. Its not hard MG and someone your age should have been able to work this out for themselves.

Well forget the illegal killings…criminals will always be criminals..

What about some control for the average joe blow who can purchase many of these weapons like cornflakes...It seems all the mass shootings of little kids and what not the weapons were obtained legally...

 

[Munk]

I assume by your username that you are 55 years old. If i have to explain the above to you then there is a problem dont you think?

Obvious evasion after being caught in a lie noted

Ok here it is you dullard ( this is for the dunces who agree as well)
Most gun crime in America is perpetrated by criminals with illegal weapons. Banning guns will do NOTHING to stop this. These weapons are smuggled, illegally imported and illegally sold by criminal dealers. In no way whatsoever can the tightening of legislation on guns solve this problem. You guys just do not understand this problem and are just reactionary bedwetters on this issue.

As for your silly analogy on homeland security, Legislation and tighter controls does have an effect as has been proven hundreds of times since 911\. Its not hard MG and someone your age should have been able to work this out for themselves.

Well forget the illegal killings…criminals will always be criminals..

What about some control for the average joe blow who can purchase many of these weapons like cornflakes...It seems all the mass shootings of little kids and what not the weapons were obtained legally...

Yes thats true and i am not against tighter controls on devices that can turn semi to auto. That said, blanket bans will not stop these mass shootings. They are not random acts but are strongly planned in advance. Severe restrictions do not stop the black market. Simple as that. The answer to the problem most likely lies in the societal and cultural mentalities of the population. Thankfully, smarter people than us are working on solutions as to why these shootings keep happening. My point is if you take away legal avenues, you open more illegal ones. Infringeing upon the rights of hundreds of millions of citizens is not a good enough result.

 

[earl]

Munk - did you just admit that legal guns actually killed little kids as well as adults. I'll try and explain this to you really slowly. Blanket bans on guns would have a massive impact on the mass shootings. Just try and grasp that concept because it's reality.

How far gun reform gets pushed is open to debate but stop trying to deny the reality of the current situation and the potential for gun reform to have a massive impact in relation to minimising mass shootings and the overall homicide rate.

Try not to argue with the facts of the situation anymore.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Munk, we can agree that societal and cultural mentalities of a population are the problem, but they are guided by their leaders and lawmakers.

It is well and truly time the US congressional representatives (read mostly Republicans in this case as it is basically a gerrymandered Congress) put the good of the country before their own funding and electoral interests to provide some leadership on gun control. A bipartisan approach almost always lays the foundation for eventual public acceptance of an issue.

 

[Munk]

Munk - did you just admit that legal guns actually killed little kids as well as adults. I'll try and explain this to you really slowly. Blanket bans on guns would have a massive impact on the mass shootings. Just try and grasp that concept because it's reality.

How far gun reform gets pushed is open to debate but stop trying to deny the reality of the current situation and the potential for gun reform to have a massive impact in relation to minimising mass shootings and the overall homicide rate.

Try not to argue with the facts of the situation anymore.

That is not fact it is opinion.

 

[earl]

Munk - did you just admit that legal guns actually killed little kids as well as adults. I'll try and explain this to you really slowly. Blanket bans on guns would have a massive impact on the mass shootings. Just try and grasp that concept because it's reality.

How far gun reform gets pushed is open to debate but stop trying to deny the reality of the current situation and the potential for gun reform to have a massive impact in relation to minimising mass shootings and the overall homicide rate.

Try not to argue with the facts of the situation anymore.

That is not fact it is opinion.

Actually it's not. That is why you are really struggling and showing how uninformed and in fact stupid your opinion is. No guns = much less killings.

I accept that reality is that isn't happening in America however the further they move down that path the less that these incidents will happen.

Honestly you need to just take a massive step back because you lack the ability to comment on this issue because you cannot be rational.