Completely unacceptable: ramifications

[TigerWest]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

 

[hobbo1]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

Need a hug ?

Nup .....not from a discorder ......just need a team that owns a set of nuts ...

Team Geo
Where everyone gets a trophy

See ya ?

 

[Milky]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

I would rather be the Broncs, they were playing finals not long ago and have the foundations for a re- build.

What foundations do we have? Plodders on long term contracts, no ability to attract talent, terrible coaching, the list goes on.

Broncs identified their issue, signed one of the best halves in the game, can attract decent players etc.

 

[hobbo1]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

He’s the biggest drama Queen on the forum
Relocate us ?
Kick us out ?
Can’t believe he calls himself happy lol ?

 

[tigerap]

Looking at Brooks in the change room he does not give a stuff

He is not a leader….a follower

Its his team remember

He has been told that for years, but he just doesn’t have the personality to own it….Hastings to 7 and to own the team, brooks go 6 and just run into holes with no responsibilities other than to run

 

[happy_tiger]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

Mate I've been at ramming speed too long ......maybe some of the pussies should lift ......I'd rather these losers lift ..but just make more excuses

 

[TigerWest]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

I would rather be the Broncs, they were playing finals not long ago and have the foundations for a re- build.

What foundations do we have? Plodders on long term contracts, no ability to attract talent, terrible coaching, the list goes on.

Broncs identified their issue, signed one of the best halves in the game, can attract decent players etc.

I do think it’s a cycle, our turn will come again.

 

[Demps]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

Mate I've been at ramming speed too long ......maybe some of the pussies should lift ......I'd rather these losers lift ..but just make more excuses

Wait
Maybe you need to go to rehab man.
Drugs are bad.
Don't do this happy, you're better than that.

 

[TigerVinnie]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......


Again, you're referring to the Tigers in particular. Kicking us out doesn't fix the problem because there is maybe about 4-5 teams who this applies to. Im talking about the entire state of the game where its top 4 vs the rest.

Kick them all out ...do us all a favour ...we made bad choices as fans ...now we play the price


Guess were going around in circles so never mind.

I look forward to another Penrith v Melbourne grand final for many years to come.

If they are the 2 best sides ...they deserve it

How is it different with Federer , Nadal and Djokovic ...they have owned two generations of tennis players ...maybe the ITF should have made them play right handed instead of left ..or left handed instead of right ...or given their opposition 2 games start .......or made them wear blindfolds .....

Your obviously from the "give the 14th place runner a ribbon " mindset ..thats fine Vinnie

Again for the third time. Has nothing to do with a team deserving it, Storm's system has been world class from day 1.

My point is: the same teams winning every game year in year out makes for a poor quality product and if the NRL want to grow the competition and bring in more fans - then 40-0 games two to three times a round will not do this.

Do you honestly enjoy the state the game is in right now?

 

[cqtiger]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

I would rather be the Broncs, they were playing finals not long ago and have the foundations for a re- build.

What foundations do we have? Plodders on long term contracts, no ability to attract talent, terrible coaching, the list goes on.

Broncs identified their issue, signed one of the best halves in the game, can attract decent players etc.


I do think it’s a cycle, our turn will come again.

I don’t have that long

 

[TigerWest]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

I would rather be the Broncs, they were playing finals not long ago and have the foundations for a re- build.

What foundations do we have? Plodders on long term contracts, no ability to attract talent, terrible coaching, the list goes on.

Broncs identified their issue, signed one of the best halves in the game, can attract decent players etc.


I do think it’s a cycle, our turn will come again.

I don’t have that long

Hopefully we are on the upturn of the cycle???

 

[851]

Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent as well, something Madge can't do

 

[Spud_Murphy]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

Unless something drastic changes in the next year or so, I’m fairly certain that us, the Dogs & Cronulla won’t be around for much longer - these clubs are surplus to the needs of the NRL’s future plans to cull some of the Sydney teams. The comp will have a powerful West (Penrith & Parramatta), East (Roosters & Souths), North (Manly & Newcastle) and South (St George & Canberra) representing NSW.

Another QLD team will be added to make it 4 rep teams in that state. However I don’t think the NRL expected Brisbane to be going as bad as it has been, no doubt it has put a spanner in their plans for a second Brisbane team, but I’m sure they will work furiously to help them out in some way. A second team in Melbourne is definitely on the cards.

This will leave it as a 14 team comp with room for expansion into other states if they so desire to make it a truly national (and hopefully more competitive) comp.

I honestly can’t wait for it to happen because it really just pains me to see the team/club that I have supported for so long spiral down into the non-entity of a club that it is now. At least if they’re not around anymore I won’t have to even think about them or be forced witness pea-hearted efforts, such as last night ever again. I won’t be supporting any team!

 

[cochise]

Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

I can't cop having Flanagan here, I don't think he should be involved in the sport at all, let alone coaching the club I support.

 

[cochise]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

Unless something drastic changes in the next year or so, I’m fairly certain that us, the Dogs & Cronulla won’t be around for much longer - these clubs are surplus to the needs of the NRL’s future plans to cull some of the Sydney teams. The comp will have a powerful West (Penrith & Parramatta), East (Roosters & Souths), North (Manly & Newcastle) and South (St George & Canberra) representing NSW.

Another QLD team will be added to make it 4 rep teams in that state. However I don’t think the NRL expected Brisbane to be going as bad as it has been, no doubt it has put a spanner in their plans for a second Brisbane team, but I’m sure they will work furiously to help them out in some way. A second team in Melbourne is definitely on the cards.

This will leave it as a 14 team comp with room for expansion into other states if they so desire to make it a truly national (and hopefully more competitive) comp.

I honestly can’t wait for it to happen because it really just pains me to see the team/club that I have supported for so long spiral down into the non-entity of a club that it is now. At least if they’re not around anymore I won’t have to even think about them or be forced witness pea-hearted efforts, such as last night ever again. I won’t be supporting any team!

I can't wish for the demise of something that I love.

 

[gallagher]

Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

 

[cochise]

Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

 

[gallagher]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

Unless something drastic changes in the next year or so, I’m fairly certain that us, the Dogs & Cronulla won’t be around for much longer - these clubs are surplus to the needs of the NRL’s future plans to cull some of the Sydney teams. The comp will have a powerful West (Penrith & Parramatta), East (Roosters & Souths), North (Manly & Newcastle) and South (St George & Canberra) representing NSW.

Another QLD team will be added to make it 4 rep teams in that state. However I don’t think the NRL expected Brisbane to be going as bad as it has been, no doubt it has put a spanner in their plans for a second Brisbane team, but I’m sure they will work furiously to help them out in some way. A second team in Melbourne is definitely on the cards.

This will leave it as a 14 team comp with room for expansion into other states if they so desire to make it a truly national (and hopefully more competitive) comp.

I honestly can’t wait for it to happen because it really just pains me to see the team/club that I have supported for so long spiral down into the non-entity of a club that it is now. At least if they’re not around anymore I won’t have to even think about them or be forced witness pea-hearted efforts, such as last night ever again. I won’t be supporting any team!

I fear that's the future.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

Unless something drastic changes in the next year or so, I’m fairly certain that us, the Dogs & Cronulla won’t be around for much longer - these clubs are surplus to the needs of the NRL’s future plans to cull some of the Sydney teams. The comp will have a powerful West (Penrith & Parramatta), East (Roosters & Souths), North (Manly & Newcastle) and South (St George & Canberra) representing NSW.

Another QLD team will be added to make it 4 rep teams in that state. However I don’t think the NRL expected Brisbane to be going as bad as it has been, no doubt it has put a spanner in their plans for a second Brisbane team, but I’m sure they will work furiously to help them out in some way. A second team in Melbourne is definitely on the cards.

This will leave it as a 14 team comp with room for expansion into other states if they so desire to make it a truly national (and hopefully more competitive) comp.

I honestly can’t wait for it to happen because it really just pains me to see the team/club that I have supported for so long spiral down into the non-entity of a club that it is now. At least if they’re not around anymore I won’t have to even think about them or be forced witness pea-hearted efforts, such as last night ever again. I won’t be supporting any team!

I can't wish for the demise of something that I love.

When you see something you love in such pain and there is nothing that can be done for it, then you want to put it out of its misery.

 

[gallagher]

Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.