Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

[WT2K]

Ryan Matterson's management team orchestrating his Wests Tigers exit. The truth is, and always will be, cash. How funny if he ends up at a club where one of his manager's clients is the head coach....
https://twitter.com/woodward_curtis/status/1173449179248627713?s=19

 

[Spud_Murphy]

This is just purely me guessing...but the SMH story journo is very reliable, and if you look at the timeline his unhappiness is around Origin time....

Where it is likely players mentioned their own conditions / compared it to us...and also he was overlooked for the games whilst Saints, Knights, Sharks players all went in ahead of him...even Tariq Sims, who had a horrible year.

Certain clubs always get players in those sides.

**It is well known those camps and officials basically crap on the Tigers / ex players rave about how much better things are away from us.**

Just a guess, but I'd be surprised if they don't line up. Matterson is NOT Mitchell Moses. He comes across as very grounded, but def wants to reach his max potential.


It is well known? Never heard any such thing. Think most of this negative attitude towards our club is all in our own minds.

I don't know about people crapping on clubs in those camps, but i can guarantee officials with affiliations to clubs certainly do test the waters and let players know they would be interested in their services.

More like it I reckon.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Yes bugger body language ..let put our faith in Mum's..

Mums the word

 

[Telltails]

or 5 home grounds.

That's a new one, you mean the >2 home grounds we've had since 2004?

Tell me, is Pascoe also responsible for Balmain's 1989 Grand Final loss or Wests runners up 1961-63?

Well one of 2 things he said he'd do when he turned up was that he'd get us playing out of 1 ground. How'd he going with that?


Well he's not finished yet. Judge him when he's gone on that one.

If you reckon a CEO, any CEO, can get Wests Tigers to a single home ground inside of, what, 4 seasons, if that's the pass mark... well... well I hope you sign him up for life if we actually do move full-time to 1 stadium.

He has got it down, has he not, diluted the CSS and LO games to just 3 each? Maybe Tamworth and Auckland / Magic Millions rounds are smart moves to gradually reduce our reliance on CSS and LO, in anticipation of a full-time move somewhere else?

With 2 new stadia coming in the next few seasons, surely this is as likely a time as any for Tigers to consolidate grounds?

What crap. He could have committed to a full time venue in his first year. Your excuses for him are so lame.

And the contracts we signed for these current grounds - what do we do with those?

Did we have a contract at LO and CSS? I know we do now, they were re-signed last year for this year and next. I would say don't sign them in the first place.

I was under the impression that we had a long contract with ANZ, because of the planned renovations and the inability of ANZ to fulfill their part of the bargain - our contract / or part thereof was transferred to Bankwest. Anyone know the real story?

Yes the contract with Homebush was transfered to bankwest. You think they would not have altered the contract to play all our games there if we asked?

Did you just think for one moment @gallagher that data shows that memberships for the two home grounds sell well, and that by moving to Bankwest may alienate the supporter base and cost the club substantially financially.
This forum alone has shown that the fans have not got on board. That may change in the future, but it would have been irresponsible and fool hardy to move totally to the traditional home ground of one of our competitors without first testing it out.

 

[gallagher]

or 5 home grounds.

That's a new one, you mean the >2 home grounds we've had since 2004?

Tell me, is Pascoe also responsible for Balmain's 1989 Grand Final loss or Wests runners up 1961-63?

Well one of 2 things he said he'd do when he turned up was that he'd get us playing out of 1 ground. How'd he going with that?


Well he's not finished yet. Judge him when he's gone on that one.

If you reckon a CEO, any CEO, can get Wests Tigers to a single home ground inside of, what, 4 seasons, if that's the pass mark... well... well I hope you sign him up for life if we actually do move full-time to 1 stadium.

He has got it down, has he not, diluted the CSS and LO games to just 3 each? Maybe Tamworth and Auckland / Magic Millions rounds are smart moves to gradually reduce our reliance on CSS and LO, in anticipation of a full-time move somewhere else?

With 2 new stadia coming in the next few seasons, surely this is as likely a time as any for Tigers to consolidate grounds?

What crap. He could have committed to a full time venue in his first year. Your excuses for him are so lame.

And the contracts we signed for these current grounds - what do we do with those?

Did we have a contract at LO and CSS? I know we do now, they were re-signed last year for this year and next. I would say don't sign them in the first place.

I was under the impression that we had a long contract with ANZ, because of the planned renovations and the inability of ANZ to fulfill their part of the bargain - our contract / or part thereof was transferred to Bankwest. Anyone know the real story?

Yes the contract with Homebush was transfered to bankwest. You think they would not have altered the contract to play all our games there if we asked?

Did you just think for one moment @gallagher that data shows that memberships for the two home grounds sell well, and that by moving to Bankwest may alienate the supporter base and cost the club substantially financially.
This forum alone has shown that the fans have not got on board. That may change in the future, but it would have been irresponsible and fool hardy to move totally to the traditional home ground of one of our competitors without first testing it out.

I'm saying we should have been at Homebush fulltime for years, at least a decade, before bankwest was even built. This half arsed approach is plain stupid.

 

[Snake]

@Telltails Obviously you have the breakdown of memberships to each ground to make your case . The club has been alienating the supporter base for 20yrs . The real money is memberships for a club up front and in the bank and that is all that matters not having to wait for the hit and miss supporters .
The clubs that will survive in Sydney will be playing out of modern stadiums that have a base capacity of 30 k.
Like it or not this is coming faster than most would like might as well get used to it ! If you could make that data re memberships available that would be interesting .

 

[wonka]

@Snake Is that why Matterson is unhappy, Leaving to join the Eels so he can play all his home games at Bank west.

 

[Telltails]

@Telltails Obviously you have the breakdown of memberships to each ground to make your case . The club has been alienating the supporter base for 20yrs . The real money is memberships for a club up front and in the bank and that is all that matters not having to wait for the hit and miss supporters .
The clubs that will survive in Sydney will be playing out of modern stadiums that have a base capacity of 30 k.
Like it or not this is coming faster than most would like might as well get used to it !

No I don't Snake but the club would. Not disputing that stadiums are essential but that does not mean Bankwest is the option for us - and there is certainly no evidence to support that playing out of one fancy stadium will bring you any level of success if your roster is not good enough.
And if this push by you for Bankwest is about achieving success alone, we have proved in 2005/10/11 that you can achieve results by playing at both our traditional grounds and stadiums if your roster is good enough.

 

[gallagher]

@Telltails Obviously you have the breakdown of memberships to each ground to make your case . The club has been alienating the supporter base for 20yrs . The real money is memberships for a club up front and in the bank and that is all that matters not having to wait for the hit and miss supporters .
The clubs that will survive in Sydney will be playing out of modern stadiums that have a base capacity of 30 k.
Like it or not this is coming faster than most would like might as well get used to it !

No I don't Snake but the club would. Not disputing that stadiums are essential but that does not mean Bankwest is the option for us - and there is certainly no evidence to support that playing out of one fancy stadium will bring you any level of success if your roster is not good enough.
And if this push by you for Bankwest is about achieving success alone, we have proved in 2005/10/11 that you can achieve results by playing at both our traditional grounds and stadiums if your roster is good enough.

It brings you financial stabliity. Look where the rich Sydney teams are playing and where the poor ones play.

 

[Masterton]

we let him go and we are spineless. we keep him and he turns out to be another M Moses- played like crap with us to get out of the contract and then killed it at another club.

Am I the only one hoping that Matto will be man enough to play to his best if we force him to stay?

 

[Joel Helmes]

Ryan Matterson's management team orchestrating his Wests Tigers exit. The truth is, and always will be, cash. How funny if he ends up at a club where one of his manager's clients is the head coach....
https://twitter.com/woodward_curtis/status/1173449179248627713?s=19

Ultimate irony that he ends up at the Eels with Brad Arthur.

 

[tiger05premier]

we let him go and we are spineless. we keep him and he turns out to be another M Moses- played like crap with us to get out of the contract and then killed it at another club.

Am I the only one hoping that Matto will be man enough to play to his best if we force him to stay?

We should hold him to his contract

And the NRL should stand by our stance

And Matterson should accept it because no one held a gun to the sooks head and made him sign with the tigers

And no one from the tigers made the coach he signed with (IC) leave the tigers

Yet again we've done nothing wrong but are on a hiding to nothing

 

[WT2K]

Ryan Matterson's management team orchestrating his Wests Tigers exit. The truth is, and always will be, cash. How funny if he ends up at a club where one of his manager's clients is the head coach....
https://twitter.com/woodward_curtis/status/1173449179248627713?s=19


Ultimate irony that he ends up at the Eels with Brad Arthur.

No idea how true that statement is... but the management group has Arthur as you mentioned along with Bellamy and Bennett.

 

[Viking Warrior]

If Eels want him, they can give us Nathan Brown or Sivo as compensation.

 

[Harvey]

If Matterson is that unhappy with his current occupation he can retire and get a job. Otherwise he has a contract for the next 2 years and is welcome to fulfill it

 

[Roar_Power]

We all find a bit of a hero in this bloke, then he goes and does something like this. Even if we keep him long term, I personally have a bit of disdain for him now. Showing some pretty shallow character at the moment. Get tough with him Madge.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Having just seen his interview with Johns thanks to @WT2K, I feel similarly to as I did after watching the traitor's address 13 odd months ago. For mine it reeked of not only being about cash, but also Ryan's relationship with Maguire, even though the coach conveyed that he could work around it.

I was absolutely certain of the traitor situation immediately whilst watching his dribble and not far from being convinced again this time around, with the Matterson silence deafening.

 

[NT_Tiger]

@formerguest
I agree with the money angle but disagree with the relationship part. Maguire spoke confidently and looked directly at Johns when he was answering about his relationship with Matterson. He vacillated about working through 'things', money things?, finals things? other things?
Bottom line is, he started his answer saying he's contracted to play with WT for two more years.

 

[Joel Helmes]

We just put a poll up on Facebook asking fans whether they’d back Maguire or Matterson if push comes to shove. Not looking to good for Ryan with 90% of respondents backing the coach.