Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

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@ElleryHanley It's nice that all the players know who will win the GF. You hear about these players leaving their club and joining another because they want to win a GF, doesn't that just scream to you that the comp isn't fair and on a level playing field? Even the players know it, openly express it.
 
@jirskyr said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066150) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066121) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066116) said:
@supercoach said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066114) said:
@Masterton said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066110) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066084) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066058) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066049) said:
And your comparing us to Manly because .......one sin binning from being one step from a GF and we destroyed by the team Manly destroyed

Manly have a strong history of performing ......the WT's ??????


Are you on one of your melancholy rampages again ?
?

Nah ......just amazes me how some always find it is always everyone's elses fault bar the WT's fault

...and some would blame the club for bad weather.

We have had more than our fair share of negative publicity.potter Farah thing
Botched attempts to resign JAC
The Taylor years with the Farah sacking
Clearygate
Salary cap breach
And now Matto thing

At some point you have to look ar yourself and ask some hard questions


This a thousand times, and you can add the ‘big 3’ debacle to that list as well.

I just want one year, just one bloody off season where we are not in the news for all the wrong reasons - is that too much to ask?

You're going a bit OTT. Outside of the forum, I haven't seen anything about this for a week. The club hasn't done anything wrong, nor has anyone in the media claimed we have. Its been the opposite, we've received a lot of sympathy. To put it in perspective, a player wants out of his contract, he hasn't been accused of rape or been done drink driving. And it's not a situation where the club will be dudded like it was with the big 3, cos we have him under contract for 2 more years. And the only way that changes is if we can get a better outcome than we would by keeping him. Exactly like the Cleary situation. You complain about that, but there's no doubting we came out of that drama better for it with a better coach.

Agreed. Yes we've had negative press but you only need to give it 2 minutes thought to see that this stuff extends to so many clubs year on year. It's the nature of footy, the spotlight and the large number of morons who play professional rugby league.

I personally believe it's more about how you handle the situation, rather than the fact that situations occur. Tigers have handled everything quite well the past 2 seasons, all things considered.

E.g.

* Dogs - Foran injuries, Dylan Napa sex tape, coaching crisis, Board overhaul, salary cap crisis, releasing a number of popular old players, Aaron Woods, Moses Suli, nude Mad Monday
* Knights - Brown walks away, Ponga demanding high money, failing to make 8, Ramien left, Nathan Tinkler, Mullen drugs, Houston and Wicks jailed, Saifiti fight
* Parra - salary cap fraud, releasing Norman, Corey Norman videos, wooden spoon, Jarryd Hayne, Kenny Edwards
* Titans - general lack of success, wooden spoon, previous financial issues, coaching turmoil, long-term scrutiny, crowds, Jarryd Hayne
* Manly - Trent Barrett, ownership fights, asbestos, Jake Turbo grabbing people, injury toll, salary cap fraud, DCE / Hastings fight
* Dragons - coaching issues, high profile signing failures, De Belin
* Broncos - pokiesgate, Seibold failure, Bennett on bad terms, poor decision-making on juniors, injuries in key spots, under-performing players, lack of success despite advantages, Jimmy Jet
* Sharks - suspended coach, salary cap fraud, peptides, Andrew Fifita's general behaviour, off-field financial struggles, lack of sponsorship, goal kicking
* Panthers - paying players to play elsewhere, mass exodus, failed coach head-hunting, all eggs in one Cleary basket, Phil Gould leaving, sex tapes
* Cowboys - Ben Barba, failing seasons, post-Thurston struggles, coaching concerns, Scott Bolton assault

The reality is, if you don't have a very successful season - literally, it needs to be very successful, at least Top 6, more likely Top 4 - then negative stories abound. And even when you do have a good season, Pearce fake roots a dog and Jesse Bromwich snorts coke in a gay nightclub.

But this is obvious, because winning clubs are usually happy clubs. It's much easier to keep your crew together and happy when everyone is doing well, being paid well and covering themselves in on-field glory.

Someone said before, we just need some winning seasons and then the bits and pieces of crap will reduce.


Such a good post. You have genuinely added to the discussion. Thanks for the effort that went into crafting it.
 
@Mccarry said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066313) said:
@jirskyr said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066150) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066121) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066116) said:
@supercoach said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066114) said:
@Masterton said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066110) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066084) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066058) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066049) said:
And your comparing us to Manly because .......one sin binning from being one step from a GF and we destroyed by the team Manly destroyed

Manly have a strong history of performing ......the WT's ??????


Are you on one of your melancholy rampages again ?
?

Nah ......just amazes me how some always find it is always everyone's elses fault bar the WT's fault

...and some would blame the club for bad weather.

We have had more than our fair share of negative publicity.potter Farah thing
Botched attempts to resign JAC
The Taylor years with the Farah sacking
Clearygate
Salary cap breach
And now Matto thing

At some point you have to look ar yourself and ask some hard questions


This a thousand times, and you can add the ‘big 3’ debacle to that list as well.

I just want one year, just one bloody off season where we are not in the news for all the wrong reasons - is that too much to ask?

You're going a bit OTT. Outside of the forum, I haven't seen anything about this for a week. The club hasn't done anything wrong, nor has anyone in the media claimed we have. Its been the opposite, we've received a lot of sympathy. To put it in perspective, a player wants out of his contract, he hasn't been accused of rape or been done drink driving. And it's not a situation where the club will be dudded like it was with the big 3, cos we have him under contract for 2 more years. And the only way that changes is if we can get a better outcome than we would by keeping him. Exactly like the Cleary situation. You complain about that, but there's no doubting we came out of that drama better for it with a better coach.

Agreed. Yes we've had negative press but you only need to give it 2 minutes thought to see that this stuff extends to so many clubs year on year. It's the nature of footy, the spotlight and the large number of morons who play professional rugby league.

I personally believe it's more about how you handle the situation, rather than the fact that situations occur. Tigers have handled everything quite well the past 2 seasons, all things considered.

E.g.

* Dogs - Foran injuries, Dylan Napa sex tape, coaching crisis, Board overhaul, salary cap crisis, releasing a number of popular old players, Aaron Woods, Moses Suli, nude Mad Monday
* Knights - Brown walks away, Ponga demanding high money, failing to make 8, Ramien left, Nathan Tinkler, Mullen drugs, Houston and Wicks jailed, Saifiti fight
* Parra - salary cap fraud, releasing Norman, Corey Norman videos, wooden spoon, Jarryd Hayne, Kenny Edwards
* Titans - general lack of success, wooden spoon, previous financial issues, coaching turmoil, long-term scrutiny, crowds, Jarryd Hayne
* Manly - Trent Barrett, ownership fights, asbestos, Jake Turbo grabbing people, injury toll, salary cap fraud, DCE / Hastings fight
* Dragons - coaching issues, high profile signing failures, De Belin
* Broncos - pokiesgate, Seibold failure, Bennett on bad terms, poor decision-making on juniors, injuries in key spots, under-performing players, lack of success despite advantages, Jimmy Jet
* Sharks - suspended coach, salary cap fraud, peptides, Andrew Fifita's general behaviour, off-field financial struggles, lack of sponsorship, goal kicking
* Panthers - paying players to play elsewhere, mass exodus, failed coach head-hunting, all eggs in one Cleary basket, Phil Gould leaving, sex tapes
* Cowboys - Ben Barba, failing seasons, post-Thurston struggles, coaching concerns, Scott Bolton assault

The reality is, if you don't have a very successful season - literally, it needs to be very successful, at least Top 6, more likely Top 4 - then negative stories abound. And even when you do have a good season, Pearce fake roots a dog and Jesse Bromwich snorts coke in a gay nightclub.

But this is obvious, because winning clubs are usually happy clubs. It's much easier to keep your crew together and happy when everyone is doing well, being paid well and covering themselves in on-field glory.

Someone said before, we just need some winning seasons and then the bits and pieces of crap will reduce.


Such a good post. You have genuinely added to the discussion. Thanks for the effort that went into crafting it.

The thing with our negative press is that its usually results in someone leaving/quitting/sacked. Sheens, Marshall, Potter, Farah, Taylor, Woods, Tedescoe, Moses, Cleary, Matterson, Pascoe.... it never seems to end.
If it was just player behaviour etc it wouldnt bother fans that much.
 
@gallagher I didn't think Potter got sacked, I thought that they just never re-signed him.
 
@bathursttiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066320) said:
@gallagher I didn't think Potter got sacked, I thought that they just never re-signed him.
True,but the run in with Farah ended with him leaving.
 
@bathursttiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066320) said:
@gallagher I didn't think Potter got sacked, I thought that they just never re-signed him.

You are right, signed for 2 years, not renewed
 
I reckon given his recent leave, the tigers should bring Matterson back to cold call members and convince them to renew.
 
@851 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066323) said:
@bathursttiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066320) said:
@gallagher I didn't think Potter got sacked, I thought that they just never re-signed him.

You are right, signed for 2 years, not renewed

It used to really pip me off when the Media always implied that WT sacked him just to throw more mud at us.
Remember the Jurno's new creed is "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story"
 
This silence from the club on all fronts has been frustrating. Haven't even seen an announcement from the club about Benji re-signing yet. Media man must be on leave.
 
@Sabre said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066327) said:
This silence from the club on all fronts has been frustrating. Haven't even seen an announcement from the club about Benji re-signing yet. Media man must be on leave.

Well it is September
 
@bathursttiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066326) said:
@851 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066323) said:
@bathursttiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066320) said:
@gallagher I didn't think Potter got sacked, I thought that they just never re-signed him.

You are right, signed for 2 years, not renewed

It used to really pip me off when the Media always implied that WT sacked him just to throw more mud at us.
Remember the Jurno's new creed is "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story"

It probably doesn't happen too often, coaches seeing out their contract. Most get sacked in the end.
 
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066329) said:
@Sabre said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066327) said:
This silence from the club on all fronts has been frustrating. Haven't even seen an announcement from the club about Benji re-signing yet. Media man must be on leave.

Well it is September


Exactly. And Pascoe has been back since June. He’s due for a bit of R&R.
 
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066329) said:
@Sabre said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066327) said:
This silence from the club on all fronts has been frustrating. Haven't even seen an announcement from the club about Benji re-signing yet. Media man must be on leave.

Well it is September

Players are still at training. Season might only be March-October but they are running basically year round. Would expect the same from office staff, especially when Memberships are going on sale. I wouldn't think it's to hard to put an announcement out about re-signing a club legend.
 
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066307) said:
@ElleryHanley It's nice that all the players know who will win the GF. You hear about these players leaving their club and joining another because they want to win a GF, doesn't that just scream to you that the comp isn't fair and on a level playing field? Even the players know it, openly express it.


The NRL does not police it, that is why.

They need a free agency / trade / draft like the AFL....NBA......NFL.....

Every code with a salary cap has all those things.

Caps do not work without all the components.

Which is why we have this mess.
 
@Sabre said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066338) said:
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066329) said:
@Sabre said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1066327) said:
This silence from the club on all fronts has been frustrating. Haven't even seen an announcement from the club about Benji re-signing yet. Media man must be on leave.

Well it is September

Players are still at training. Season might only be March-October but they are running basically year round. Would expect the same from office staff, especially when Memberships are going on sale. I wouldn't think it's to hard to put an announcement out about re-signing a club legend.

Totally agree mate, just being sarcastic about how we operate.
Although it wouldn't surprise me if we closed down for 5 months. Im sure someone here could justify it.
 
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