Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

[momo_amp_medo]

We have 1.7 million dollars to spend. Enough cash to throw at anyone we wanted. We could offer the whole lot to Fifita and he’d be ours. And the forum still finds a way to wallow ?

Last post on this from me on this issue and you all can get back to patting the club on the back for negotiating a brilliant settlement of nothing.

Signing Fifita on 1.7 mil a year contract would be stupid and I would wallow. I feel we had a lot longer to make a decision on Matterson. Let the offseason start, get preseason going, move into next year. If it still hasn't worked out then and no one's offered anything then you can grant him a release and still collect your nothing then. By then, he'd have been holding out, damaging his reputation and not getting paid. other players would look at that and think that's not such a good idea. As it is, Matterson's had a whinge to his manager, skipped training, had a nice holiday and been rewarded with a release. That'll show the next player who tries a stunt like this!

The 400k saved on releasing Matterson isn't going to go directly to a player we're buying now as we already have freed up 1.3 million and we're not going to spend all of our cap now anyway.

So if you're scared about the daily telegraph writing big scary articles about you maybe you have to act now, but who cares what the press writes?

People keep talking about the players being upset with him, does that mean they're going to train less hard? Would there be no way of explaining the strategy to the players?

It just seems to me like we gain nothing by releasing him and it only harms us when this situation arises in the future. Giving Moses his release two years ago got us nothing and weakened wests tigers contracts. Releasing Matterson for nothing as well only damages the strength of our contracts more. Why would another team offer us something next time when they know how spineless we are? What's to stop a player from having a similar whinge when they see Matterson and Moses go on to have big contracts and representative success at other clubs after leaving our club? It's just a stupid shortsighted move by our club that resolves the issue today, but creates bigger hassles for us next time around.

At some point you have to wear a bit of discomfort to make things better. A bit of patience and conviction by the club would have really helped here. This isn't the Cleary situation. A coach who wants to be elsewhere stuffs up all of recruitment, training and decision making. Cleary had to go and we made that situation work and actually got compensation despite needing to move on from Cleary. Having a disgruntled player on the sideline isn't the same problem. New signings aren't justification for getting rid of Matterson for nothing. The two things don't correlate.

For goodness sake .... give it a rest.
We all agree .... your Nostradamus and a great addition to this commentary.

 

[Don Kershane]

where you have to be patient to get results.

Tigers fans know how to be patient. I'd say the club acted impatiently. But I suppose with the incredible track record of tigers management we can be confident they've once again triumphed over adversity and steered us back to the hallowed path.

Given how the club handled Cleary’s exit, i don’t see any reason to wallow in pessimism

You can wallow with the water buffalo or fly with the Eagles. I sacked 3 of my best performers as their attitude was killing the team. They are replaceable everyone is your culture and the organisation has to come first. Teams with great talent can fall apart when there is a shock event look at the Dragons.


100%

Where does one found these water Buffalo?


 

[Tim Sheens]

We have 5 spots we have to fill. If we only have $1.7m to spend, that’s an average of $340,000 per spot. Not a lot. Assuming we sign 2-3 on min wage, that leaves perhaps $1.2 across 2 decent signings. We do not have the cash to spending $1m on a marquee signing, unless we move on the likes of Reynolds and/or McQueen.

Still more than the average top squad payment if accurate iand what one would expect for five positions.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Sheesh and I wanted Matterson to be our captain, what a let down he turned out to be.

 

[Tiger5150]

Just reliving the glory of my earlier predictions on the Matulino, reynolds and packer signings. many saying we should just be positive here were the same ones doing so back then too. Sorry to be a j*rk. This is the thread I wrote on the signings:

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/26083/doubts-about-latest-signings?page=1

Most called me pessimistic back then too.

You went to the trouble of digging out an old post to say "I told you so?".Wow.

 

[rustycage]

According to what The Barry, a 'Roar' Guru said in his article if correct...Matterson was no. 1 for 2nd rowers this year averaging 131 run metres per game combined with on average 36 tackles per game, Also no.1 for post-contact metres.

Unlike Michelle Moses, Matterson was dedicated and decent enough to play his heart out in every game for Our Wests Tigers this year.

So What happened?

How could we let a player with his talent slip through our fingers?

All the talk of 'we're gonna play hardball with Matterson by not giving him $1 more than his contracted amount until at least the end of 2020, we'll show him who's boss'.

To me, it doesn't seem to have worked out in our favour.

From what we have been told, it appears to be no one either bothered or was capable of sitting down and talking/appealing to Matterson's decency directly, to work out a deal that would work for him and Us. The result...it appears very likely 'we' have lost a great talent and some other bugger will gain a great talent.

**I may be completely wrong**, but I still feel there is something? that as yet has not been said with regard to Ryan Matterson not being at Wests Tigers next year :cherries: :church: :snowman_without_snow:

I agree with one half of one sentence.

 

[TYGA]

We have 5 spots we have to fill. If we only have $1.7m to spend, that’s an average of $340,000 per spot. Not a lot. Assuming we sign 2-3 on min wage, that leaves perhaps $1.2 across 2 decent signings. We do not have the cash to spending $1m on a marquee signing, unless we move on the likes of Reynolds and/or McQueen.

McQueen reportedly has a longer term offer he may take and I wouldn’t be surprised if Reynolds and Mbye are shopped. We have 5m the next year and there’s not much available for 2020 in either case. Arrow ad Brimson would be the smart play position of need, good young players and I reckon Mbye/Reynolds would appeal to them if they are losing both.

 

[BZN]

yeh, and good on @watersider for doin that @Glenn5150: nothin wrong with that at all.

When our club announces we are to make C.S.S. our home ground in the near future, I'll be doin that as well :smile: :laughing: :smiley:

Have a Happy Christmas Glenn :christmas_tree: :steam_locomotive: :mother_christmas: :bank: :tiger: :latin_cross:

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Can we close this thread ? He’s gone now , and the constant whinging about what we got in return is a waste of time . The return should be obvious . A couple of Mil freed up , and what appears to be , a huge morale killer removed
From the team . The club hasn’t stuffed up , it’s not pandering to say so , and leave your agendas at the door .
If I see another passive aggressive post about how 💩 Pascoe is , or Moving the tiger to CSS ,emoji emoji , Or whatever knife you want to drive in to whatever beef you seem to have , I think I’m gonna puke .
This is now just drivel !

 

[Guest]

Make a stand for what, he didn’t want to be here and by all reports the players didn’t want him here after his tantrum either, what benefit did we have in keeping him?

The real benefit we had was in releasing him to give us the opportunity of getting a quality player that wants to play for the club.

Releasing Matterson doesn't enable or inhibit the signing of new players. Going by the reports it means we have 1.7 million to spend now rather than 1.3 million. If we're looking to spend all of our salary cap in the next week I'd suggest we be a little more measured in our approach to recruitment.

Trust me, the club has planned this one out well.

 

[The_P_man]

@willow very happy to hear that, and I'm more than happy to be patient and see what happens. There must be heaps going on behind the scenes that we simply aren't privy to. And I don't want the club to leak like a sieve anyway.

 

[happy_tiger]

Make a stand for what, he didn’t want to be here and by all reports the players didn’t want him here after his tantrum either, what benefit did we have in keeping him?

The real benefit we had was in releasing him to give us the opportunity of getting a quality player that wants to play for the club.

Releasing Matterson doesn't enable or inhibit the signing of new players. Going by the reports it means we have 1.7 million to spend now rather than 1.3 million. If we're looking to spend all of our salary cap in the next week I'd suggest we be a little more measured in our approach to recruitment.

Trust me, the club has planned this one out well.

Only time will tell ........history tells me though we haven't got much right

 

[Guest]

Make a stand for what, he didn’t want to be here and by all reports the players didn’t want him here after his tantrum either, what benefit did we have in keeping him?

The real benefit we had was in releasing him to give us the opportunity of getting a quality player that wants to play for the club.

Releasing Matterson doesn't enable or inhibit the signing of new players. Going by the reports it means we have 1.7 million to spend now rather than 1.3 million. If we're looking to spend all of our salary cap in the next week I'd suggest we be a little more measured in our approach to recruitment.

Trust me, the club has planned this one out well.

Only time will tell ........history tells me though we haven't got much right

Things are changing under Madge - he's no fool.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Make a stand for what, he didn’t want to be here and by all reports the players didn’t want him here after his tantrum either, what benefit did we have in keeping him?

The real benefit we had was in releasing him to give us the opportunity of getting a quality player that wants to play for the club.

Releasing Matterson doesn't enable or inhibit the signing of new players. Going by the reports it means we have 1.7 million to spend now rather than 1.3 million. If we're looking to spend all of our salary cap in the next week I'd suggest we be a little more measured in our approach to recruitment.

Trust me, the club has planned this one out well.

Only time will tell ........history tells me though we haven't got much right

The Cleary saga?

 

[Madge]

@willow gee Willow I hope you are right!

 

[Guest]

@willow gee Willow I hope you are right!

Mate I'm definitely not fretting over this, absolutely no need to.

 

[Madge]

@willow Fills me with confidence mate! appreciate it!

 

[BZN]

Phew!!! thank you @rustycage for agreeing with 1% ie your "one half of one sentence" of my post.

I was actually thinking along the lines of 100% of our forumers being 100% in disagreement with this particular post.

So thanks once again Rusty and I wish you a Very Happy Christmas :man_dancing: :tada: :tiger: :santa: :notes: :christmas_tree:

 

[gallagher]

Can we close this thread ? He’s gone now , and the constant whinging about what we got in return is a waste of time . The return should be obvious . A couple of Mil freed up , and what appears to be , a huge morale killer removed
From the team . The club hasn’t stuffed up , it’s not pandering to say so , and leave your agendas at the door .
If I see another passive aggressive post about how 💩 Pascoe is , or Moving the tiger to CSS ,emoji emoji , Or whatever knife you want to drive in to whatever beef you seem to have , I think I’m gonna puke .
This is now just drivel !

Just click on the ignore button and the thread won't appear on your device. I use it all the time.

 

[BZN]

Please don't puke @Strongee as it usually makes a big mess :weary:

You are right about those damn passive-aggressive posts Strongee. If they weren't quite so passive or aggressive they would be just right.

Please have a Very Happy and Loving Christmas :angel: :tiger2: ::christmas_tree: :green_salad::golfer: :rage: