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@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482295) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482261) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482258) said:
@tigerlily said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482250) said:
Yes of course you can still get covid even if your vaccinated, the vaccine is not a cure it is a layer of protection, up to 95%….

95% is not 100%…. They’ve been telling us this since day one.

You can still get COVID even if your vaccinated, but the vaccine helps protect you from developing severe symptoms and it also reduces the risk of you spreading the virus.

‘They’ve’ been telling us?
I think ‘they’ve’ also recently acknowledged that viral loads in vaccinated positive cases are the same as in unvaccinated positive cases, meaning the vaccinated are as infectious as the unvaccinated.
I guess it’s just down to if your worried about being in the 0.1% of the population who are at risk of dying, then you should protect yourself.

So don't get jabbed. See on you December 1st.

Only if he's still alive.

U guys are hilarious
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482273) said:
The other consideration in that decision is obviously whether you are happy to participate in an experimental MRNA gene altering therapy being passed off as a vaccine, that hasn’t been passed through the standard safety and ethical clinical trial processes. Each to their own I guess.

OK I'll bite. I've done my research, so please explain how mRNA vaccines are "gene altering therapy" when we know that "mRNA never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA (genetic material) is kept."?
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482282) said:
You can do your own research. Or not

Mate, this thread has been through the wringer with research, lots of to's and fro's lots of ins and outs and what have you's.

Here is the definitive efficacy of the vaccines (Pfizer 88%, AZ 67%). Ive seen Moderna quoted at 94% but dont have it at my fingertips.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Here is the effectiveness against hospitalisation (Pfizer 96%, AZ 92%).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-hospitalisation-from-delta-variant

This thread has generally been conducted with good faith discussion. If you have a different opinion, happy days. Put up your research and we can discuss it. Dont come here with clear accusations and implications and then follow it up with vague replies. Put up or be ignored.
 
G’day Mike sorry to leave you hangin mate long drive home, I’m certainly no professional in this field and therefore not going to do your question justice personally, but I have also done much research and I think this link will be informative to your question.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-inventor-of-mrna-vaccine-technology-dr-robert-malone_W2J5TQehvsfRCMo.html
 
@pascoes_barber said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482283) said:
![b2d944f7-e451-4dd5-8f02-d60877183316-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1632810283162-b2d944f7-e451-4dd5-8f02-d60877183316-image.png)

https://www.nathanrabin.com/happy-place/2020/12/9/sealioning-what-it-is-why-its-obnoxious-and-what-you-can-do-about-it

Who exactly are you accusing of sealioning?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482357) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482282) said:
You can do your own research. Or not

Mate, this thread has been through the wringer with research, lots of to's and fro's lots of ins and outs and what have you's.

Here is the definitive efficacy of the vaccines (Pfizer 88%, AZ 67%). Ive seen Moderna quoted at 94% but dont have it at my fingertips.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Here is the effectiveness against hospitalisation (Pfizer 96%, AZ 92%).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-hospitalisation-from-delta-variant

This thread has generally been conducted with good faith discussion. If you have a different opinion, happy days. Put up your research and we can discuss it. Dont come here with clear accusations and implications and then follow it up with vague replies. Put up or be ignored.

Relax mate, in my experience you can find statistics to support every opinion, I’m just asking questions.
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482365) said:
G’day Mike sorry to leave you hangin mate long drive home, I’m certainly no professional in this field and therefore not going to do your question justice personally, but I have also done much research and I think this link will be informative to your question.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-inventor-of-mrna-vaccine-technology-dr-robert-malone_W2J5TQehvsfRCMo.html

I have a lot of time for Bret Weinstein, less time for Robert Malone since he claims to have invented mRNA Vaccine technology and zero respect for Steve Kirsch who is a snake oil salesman.

Interesting to note that Malone and Kirsch are both fully vaxxed.

Regardless, what is the point you are making here? Big pharma suppressing Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)? Lethality of spike proteins? You say you are just asking questions, I dont see it. You are just posting videos.

I can do this as well. Here is a very good video of Yuri Deigin systematically tearing apart the claims of Weinstein, Malone & Kirsch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzfnZfo-rU
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482373) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482357) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482282) said:
You can do your own research. Or not

Mate, this thread has been through the wringer with research, lots of to's and fro's lots of ins and outs and what have you's.

Here is the definitive efficacy of the vaccines (Pfizer 88%, AZ 67%). Ive seen Moderna quoted at 94% but dont have it at my fingertips.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Here is the effectiveness against hospitalisation (Pfizer 96%, AZ 92%).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-hospitalisation-from-delta-variant

This thread has generally been conducted with good faith discussion. If you have a different opinion, happy days. Put up your research and we can discuss it. Dont come here with clear accusations and implications and then follow it up with vague replies. Put up or be ignored.

Relax mate, in my experience you can find statistics to support every opinion, I’m just asking questions.

Not sure you actually inderstand how "statistics" work.

Yes you can find a youtube video to support any point of view. Peer reviewed scientific journals that invite critique by trained scientists are kind of different.
 
So a mortality rate statistic that includes deaths of chronically ill people who died with multiple co morbidities as a Covid death because they tested positive is unquestionable?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482254) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482187) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482184) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482178) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482165) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482164) said:
Plenty pal, it ain’t hard. Maybe take a look at places like Israel are doing. Don’t be scared.

I have, what did you find when you took a look at Israel?

Mass outbreak, hospitalisations and deaths in a 90% vaccinated population?

Any reasons why that might happen?

![f7746802-709d-4e0e-b640-9349d58849ab-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1632798156500-f7746802-709d-4e0e-b640-9349d58849ab-image.png)

I don't believe it's anywhere near as bad as that comment states.

What does that graph represent? What are both axis?

Could be the number of people accessing Czech Republic based porn sites.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482277) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482273) said:
The other consideration in that decision is obviously whether you are happy to participate in an experimental MRNA ***gene altering*** therapy being passed off as a vaccine, that hasn’t been passed through the standard safety and ethical clinical trial processes. Each to their own I guess.

Please expand on this. You are the one claiming to have done your research. Please explain how the mRNA vaccine alters the recepients genes.

He's playing ignorant - merely trying to get a response out of people.
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482373) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482357) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482282) said:
You can do your own research. Or not

Mate, this thread has been through the wringer with research, lots of to's and fro's lots of ins and outs and what have you's.

Here is the definitive efficacy of the vaccines (Pfizer 88%, AZ 67%). Ive seen Moderna quoted at 94% but dont have it at my fingertips.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Here is the effectiveness against hospitalisation (Pfizer 96%, AZ 92%).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-hospitalisation-from-delta-variant

This thread has generally been conducted with good faith discussion. If you have a different opinion, happy days. Put up your research and we can discuss it. Dont come here with clear accusations and implications and then follow it up with vague replies. Put up or be ignored.

Relax mate, in my experience you can find statistics to support every opinion, I’m just asking questions.

No you're not - you're trolling so cut it out.
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482393) said:
So a mortality rate statistic that includes deaths of chronically ill people who died with multiple co morbidities as a Covid death because they tested positive is unquestionable?

First of all...who are you talking to and what are you replying to?


Secondly, the 1-1.4% mortality rate comes from Aus & NSW Department of Health death records as a percentage of overall cases. Im not able to dig down deeper to prove that they didnt have other co-morbidities but if they die of COVID, why would it matter?

Where do you get your figures from that 90% of COVID deaths were actually caused by something else?
 
@gnr4life said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482408) said:
Whenever someone joins and goes straight to a politics thread, or in this case a Covid thread, that’s a red flag.

100% been here before.
 
I interrupt this evenings trolling with a side issue. I have consultancy Contracts with NSW Health. I just received a letter from them saying that unless myself and all my staff vaxxed, we can no longer provide our services from 30/09/2021 and our Contracts will be terminated.

Not a problem for me or my staff but thought it would be interesting to some.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482419) said:
I interrupt this evenings trolling with a side issue. I have consultancy Contracts with NSW Health. I just received a letter from them saying that unless myself and all my staff vaxxed, we can no longer provide our services from 30/09/2021 and our Contracts will be terminated.

Not a problem for me or my staff but thought it would be interesting to some.

Is that the 1st notification mate?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482423) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1482419) said:
I interrupt this evenings trolling with a side issue. I have consultancy Contracts with NSW Health. I just received a letter from them saying that unless myself and all my staff vaxxed, we can no longer provide our services from 30/09/2021 and our Contracts will be terminated.

Not a problem for me or my staff but thought it would be interesting to some.

Is that the 1st notification mate?

First I've seen it. Was dated 27/09/2021. Its not a problem for me, my staff and I are (or will be) fully vaxxed. Im also not a health worker.
 
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